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Javaman

(65,711 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:35 PM Sep 2020

My SIL scared the shit out of me the other night

On FaceTime, We all (me, my gf, gf’s brother and sil)were taking about how much we all hate the oranges asshole.

Then my SIL brought up something that stopped me in my tracks.

A little background, not too long ago, about 6 years ago, my SIL worked for the DOD. Nothing major just a paper pusher. Anyway she says to everyone, “you are all forgetting something, the orange asshole is privy to national secrets, what keeps him from telling putin everything he knows after he loses the election?”

A very cold chill ran down my spine.

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My SIL scared the shit out of me the other night (Original Post) Javaman Sep 2020 OP
how do you know he hasn't already done that? Kali Sep 2020 #1
Precisely Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #4
FYI Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #28
Why are you flooding DU with this video? Ptah Sep 2020 #36
Spot on. cwydro Sep 2020 #17
What's stopping him now? TreasonousBastard Sep 2020 #2
He will sell whatever info he has tosave his skin SoonerPride Sep 2020 #3
Or releasing hundreds of RW prisoners grantcart Sep 2020 #5
Putin most likely knows all the stuff now. beachbumbob Sep 2020 #6
Exactly the point made by Frank Figliuzzi on MSNBC last night.... Sogo Sep 2020 #7
Clearly treason. BComplex Sep 2020 #13
While it is the convention to keep former presidents informed is it required? csziggy Sep 2020 #16
Trump has broken every norm of government behavior. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #32
Yes - I agree. Dolt45 and his family and cohorts cannot be trusted at all csziggy Sep 2020 #34
He belongs in Gitmo, but he needs a very cold Gitmo. WyattKansas Sep 2020 #25
Just saying, there are severe penalties for that. C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #8
What's to stop him telling Putin all national secrets before the election? LisaL Sep 2020 #9
I would assume tRump would be holding that information as a bargaining chip StarryNite Sep 2020 #10
He and his family have been an IMMENSE Golden Raisin Sep 2020 #11
At least when he does it AFTER it becomes criminal and prosecutable. RockRaven Sep 2020 #12
Yes. That's why government officials who are 420 million in debt marybourg Sep 2020 #14
He would have to LEARN what those secrets are. maxsolomon Sep 2020 #15
After? He has probably already shared it. MineralMan Sep 2020 #18
4 things: fleur-de-lisa Sep 2020 #19
Yes to all 4 points FakeNoose Sep 2020 #27
Do we really think the "deep state" as Trump calls it, told him anything really important? Boogiemack Sep 2020 #20
Fortunately he has shunned his intel reports since day one. denbot Sep 2020 #21
He's been handing them over all along Bayard Sep 2020 #22
There is NO reason to think he hasn't already. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #23
I've always assumed that was a given - Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #24
Actually he doesn't know all that much, remember he doesn't pay attention, is prone to lying lettucebe Sep 2020 #26
With affliction(s) Nictuku Sep 2020 #29
wrong question...what stopped him from sharing everything already? nt Fresh_Start Sep 2020 #30
it will be as garbled as everything else he says Warpy Sep 2020 #31
He already has. tavernier Sep 2020 #33
I heard that mentioned as a concern on Morning Joe today. Fla Dem Sep 2020 #35
Whoa PatSeg Sep 2020 #37

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. Precisely
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:38 PM
Sep 2020

The whole thing will need a top to bottom review after the change in management in January.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
5. Or releasing hundreds of RW prisoners
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:38 PM
Sep 2020

Or firing thousands of our top level bureaucrats.


The answer is nothing


He will do all of those things to try and negotiate a no prosecution deal

Sogo

(7,191 posts)
7. Exactly the point made by Frank Figliuzzi on MSNBC last night....
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:41 PM
Sep 2020

The counter intelligence threat continues even with him out of office....

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
16. While it is the convention to keep former presidents informed is it required?
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:57 PM
Sep 2020

Can a former president and his former staff have their clearances removed if national security could be compromised?

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
32. Trump has broken every norm of government behavior.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:29 PM
Sep 2020

Biden needs to break this one and insist that no future intelligence be provided to Trump. I believe the intelligence agencies would back him.

Trump—and Jared—will sell every government secret they know in return for money.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
34. Yes - I agree. Dolt45 and his family and cohorts cannot be trusted at all
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:33 PM
Sep 2020

Even the people in his administration, current and former, should be thoroughly investigated BEFORE they can continue to hold their security clearances. There are far too many questions about how this mal-administration has handled government secrets to allow continued access.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
25. He belongs in Gitmo, but he needs a very cold Gitmo.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:09 PM
Sep 2020

Strict communications black out for him, except for very limited in-person arranged visits.

Hell, everyone who was with him in the White House and/or associated with him need to be there as well in isolation, until the previous NSA officials can be sure that they are not a risk of exposing any secrets or information.

In other words, crawl up all their asses with a microscope and keep a permanent grip on tRUMP and his spawn.

C_U_L8R

(49,384 posts)
8. Just saying, there are severe penalties for that.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:41 PM
Sep 2020

Like the most severe. But Trump could be that stupid and corrupt. Does he feel lucky?

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
9. What's to stop him telling Putin all national secrets before the election?
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:42 PM
Sep 2020

Who is to say he hasn't done it already?

StarryNite

(12,116 posts)
10. I would assume tRump would be holding that information as a bargaining chip
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:43 PM
Sep 2020

in exchange for money. He will sell America out completely once he loses his power as president.

Golden Raisin

(4,755 posts)
11. He and his family have been an IMMENSE
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:43 PM
Sep 2020

and terrifying Security Risk since Day 1. Republicans never seemed to have had any problem with that! The family is totally without ethics or honor and are now becoming desperate/cornered. They will sell what they have been privy to for the last 4 years to the highest bidder. If they already haven't done so.

RockRaven

(19,373 posts)
12. At least when he does it AFTER it becomes criminal and prosecutable.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:53 PM
Sep 2020

Once he's no longer POTUS he loses the ability to declassify in real time.

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
14. Yes. That's why government officials who are 420 million in debt
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:56 PM
Sep 2020

are generally not given security clearance. What should happen, but won’t, is that the next president should declare him a national security risk and lift his passport and monitor all his communications.

maxsolomon

(38,727 posts)
15. He would have to LEARN what those secrets are.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:56 PM
Sep 2020

Which would mean READING them, or LISTENING to someone tell him what they are.

Then he'd have to WRITE THEM DOWN (in sharpie) or REMEMBER them.

Then he'd have to STOP TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF long enough to tell them to Rusher.

I'm not that concerned.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,704 posts)
19. 4 things:
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:59 PM
Sep 2020

1 - Dump has a problem with attention span, so he doesn't absorb a lot.

2 - He can't understand complex issues because he's pretty dense.

3 - I don't believe the intelligence community gives Dump a whole lot of sensitive data . . . they know who he is and who he serves.

4 - Anything he does know about, he already spilled to Putin.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
27. Yes to all 4 points
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:25 PM
Sep 2020

Thanks Fleur-de-lisa!

I came on here to say the same. You just saved me the trouble, and you did a nice job.

Chump's already given Putin everything he asked for. The rest is forgotten, or else never learned.



 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
20. Do we really think the "deep state" as Trump calls it, told him anything really important?
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

Damn, I hope not.

When Biden wins the intel community will be kept busy changing and recoding everything important. But everyone will know about whom they are speaking when they use the code name "Orange man."

denbot

(9,950 posts)
21. Fortunately he has shunned his intel reports since day one.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

He has the focus of a goldfish, and unless he’s transmitting documents, he couldn’t accurately repeat a three word sentence let alone a technical advantage.

I would be utterly shocked if he’s not fed dumbed down if not false intel with the long ago assumption that he will pass what ever he gets his hands on to the highest bidder.

Bayard

(29,693 posts)
22. He's been handing them over all along
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

His many phone calls and private meetings with Putin is to get petted on the head, and told--Good Boy.

lettucebe

(2,355 posts)
26. Actually he doesn't know all that much, remember he doesn't pay attention, is prone to lying
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:19 PM
Sep 2020

and pretty much is bored out of his mind most of the time. Anything he tries to tell Putin or anyone else will be suspect.

I thought about this myself but after a sleep on it, it's not going to be a real problem. They really ought to start telling him some whoppers just to nail his ass later when other countries start using those planted lies against us. Should be fun.

Nictuku

(4,658 posts)
29. With affliction(s)
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:51 PM
Sep 2020

Short attention span, narcissist behavior, inability to read.... I doubt he will remember or get the details correct (unless there was a drawing)

I don't doubt for a minute he would do it if there was $$ in it for himself.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
31. it will be as garbled as everything else he says
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:28 PM
Sep 2020

He understands talking money out of men who should know better. He understands about money laundering through real estate.

He thinks he knows everything about everything else because that's what simpletons do.

I am not particularly concerned because it will take many years to try to untangle the rubbish from any accurate information, and by then it will all be obsolete.

Fla Dem

(27,633 posts)
35. I heard that mentioned as a concern on Morning Joe today.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:34 PM
Sep 2020

The only safe place for the USA for this crook to be is in a Federal Penitentiary.

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