MSNBC is incredibly disappointing

[angrychair]

especially with the start of Chuck Toad's show.

Its quickly becoming a "both sides were awful" talking points discussion.

That is complete BS. ITS WAS NOT "BOTH SIDES"

GD has the media not learned ANYTHING from 2016???

The only problem on that stage was trump.

All this means is we've got to work even harder to prevent the media from screwing it up and call them out every single time they play that "both sides are the same" middle of the road nonsense.

GOTV

Biden/Harris 2020 landslide

[Gothmog]

1. I Ignore Todd

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[still_one]

6. +++

[hunter]

16. I ignore television.

It made Trump.

[H2O Man]

25. +1

[mvd]

2. Chuck Todd is the worst at that

Last night I was watching, and they were saying the right things. At least Maddow, Williams and Wallace were. Who else is doing the both sides nonsense?

[PatSeg]

28. Yes

Until Chuck Todd, I thought everyone was pretty much on the same page about the debate. I listened to him for a bit, then turned it off. I think Andrea Mitchell said something a bit unnerving as well, but can't remember what it was now. I'm on overload.

[Soxfan58]

3. Chuck Todd

Needs to start his new career at Fox.

[oldtime dfl_er]

4. too much false equivalency going on

in all the media this morning. It's beyond disappointing. But last night, initial reactions on CNN and MSNBC were such that I've never seen so many "savvy" newspeople so utterly shaken by what they saw. I hope THAT'S what viewers remember.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. That's just Chuck Todd. It's what he does.

[Cha]

29. Isn't that why todd got demoted & learned NOTHING?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

30. Evidently. I guess he just doesn't know any other way to do it.

[ace3csusm]

7. One way to start, is stop watching Chuck Todd i did a year ago

It must be working because Nicole Wallace got his spot, I tune in to Nicole

[Politicalgolfer]

8. Turned off the Chuck shitshow😡

He made sure that no one was excited about Biden and mildly upset about Trump by dragging out the usual watch party of repubs and assholes pretending to be dense.....goddamn it!

[aaaaaa5a]

9. What do you expect from Chuck Todd?

Don’t watch or post about his show. Less attention. Less ratings. That takes him off the air.

[edhopper]

10. For Todd to be dissappointing

you must first expect something better from him. Your bad.

[imanamerican63]

11. I was just ready to say the very same thing!

[Raven123]

12. Agree. Stop asking if Biden went over the top when calling out Trump.

[maxrandb]

13. In a just and sane world, Chuck Todd would be responsible for nothing

but reporting on obituaries in some Dumbfuckistan Murika shithole for the rest of his miserable life.

His bothsiderism would be insufferable, but much less damaging to our country.

"Gertrude Alflin, 86, passed away peacefully in her sleep. Some say she was a woman of tremendous faith, attending church every morning. Others say that she was really a cruel woman who hated her family. Reports are that she became more of a homebody when the love of her life, Bernard, passed away several years ago, although some have questioned her whereabouts at the time of his death. In lieu of flowers, the family have asked that you play a Bingo Card in her honor at the Tuesday Afternoon VFW Post Bingo Game, but some people say that this only supports gambling.

She'll be laid to rest at Shady Grove Cemetery and Drive-Thru on Monday, although some have said it will be Wednesday."

"Back to you Andrea for the latest on the sheep shearing festival"

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

32. LOL!

[brooklynite]

14. Thank you for watching...

[BComplex]

15. Partly because networks listen to what fox tabloid propaganda is saying. They need to quit doing

that. Fox needs to be taken out of the equation of legitimate media channels BY THE OTHER CHANNELS. If they give a shit about America at all, they need to start telling viewers that fox is tabloid propaganda and only stupid people listen to it.

[dogknob]

17. Comcast

Comcast Comcast Comcast Comcast Comcast Comcast Comcast Comcast
https://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/richard-wolffe-the-making-of-the-new-msnbc-com

[blueinredohio]

18. Heard the both sides thing first thing this morningj.

From Mary Bruce on ABC.

[mnhtnbb]

19. Watch Nicolle Wallace at 4.

She was the one who identified Trump's behavior as abusive last night.

Spot on.

[lunatica]

20. It's an established fact that

Chuckie has cheese for brains.

[Fiendish Thingy]

21. You won't be hearing any both sides BS from Maddow, Wallace, Reid , Hayes, O'Donnel

Really the only hacks on MSNBC I would expect bothsiderism from are Todd and Mitchell, (and Tweety if he was still there).

[SlogginThroughIt]

22. THIS IS WHY WE DONT SURRENDER SOCIAL MEDIA!!!

[Tarheel_Dem]

23. Who the hell still watches Chuck Toad?

[Upthevibe]

24. angrychair....

I take issue with your premise. I think almost everyone on DU can agree that Chuck Todd is horrible. That's why he was demoted to an earlier hour and Nicole Wallace now has two hours.

Speaking of Nicole, she's great, Joy's great, Lawrence is great, and Rachel Maddow so exceeds greatness that any adjective/word to describe her doesn't exist. I think a whole new term needs to be created just for Rachel.

I don't want to be rude, but other than Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell (who I really don't care for) it pisses me off that you make a ridiculous assertion that MSNBC is claiming both sides are the same........

[angrychair]

33. The entire morning

and early afternoon slots were very soft on how they couched everything

It was ambitious, filled with generalities about the debate.

Its very subtle, "most believe the debate was horrible and a disgrace" but never distinguish the issues of the debate anymore than that. Meaning they never clarify that it was trump that made it a dumpster fire, not Biden.

They play the video of the undecided voters and focus on the Biden comments while soft-peddling the trump comments.

With few exceptions, Joy Reid's show is the first time all day that a reporter has made it clear, throughout their entire show, that the debate debacle was 100% trump's fault.

[treestar]

26. They want the horse race no matter how bad for the country

their ratings matter first to them.

In that, they are like the Dotard. And they want 4 more years of him because covering his outrageous acts gets them ratings.

[angrychair]

34. EXACTLY

Thank you, that is my concern

[Tribetime]

27. Yes I saw Andrea Mitchell try to make a deal of Biden telling Trump to shut up

[sarcasmo]

31. Peaky Blinders is a hundred times better.

[bdamomma]

35. Chucky Todd

I don't listen too.