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Have you seen the latest polls today? (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Sep 2020 OP
Five-thirty eight latest has safeinOhio Sep 2020 #1
That's nice but national polls don't mean much ... I wish they did (nt) mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #2
When the gap is big they do Silent3 Sep 2020 #3
At this point, they DO mean something. Happy Hoosier Sep 2020 #6
Americans aren't stupid malaise Sep 2020 #4
Collins is 6.5 down from her challenger, Gideon. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2020 #7
I am sure she is deeply malaise Sep 2020 #8
7.1%, been steady for months. Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #5
Biden is also up by NINE in two good PA polls Eid Ma Clack Shaw Sep 2020 #9
That's about what Biden is gonna win by Polybius Sep 2020 #10
I have been cautious about national polls pretty much up to now. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #11
Like anything, they are just an indicator... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #12
Another thing to keep in mind that the Trump taxes story has PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #13
real Clear Politics site reports 7 days of polling dixiegrrrrl Sep 2020 #14
Yes. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #15

Silent3

(15,210 posts)
3. When the gap is big they do
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:07 PM
Sep 2020

The wider the national gap, the lower the odds of the crazy Electoral College system making a difference. I’d have to look it up again for the exact value, but the largest EC override of the popular vote has been 2-3%, with one exception of about 4% in the case of a weird 4-way race in the early 1800s, under a very different electoral system.

If the national vote differs by 7%, the odds of the EC overriding that are quite small.

Happy Hoosier

(7,306 posts)
6. At this point, they DO mean something.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:11 PM
Sep 2020

The state polls are NOT disconnected from national polls. A lead in the national polls doesn't mean Biden will win, but a lead this big makes it far more likely. In other words, there are very few scenarios where Biden can win the national vote by 7% and Trump wins enough states to secure the election win. Hillary won the national vote by 2.8%, and just BARELY lost the states that put Trump over the top in the EC. That kinda tells you where the ceiling is.



Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
9. Biden is also up by NINE in two good PA polls
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:33 PM
Sep 2020

I can only hope that the bad headlines for Trump haven’t finished and that there’s more to come - people have dreadfully short memories, but this stuff will chip away and it will sway some of the third party voters who are currently the difference in certain polls between a ten point Biden lead nationwide and a five or six point advantage.

Polybius

(15,400 posts)
10. That's about what Biden is gonna win by
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:36 PM
Sep 2020

We much come to accept that no matter what Trump does, Biden is not gonna win by 20 points. It's gonna be something like Trump 46, Biden 53, and third Parties at 1%.

With that being said, there are still many here who disagree, and that it's gonna be a 60-40 blowout.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
11. I have been cautious about national polls pretty much up to now.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:38 PM
Sep 2020

But this is incredibly consistent, from poll to poll.

Wounded Bear

(58,649 posts)
12. Like anything, they are just an indicator...
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:40 PM
Sep 2020

admittedly they are good indicators now. But the election is far from over.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
13. Another thing to keep in mind that the Trump taxes story has
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:50 PM
Sep 2020

only just broken, and I doubt much polling has taken place since then. Let's see what things look like in a few more days.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. real Clear Politics site reports 7 days of polling
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 09:51 PM
Sep 2020

the last ones were averaged out on the 28th.

This trainwreck of a debate tonight is gonna be interesting for the polls.
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