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DemoTex

(25,407 posts)
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:12 PM Sep 2020

50 years ago today (9/30/1970) I arrived in Saigon for my 365-day tour of duty in Vietnam ..

It was 50 years ago today - September 30, 1970 - that I stepped off a military charter United Airlines DC-8-61 at Saigon's Tan Son Nhut Air Base, and began my year-long tour of duty as a US Army fixed-wing pilot in Vietnam.

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50 years ago today (9/30/1970) I arrived in Saigon for my 365-day tour of duty in Vietnam .. (Original Post) DemoTex Sep 2020 OP
K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2020 #1
THANK YOU! grumpyduck Sep 2020 #2
Incredible photo, thank you for sharing your story! Docreed2003 Sep 2020 #3
Thank you for your service, DemoTex. Niagara Sep 2020 #4
Nice photo MustLoveBeagles Sep 2020 #5
Great pic and I have always appreciated all of your stories that have been shared grantcart Sep 2020 #6
How do you think that day shaped the rest of your life? Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #7
Well done, Veteran! AwakeAtLast Sep 2020 #8
How terrifying that had to be! Greybnk48 Sep 2020 #9
Thank you for your service, man obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #10
I really like the artistic enhancement of that photo! lunatica Sep 2020 #11
So glad you made it home, DemoTex Hekate Sep 2020 #12
Please know that you're appreciated. Thank you! Harker Sep 2020 #13
Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2020 #14
Wow, congrats on the milestone and thank you for your service LymphocyteLover Sep 2020 #15
I'm sorry that you and thousands of others had to fight in that shitty war. Paladin Sep 2020 #16
You're our hero, DemoTex. Aristus Sep 2020 #17
What a pivotal moment in your life that must have been. llmart Sep 2020 #18
Treetop Flier? Woodycall Sep 2020 #19
I salute you DemoTex BlueNProud Sep 2020 #20
I'm in awe of you. Great photo. lamp_shade Sep 2020 #21
*SWOON* Skittles Sep 2020 #22
I was separated about a year before that. lpbk2713 Sep 2020 #23
Glad you made it home safely. dware Sep 2020 #24
Great picture, DemoTex. brer cat Sep 2020 #25
Thank You for Your Service, Recommend to All, I'm glad you can tell this story.. Stuart G Sep 2020 #26

Docreed2003

(16,889 posts)
3. Incredible photo, thank you for sharing your story!
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:28 PM
Sep 2020

Welcome home! From an OEF vet, please accept my sincerest appreciation for your service!

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
6. Great pic and I have always appreciated all of your stories that have been shared
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:50 PM
Sep 2020

in various posts.

Tomorrow marks the 41st anniversary (October 1st 1979) of my arrival at Ton Son Nhut to negotiate with the Vietnamese to establish the Orderly Departure Program to move migrants and refugees out of Vietnam on charter planes (and the scheduled weekly Air France flight).

Because Air France only went in once a week it was critical to get everything done in one week.

Arriving on Thursday I checked in and had my first scheduled meeting on Friday at 9:00.

All of our requests/demands were met within an hour. They agreed to everything.

I asked the NV General, "I am kind of surprised how accommodating your team has been and i appreciate it and it will save lives but I have to say I expected some personal tension after such a long war with someone from the US (I represented a UN agency).

He looked at me and said "The US government made an agreement with their friends in the south. They kept their word. They sacrificed 65,000 young men and billions of dollars to keep their word. Who wouldn't want to be friends with a country like that?" (For context the PRC, their former "friends and allies" had invaded Vietnam in the north to "teach them a lesson" after they had invaded Cambodia and defeated the Khmer Rouge.

I have lots of stories from my trips to Vietnam which transpired over a relatively short period of time, but things were crazy.

Here is one story. Vietnam had announced that they were now issuing tourist visas and welcoming tourists, which created great rounds of laughter among the expats in Thailand who traveled to Vietnam in the early days because getting a visa even when you were an NGO and trying to go there to give them medicine could take months. The economy was in collapse, there were no stores open, only one restaurant in Saigon and electricity only ran a few hours a day. There were no places for tourists to go.

One travel agent in Switzerland (where everything is "by the book" ) went to the Vietnamese Embassy in Geneva and miracles of miracles got a visa. The miracles continued when he contacted Vietnamese Intourist (government agency) and made bookings for the only hotel open at the time.

Unbelievably when he arrived there was an Intourist Guide to meet him when the Air France flight landed. He asked to change money at the money exchange, and this is really hard to believe as nothing worked during those early times, there was someone at Than So Nhut currency exchange to change his dollars into dong. He may have been the only one in history to exchange at that CE kiosk because the official rate was something like 15 Dong to the dollar and the street rate was like 200 Dong to the dollar.

He exchanged all of his dollars into Dong which he had carefully calculated would just cover his weekly expenses as the hotel was $ 50 a night. He got to the hotel and started to check in and when they asked for $ 350 for the weekly hotel bill he produced about 6,000 Dong or about $ 30 dollars at the street rate. When he told the counter people that he exchanged all of his dollars at the official rate the staff immediately raced around and grabbed his luggage and shoved him in the taxi to return to the airport before Air France took off.

Unfortunately he was too late and in Ho Chi Minh city with no dollars. They ended up having him spend a night with the AF manager, one with the Counsular head and so on, he returned the next Thursday. The AF manager told me that no matter how many times he tried to explain it the Swiss guy never understood that the "official" exchange rate was window dressing and the entire country including the government worked on the unofficial street rate.
















Buckeyeblue

(5,505 posts)
7. How do you think that day shaped the rest of your life?
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 01:52 PM
Sep 2020

As far as deciding what was important for and to you? Just curious.

Greybnk48

(10,179 posts)
9. How terrifying that had to be!
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 03:40 PM
Sep 2020

I’m glad you made it out safely. I was a military wife in 1970. We had just finished time in Alaska and had been transferred to New Jersey. My ex-husband was search and rescue in the Coast guard.

obamanut2012

(26,166 posts)
10. Thank you for your service, man
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 03:41 PM
Sep 2020

My father was lucky enough to get a good draft number. He came from a blue collar home, so no deferments, and was ready to do his duty, although it's a duty that no 19-year-old should face.

Paladin

(28,281 posts)
16. I'm sorry that you and thousands of others had to fight in that shitty war.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 03:58 PM
Sep 2020

Glad you made it back alive. A relative of mine didn't.

llmart

(15,563 posts)
18. What a pivotal moment in your life that must have been.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 04:06 PM
Sep 2020

You must have so many memories of it, both good and bad. So many of my friends and family and classmates went and some didn't come back. Some came back damaged mentally and physically. War shapes a generation like nothing else.

Stuart G

(38,454 posts)
26. Thank You for Your Service, Recommend to All, I'm glad you can tell this story..
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 06:36 PM
Sep 2020

Hat tip to you.... ...How about 2... ..

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AGAIN...THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.....

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