Prediction: Netanyahu will attack Iran BEFORE Nov. 6

[M_M]

(This post is re Israel, Iran and the US. It has nothing to do with Palestine or the Palistinian people.)

It's not exactly a secret that the Prime Minister wants Romney to win, and I'm sure he grows more anxious with every poll, every screwup, every self-inflicted wound on his old buddy Mitt.

Will striking Iran reverse the course of the election? Maybe. Or maybe not. But, with Romney's chances dwindling by the day, I'm willing to wager that Bibi's gonna roll the dice and hope for the "best."

What say you?

[Nye Bevan]

1. He won't. And that wouldn't help Romney anyway.

The more dangerous the world seems, the less people will want a President with zero foreign policy experience who needs to be trained up on the job.

[Matariki]

29. I'm with you. People almost always vote for the incumbent during a war.

[Arctic Dave]

2. I think NuttyYahoo is wishful thinking we would come to his rescue.

The entire world would refuse to answer his phone call if he did that.

Plus, he would have his own people wanting hang him in the town square.

[Selatius]

19. There is a good chance the United States will enter such a war on behalf of Israel.

Iran is very probably going to think that such an attack against itself was done with US knowledge if not actual tacit or covert support to Israel. The very warplanes in Israel's possession that have the range to reach Israel are American-made F-15s.

Even if the United States had no role in initiating the war, Iran would still likely conclude, wrong or not, that the United States played some role and would begin hitting American bases in the Persian Gulf with either saboteurs or cruise missiles fired from mainland Iran.

That would essentially be an act of war against the United States. Our government will not simply stand idle against such an act of aggression. Our government will respond if attacked.

We haven't even begun to take grasp of the full scope of how big such a confrontation would get if things got really bad. Syria is linked to Iran in a mutual defense pact. Any war with Iran would likely pull in Syria, and if Syria gets pulled in, so will Lebanon. Hezbollah could easily open a northern front with Israel by firing rockets on Israel from southern Lebanon and provoking an Israeli defense force response.

Turkey would get involved if Syria starts losing control of its northern frontier. The idea of Kurds in that region declaring independence from the control of Damascus is one Turkey will not tolerate at all. The Turks already have a hard enough time crushing domestic Kurd opposition without other Kurds successfully achieving an example of independence that they'd emulate.

[freethought]

59. I would put my money on the bet he wouldn't

Bibi is just another neocon, an armchair general. Just like Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bolton who promoted the Iraq debacle. I have no doubt he wants to attack Iran, but I tend to doubt he'll do it without U.S. forces watching his back.
I would hope that if Obama gets a second term he will deal with Israel more forcefully. Yes, Israel is an ally, but to my eyes they seem to be a dubious ally to say the least. I DO NOT believe the U.S. should be bending to Israel's every whim.

I wish I had more info on what the average Israeli citizen thinks, but I don't tend to hear or read much about it.

[Junkdrawer]

3. False flag attack isn't out of the question either...

Netanyahu is a desperate man and he'll need more that his word alone to set the war machine into motion.

[nanabugg]

15. And they don't care who they harm or kill with the false flag operation. nt

[Junkdrawer]

18. Sept. 4th....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1415352

[Behind the Aegis]

39. Aug 31st....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=214867

[Junkdrawer]

45. And it looks like Bibi was pushing hard for a timeline like that....

"Several cabinet members were questioning the wisdom of defying the United States, Israel’s ally and protector, by weighing a strike on Iran before the American election in November."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/09/23/bibi-in-a-box-netanyahu-loses-support-on-bombing-iran.html

What a guy.

[Hutzpa]

23. True

the level of desperation he is showing, I wont put it pass him, the killing of the AMB Stevens comes to mind.

I just hope this time all that money that is being funneled to the intelligence community by tax payers is being
utilized appropriately.

[peacebird]

4. Wow. 106 posts in under two weeks?

[M_M]

16. Yes

Is that a rules violation?

[peacebird]

24. No, just something to note when there are concern posts such as this

[M_M]

25. "Concern posts"?

I post alot because I like the site.

[peacebird]

26. Posting your prediction that N will Bomb Iran, well, concern noted...

...

[M_M]

40. Ah, now I get it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021415604

I'm not one of those.

[Robeysays]

32. welcome to DU!!!!! (don't let this chump bother you... there is a convenient ignore button)

[kentuck]

5. He won't...

If he doesn't know the US is standing behind him.

[Earth_First]

6. Source...? Infowars?

Please.

Don't give Alex the press.

[PCIntern]

7. ...and we all know how accurate DU predictions have always been

vis-a-vis Israel.

[Behind the Aegis]

38. Yup! Sadly predictable.

One person in this thread has already predicted that Israel attacked Iran. It took place between the conventions. You remember that horrible attack, right?! Oh wait...

Any excuse. I swear I think some do this shit for very obvious reasons and others because it is like playing the lottery, and they hope they win someday, but you can't win if you don't play!

[onenote]

55. Ain't that the truth! I get misty eyed thinking back to all those

predictions that Chimpy would invade Iran before the November 2008 election -- I had more hair back then.

[Panasonic]

8. I know that some Israeli officials including Ehud Barak

does not support Nutty Yahoo's positions on Iran.

The coalition will collapse before Nutty Yahoo will have that chance and forced to call in an election.

[MidwestTransplant]

9. The professional military class and intelligence establishment in Israel would revolt.

So my money is on no.

[SDjack]

10. Maybe Pres. Obama checked Netie by promising him no military help

if Israel attacks before the US general election. From the tone of the president's speech to the UN, I think there may be an attack by Israel and backed by the US on Nov 7th, regardless of who wins the election the day before. There's a lot secret posturing that we have no way of seeing.

[davidpdx]

47. I think that maybe it, but I doubt it was contingent on when the election was

Obama doesn't play that game. Israel is heavily dependent on the US for military aid and if we held back that aid they would be screwed.

On the secret posturing, yes I think that is going on. We have bases all over the place in the ME. I once applied for a position in UAE and was talking to someone who lived there (this wasn't Dubai or AD, but another city on the coast). The person was an American and said there was a base there.

[GusFring]

11. Israel doesnt want to go in alone. They want the US to do it for them. nt

[Proud Liberal Dem]

12. Wouldn't put it past him

though I'm not exactly sure what it would accomplish for Romney. Force President Obama into a position of either endorsing/denouncing the attack? Making Romney appear "stronger" by immediately endorsing the strike?

[DonViejo]

13. I posted an article on this topic earlier today.

Bibi in a Box: Netanyahu Loses Support on Bombing Iran


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021411382

[DavidDvorkin]

14. That would ensure an Obama landslide.

[MadrasT]

17. I am inclined to agree. n/t

[Selatius]

20. And a return to the Great Recession that nobody wants.

The Persian Gulf would become a battlezone, and that'll send crude oil prices to economically crippling levels once investors and speculators are hit with fear.

[malaise]

21. Won't happen - most Israelis are more loyal to the US than to Bibi

They'd destroy him and kick him out of office first

[Hutzpa]

22. Netanyahu is desperate for a puppet

in the White House, someone that can serve his purpose without any boundaries.

He wants to go to war so bad that he is willing to risk his position in Israel by
meddling in our politics. Any other country's leader that is showing their hand
as he has done will have been vilified by the media, there should be an outrage
for what should be seen as an interference by an outside leader.

[Stinky The Clown]

27. There is a better chance that pigs will gain the gift of flight

[Drunken Irishman]

28. Not gonna happen.

[KurtNYC]

30. It would not help Romney as people tend to rally to an encumbent in war

In the 47% tape Romney mentions that his campaign is using people who worked with Netanyahu. That's about as much as I can see between them.

Israel doesn't do long wars. Wars don't help the challenger and I don't see what Romney could offer Net&Yahoo that would be worth starting a war for so I'm a big "No"

[madrchsod]

31. he won`t attack

[bluestate10]

33. If Bibi does, he seals his political doom.

People in the USA and other places make the mistake that all Israelis walk lockstep with their Prime Minister, they don't.

[longship]

34. Please PM me when I should light my hair on fire and start running around.

President Obama played his hand flawlessly these past weeks. Bibi is seeing opposition from his own coalition. We also happen to have a Cracker Jack Secretary of State -- maybe the best in many decades -- Hillary Clinton. It is sad that the USA will lose her at the end of the term. I have no idea who could replace her. It will be a huge loss for our country.

Keep the faith, my friend. Bibi isn't going to do anything rash.

[Canuckistanian]

35. No

This subject was discussed at a cabinet meeting in Israel. They went at it for hours.

The majority consensus was that it was a bad idea to attack during an American presidential campaign.

[gopiscrap]

36. Obama needs to cutt Isreal off after the election!

[gopiscrap]

37. M M welcome to DU

[M_M]

41. Thanks

[aquart]

42. Talking about attack is politically helpful, doing it is not.

But Bibi does get mileage from the shrieking hysteria. As does Ahmadinejad.

Personally, I think they're doing it to cover up their affair.

[Indpndnt]

44. **snort!**

Now how am I going to get that image out of my brain?

[Indpndnt]

43. No Obama voter would switch to Willard over anything to do with foreign policy or the military.

He's a joke. He even blew a sure gimme of a welcome in London.

[renie408]

46. Which would hand the election to Obama.

I think if pretty much ANYTHING tragic or big happens between now and the election, Obama wins handily. He is better liked and trusted than Mittens by the majority of people. In the face of fear, people are not going to vote for a waffler, which Mitt is. They are going to go with a known quantity, even if they wouldn't have otherwise. Particularly if it is a foreign affairs thing as Mitt has little or no cred in that department.

[agentS]

48. I don't give it good odds

I figured the Israelis would have attacked already, even back in January when things were more tense than now.
So, even with Aldeson's corrupt newspaper backing, I don't think Bibi has the mojo for a strike at this time.

The ball for this game is still in Iran's court at the moment. They got to drop the ball in a big way for the US to change its mind.

[Prometheus Bound]

49. No, he's afraid to do it on his own.

And I'm even offering here to buy his parachute.

[BumRushDaShow]

50. I doubt he has the IFF code

which would be required to even reach a target.

[leveymg]

51. He won't do anything we don't let him. Iran sees Israel as an extension of the US, and will respond

accordingly.

[Junkdrawer]

52. $64 Question: How much shit can he stir WITHOUT US permission?

See:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1415352

[BumRushDaShow]

53. The one problem missing from these articles is

that Bibi is only there because Kadima decided to side with Likud (causing Labor alot of heartburn) in order to form the current government because Kadima's Livni just couldn't handle the job. But this was under the condition that Bibi dialed back some of the war rhetoric. And since that happened, he has actually been sitting on his hands much to my shock. But I knew it was only a matter of time when he couldn't take it anymore.

The issue might be what happens to Kadima next and whether they choose to reincorporate back into Likud or try to maintain the centrist leanings that Sharon attempted to craft.

[leveymg]

54. What was the significance of the Sept. 4 IFD "go it alone" deadline?

How did that date supposedly set a "red line"?

[Junkdrawer]

57. All I'm saying is that the same day Bibi is told he CAN'T have Israel attack without US help....

is the day that Morris Sadek posts his infamous "Innocence of Muslims" Arabic redub.

[ellenfl]

56. not gonna happen. too much collateral damage.

it's just posturing, imo.

ellen fl

[ecstatic]

58. If anything, that would make Pres. Obama get re-elected in

a landslide. Because we'd probably be pulled into another war. Personally, I think a stunt like that should remove them from our allies list.