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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTHREAD: Money laundering is simple and not, necessarily, a sophisticated crime.
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Money laundering is simple and not, necessarily, a sophisticated crime.
It is, at base, story telling. Someone has a ton of dough they can't spend without raising questions. It's from drug money or corruption or whatever.
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Money laundering is simple and not, necessarily, a sophisticated crime.
It is, at base, story telling. Someone has a ton of dough they can't spend without raising questions. It's from drug money or corruption or whatever.
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Money laundering is simple and not, necessarily, a sophisticated crime.
It is, at base, story telling. Someone has a ton of dough they can't spend without raising questions. It's from drug money or corruption or whatever.
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Ozark and Breaking Bad explain all this well.
The person with the money arranges with someone to set up a sham business that can appear legitimate.
Typically, the business should be one that has imprecise value.
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Real estate, fine wine, art, etc, are great. You can justify whatever values you want.
New real estate development is especially good: tons of money flowing all over the world--for materials, designers, etc.
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The front business, itself, doesn't need to make money. In fact, one typically loses 20% or so in the laundering process.
In some cases, it's better if it loses money. A huge bet on a new, unproven development has unclear value.
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While an established, stable, profitable business has clear value.
So, a money launderer would love a famous brand, willing to make enormous claims about future growth to justify senseless spending.
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The truly rich oligarchs do all this through major banks, law firms, proper real estate companies. (Which is a big problem).
The bottom-of-the-barrel oligarchs are too obvious for those folks. They need a desperate, broke brand that will do their bidding.
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The way it would work is:
Oligarch transfers money to an account held by an LLC. That money flows through several LLCs and is then used to purchase a property.
There is a hidden contract laying out who really owns the thing and public docs claiming Trump does.
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I saw this in the Baku deal: a public signatory and a side-letter explaining that the public signatory was not the true owner.
The money flow could operate on different time lines and scales.
A huge amount could be simply held, in property, for decades.
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But there would be many ways to move funds all year round. The restaurants and bars could move cash. The big redevelopment projects could move far more.
Look at the deals Manafort had with his tailor and house builder. They were crude and simple but, apparently, effective.
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For 15 years, the Trump Org has claimed its Scottish properties will be worth billions--they have built and moved and rebuilt several courses, ball rooms, sleeping areas, etc.
A massive outlay of funds for business that have never ever made a dollar.
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Or a pound.
This was designed for minimal scrutiny. Which makes sense--nobody cared what Trump was doing in Scotland in 2011.
It requires subpoena power to prove.
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It is, at base, story telling. Someone has a ton of dough they can't spend without raising questions. It's from drug money or corruption or whatever.
1/
Ozark and Breaking Bad explain all this well.
The person with the money arranges with someone to set up a sham business that can appear legitimate.
Typically, the business should be one that has imprecise value.
2/
Real estate, fine wine, art, etc, are great. You can justify whatever values you want.
New real estate development is especially good: tons of money flowing all over the world--for materials, designers, etc.
3/
The front business, itself, doesn't need to make money. In fact, one typically loses 20% or so in the laundering process.
In some cases, it's better if it loses money. A huge bet on a new, unproven development has unclear value.
4/
While an established, stable, profitable business has clear value.
So, a money launderer would love a famous brand, willing to make enormous claims about future growth to justify senseless spending.
5/
The truly rich oligarchs do all this through major banks, law firms, proper real estate companies. (Which is a big problem).
The bottom-of-the-barrel oligarchs are too obvious for those folks. They need a desperate, broke brand that will do their bidding.
6/
The way it would work is:
Oligarch transfers money to an account held by an LLC. That money flows through several LLCs and is then used to purchase a property.
There is a hidden contract laying out who really owns the thing and public docs claiming Trump does.
7/
I saw this in the Baku deal: a public signatory and a side-letter explaining that the public signatory was not the true owner.
The money flow could operate on different time lines and scales.
A huge amount could be simply held, in property, for decades.
8/
But there would be many ways to move funds all year round. The restaurants and bars could move cash. The big redevelopment projects could move far more.
Look at the deals Manafort had with his tailor and house builder. They were crude and simple but, apparently, effective.
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For 15 years, the Trump Org has claimed its Scottish properties will be worth billions--they have built and moved and rebuilt several courses, ball rooms, sleeping areas, etc.
A massive outlay of funds for business that have never ever made a dollar.
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Or a pound.
This was designed for minimal scrutiny. Which makes sense--nobody cared what Trump was doing in Scotland in 2011.
It requires subpoena power to prove.
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THREAD: Money laundering is simple and not, necessarily, a sophisticated crime. (Original Post)
Roland99
Sep 2020
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The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)1. Exactly, Sir
Not complex to do, though complicated to trace.
Walleye
(31,017 posts)2. Answers the question, how do you go bankrupt running a casino?
Roland99
(53,342 posts)3. Guess he married Melanie for HER money!
AZ8theist
(5,459 posts)6. Something I've wondered for years....
A casino is basically a license to print money.
But somehow Doturd found a way to screw that up. BRILLIANT BUSINESSMAN!!!!!
I still can't believe the rubes fell for that...
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)4. Now will the Scottish government...
... get to serve an Unexplained Wealth Order on Trump? Seize the Trump Organizations Scottish properties unless they can explain where the money came from?
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)5. Thought It Was More Like Profit Skimming
Nt
tinrobot
(10,895 posts)7. It can be that as well.
But the other methods also work.