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WTAE in Pittsburgh just had Trump +3 (Original Post) DemsIn2020 Sep 2020 OP
Is that the "Pennsyltucky" area? dawg day Sep 2020 #1
Yep! MyOwnPeace Sep 2020 #5
Yes. Very much so. Blue_true Sep 2020 #17
Yes, interesting. elleng Sep 2020 #2
My local paper reports their train will make DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #10
Thanks. elleng Sep 2020 #12
They are starting in Ohio DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #13
RIGHT! elleng Sep 2020 #15
I'm in Westrn PA... Yeah...I can see the +3. progressive nobody Sep 2020 #3
Just from a "yard sign" survey........ (from western PA) MyOwnPeace Sep 2020 #4
I took a ride today throughout Westmoreland and I seen.. DemsIn2020 Sep 2020 #16
Yeah, I saw it too ebbie15644 Sep 2020 #6
Yup. If Trump is doing that badly there he's gonna get rocked statewide. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #7
It's Biden +30 on the Philly Main Line greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #8
I read somewhere last night that Biden has made significant gains in York/Lancaster/Harrisburg sweetloukillbot Sep 2020 #9
Also in western PA DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #11
The Ridge Endorsement is HUGE here in Western PA Tommymac Sep 2020 #19
Your title freaked me the f%#@ out. Ace Rothstein Sep 2020 #14
I find that hard to believe democrattotheend Sep 2020 #18
In comparison to 2016 there is a huge shrinkage of Don The Con signs out there. Tommymac Sep 2020 #20

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. Yes. Very much so.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 06:15 PM
Sep 2020

The people there have been hit hard by the decline in industrial America, their GrandMoms and GrandDads left high school and got job in factories located in nearby cities, and lived an idyllic middleclass lifestyle, complete with vacation travel and a pension when they retired. The reality today is vastly different and people in that region listen to Fox News and blame the wrong people for their troubles.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
2. Yes, interesting.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:12 PM
Sep 2020

I wonder where Joe and Jill will visit, after debate; Western PA said to be on their 'whistle-stop.'

DeminPennswoods

(17,337 posts)
13. They are starting in Ohio
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:59 PM
Sep 2020

after the debate.

https://www.timesonline.com/story/news/2020/09/29/biden-taking-train-trip-across-western-pa-after-debate-trump/3574166001/

From Cleveland, Biden and his wife Jill will head to Alliance, Ohio, before entering the Keystone State and making a stop in Pittsburgh.

Other train station stops include Greensburg and Latrobe with an event in New Alexandria, Westmoreland County, sandwiched between and a drive-in event in Johnstown Wednesday night.

No specific locations have been released by the campaign.

MyOwnPeace

(17,460 posts)
4. Just from a "yard sign" survey........ (from western PA)
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:15 PM
Sep 2020

I'm seeing a lot more Biden signs than I did Hillary signs. The same Trumpsters have their signs, flags, and American flags surrounding them (ironic, isn't it - flags to honor the one who put us at risk!).

Cliff notes:
More Biden signs
Not quite as many for Bunkerboy

GET OUT THE VOTE!!!!!

 

DemsIn2020

(81 posts)
16. I took a ride today throughout Westmoreland and I seen..
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 06:09 PM
Sep 2020

A ton more Biden signs.. In fact in some areas, Biden signs out number Trump signs by alot.

Pretty awesome.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
8. It's Biden +30 on the Philly Main Line
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:35 PM
Sep 2020

If Trump's at only +3 in ex-urb Pittsburgh, it's going to be a wipe-out for Biden in PA. Those Biden +9, +10 in PA starting to make sense.

sweetloukillbot

(12,744 posts)
9. I read somewhere last night that Biden has made significant gains in York/Lancaster/Harrisburg
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:41 PM
Sep 2020

And that those gains, combined with his strength in Philly and Pittsburgh pretty much signaled PA was pretty likely safe D.

DeminPennswoods

(17,337 posts)
11. Also in western PA
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:54 PM
Sep 2020

Not a surprising result. Outside of Allegheny county, the population is fairly homogeneous: older, white, blue collar.

Ex-gov Tom Ridge just came out and endorsed Biden, so that might carry some weight up around Erie especially. Ridge was a pretty popular R governor during his tenure.

Trump has never stopped running a lot of ads here, too, despite his campaign's financial circumstances. His surrogates have been running anti-Biden ads as well. He's visited here at least twice in the past few weeks. He's really making a push. Apparently it's not working that well. All that said, Biden's campaign has aired far more ads on local media, both radio and TV.

I have also noticed a fair number of Biden/Harris yard signs as opposed to few Clinton signs in 2016.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
19. The Ridge Endorsement is HUGE here in Western PA
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 07:15 PM
Sep 2020

He is 'family' to a lot of folks here in the Western PA Region.

And loyalty to family here means something.

This is going to resonate and I would not be surprised to see the Killer Clowns support drop at least a percent or two because of it.

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
18. I find that hard to believe
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 06:19 PM
Sep 2020

We visited friends in Western PA over Labor Day weekend and the Trump:Biden sign ratio I saw was probably 15:1, sadly. Granted, we didn't go into Pittsburgh proper. I'm sure it's a different story there.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
20. In comparison to 2016 there is a huge shrinkage of Don The Con signs out there.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 07:17 PM
Sep 2020

Still a lot, but nothing like 4 years ago.

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