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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnyone know: what would happen if Trump went on a ventilator and wasn't expected to survive?
Would it mean Pence would take all his votes? Some idiots have probably already voted for Trump.
Does anyone know if our Constitution has this in writing?
Thanks.
TwilightZone
(25,467 posts)The states have control of the elections and will proceed on November 3rd. McConnell has said the same thing.
msongs
(67,395 posts)ballots list the ticket - trump/pence and biden/harris. if trump dies pence picks up the votes. then a new vice pres is selected by/for the winner after the election
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Pence would become the President, but the RNC would have to pick him (or someone) to replace Trump as the R nominee.
The problem for the Rs is that voting has already begun by mail or early voting in many states, so it will be difficult for a replacement to be substituted. The further we go on in October, the more difficult this becomes.
That's why I suspect something will happen soon if Trump's condition is serious.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)C Moon
(12,212 posts)beastie boy
(9,318 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)I don't know how many times this issue has been covered here, but the election date is set by an act of Congress per the Constitution. It was set as the Tuesday following the first Monday in November in 1845 and hasn't been changed since, although now most states permit early voting. Nobody - not Trump or McConnell or anybody else - can postpone or stop the election. If Trump died or became incapacitated before November 3, the party would have to designate a substitute. Although Pence would be the acting president they wouldn't have to choose him.
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)it will not happen.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)I am LOVIN' DU tonight.
magicarpet
(14,145 posts).... dancing in the streets, drinking and singing. Everyone, 'cept the Nazis would rejoice,.. coast to coast and world wide.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Dude, its not that long of a document. Read it yourself. Im continually amazed by these questions.
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)kimbutgar
(21,137 posts)Satans spawn has the anti christl watching over him tonight.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)... for as long as necessary. If Chump doesn't recover and he's permanently incapacitated, then the Amendment 25 comes in to play. The Cabinet can vote for Pence to become the "permanent" POTUS even if Chump should be still be alive, but not able to function as President.
Because we're in the middle of an election, then no matter what, the new term begins on January 20th. So Pence's "term" in the White House could be very short.
hlthe2b
(102,234 posts)https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-usa-trump-election-ex-idUSKBN26N343
Heres how U.S. law and party rules address those scenarios.
- Can the Nov. 3 election be postponed?
Yes, but that is very unlikely to happen. The U.S. Constitution gives Congress the power to determine the election date. Under U.S. law, the election takes place on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November, every four years. --snip--
- What happens if a candidate dies ahead of the election? Both the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee have rules that call for their members to vote on a replacement nominee. However, it is likely too late to replace a candidate in time for the election.
Early voting is underway, with more than 2.2 million votes cast, according to the U.S. Elections Project at the University of Florida. The deadline to change ballots in many states has also passed; mail ballots, which are expected to be widely used due to the coronavirus pandemic, have been sent to voters in two dozen states.
Unless Congress delays the election, voters would still choose between the Republican Trump and Democrat Joe Biden even if one died before Nov. 3. If the winner is deceased, however, a new set of questions emerges.
- What happens if a candidate dies before the Electoral College votes?
Under the Electoral College system, the winner of the election is determined by securing a majority of electoral votes allotted to the 50 states and the District of Columbia in proportion to their population.
The Electoral Colleges electors will meet on Dec. 14 to vote for president. The winner must receive at least 270 of the 538 total Electoral College votes.
Each states electoral votes typically go to the winner of the states popular vote. Some states allow electors to vote for anyone they choose, but more than half of the states bind electors to cast their votes for the winner.
Most state laws that bind electors do not contemplate what to do if a candidate dies. Michigans law requires electors to vote for the winning candidates who appeared on the ballot. Indiana law, by contrast, states that electors should switch to a partys replacement if the candidate has died. -snip--
In the event of a candidates death, the opposing party might challenge in court whether bound electors should be allowed to vote for a replacement, said Lara Brown, the director of the Graduate School of Political Management at George Washington University.
- What if a winner dies after the Electoral College has voted, but before Congress has certified the vote?
After the Electoral College votes, Congress must still convene on Jan. 6 to certify the results. If a presidential candidate won a majority of electoral votes and then died, it is not entirely clear how Congress would resolve the situation.
The Constitutions 20th Amendment says the vice president-elect becomes president if the president-elect dies before Inauguration Day. But its an open legal question whether a candidate formally becomes the president-elect after winning the Electoral College vote, or only after Congress certifies the count.
much more at the link
C Moon
(12,212 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)If a party candidate dies, the respect national committee can replace at will. If trump dies and election has the trump ticket winning, the RNC can appoint Sean Hannity as trumps replacement.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)but technically they could pick anyone, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, or Nikki Haley, if they wanted.
EndlessWire
(6,514 posts)If Trump is in Walter Reed, Pence has probably taken over.
Who is running the country? Who is the nuclear football following?
Raine
(30,540 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,778 posts)Surely the VP has a nuclear football with him at all times as well.
DeminPennswoods
(15,284 posts)nt