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Bucky

(55,334 posts)
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:23 AM Oct 2020

Please don't say karma

Karma kills a quarter of a million Americans by mid-December

Trump gets his infection detected early, then gets world class medical care paid for by tax dollars he never contributed to. Not a bit of hydroxychloroquine.

And Americans are all going "Good job, karma!!"

*sigh*

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Please don't say karma (Original Post) Bucky Oct 2020 OP
you have a misunderstanding of karma beachbumbob Oct 2020 #1
+1 mantis49 Oct 2020 #4
well gee isn't that convenient Maru Kitteh Oct 2020 #12
200,000 get Covid. It's not Karma. Trump gets Covid. That is Karma. Got it. Bucky Oct 2020 #13
If karma brought malefactors our just rewards, Hortensis Oct 2020 #21
Karma isn't killing anyone Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #2
FYI Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #9
Irrelevant to the topic at hand. LanternWaste Oct 2020 #14
That was kind of my point Bucky Oct 2020 #15
Criminal negligence will kill over 300,000 by December malaise Oct 2020 #3
I don't believe in karma JonLP24 Oct 2020 #5
Karma just made a mental note of your opinion grantcart Oct 2020 #11
Thank you Bucky Oct 2020 #16
I don't, either. shrike3 Oct 2020 #18
Actually that is what Karma is PatSeg Oct 2020 #19
The irony of Trump being hospitalized with Covid Chainfire Oct 2020 #6
'Retribution' doesn't quite cut it. BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 #7
I think you're missing the point. cwydro Oct 2020 #8
The word "Karma" is nearly always misused sanatanadharma Oct 2020 #10
Karma is complicated Bucky Oct 2020 #17
Well said PatSeg Oct 2020 #20
Despite the technical meaning, there is a colloquial meaning with a life of its own Silent3 Oct 2020 #23
Karma isn't reward and punishment, it's cause and effect. Fozzledick Oct 2020 #22
Maybe some people define or think of karma that way... Silent3 Oct 2020 #25
Um, you seem to have totally missed the point. Fozzledick Oct 2020 #26
Maybe it's divine intervention gollygee Oct 2020 #24
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. you have a misunderstanding of karma
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:26 AM
Oct 2020

karma brings to people, like trump, their just rewards. All the others are "victims" of trump and karma had no involvement what so ever.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. If karma brought malefactors our just rewards,
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:45 AM
Oct 2020

though, just imagine how much better we'd all behave. We'd be far more afraid to be hurtful toward others, and we and our societies would be very different.

One thoughtful, cool-eyed glance around at what happens to the players in each of our lives, though, should be enough to dispel this wishful and hypocritical notion.

Hypocritical because it provides excuses for passivity in the face of evil and acceptance of what should never be accepted.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
11. Karma just made a mental note of your opinion
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:18 AM
Oct 2020

(Just kidding. Karma doesn't take opinions personally.)

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
18. I don't, either.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:32 AM
Oct 2020

It's like hell: there are so many bad people, other people want to believe that somehow, some way, they'll get what they deserve. Look around, rarely happens. Especially the rich and powerful, who are pretty much insulated from consequences. Trump got the virus because viruses just don't care who you are.
 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
6. The irony of Trump being hospitalized with Covid
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:44 AM
Oct 2020

is undeniable regardless of whether you call it karmic or not.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
8. I think you're missing the point.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:47 AM
Oct 2020

No one is wishing this disease on anyone.

I had it in August. Let’s just say I’m not sorry the chickens have come home to roost right on his doorstep.

sanatanadharma

(4,064 posts)
10. The word "Karma" is nearly always misused
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:16 AM
Oct 2020

The widely used word "Karma" is nearly always misused. Most people when speaking of karma are actually referring to results, not actions.

However the root meaning of the Sanskrit word is "action". We all, as the subject, do action; we all act expecting results.
Few people do actions while expecting no results; near no one does action knowing the results will be unwanted.
We all are also the objects, receiving the actions of the world and others upon us; then we become reactive.

Karma is action and results occur; this is science. Results are of two types, the seen and the unseen.
And of two types in this way too, there are results beneficial to the actor and results not beneficial.
Most of the time people use the word karma to speak about the moral-ethical results of our actions.
There is an implied understanding of an invisible order, a moral balance.

Just as the physical world includes indisputable invisible gravity as part of the total order, people assume an orderly moral world exists also.
God is not a required conceptual premise for belief in ethics.
Societies make laws because orderly morality is a given. It is baked into the realm of the orderly as much as is gravity.
Children and animals express built-in understanding of compassion and fairness.

Karma is not moral retribution. Karma is the unstoppable truth that those who repeatedly choose to act in ways that oppose the the truth, will fall. Karma exists not as satisfaction of the human need for vengeance but rather as the universal need for balance.
It is just science.

Ibid: Taoism, Vedanta, Quantum
Caution: compassion and balance may appear differently on different screens. Users results may vary.
The author takes no responsibility for misuse by others.

PatSeg

(49,589 posts)
20. Well said
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:36 AM
Oct 2020

I think many people have a misunderstanding of what the word means and they associate it with Eastern religious doctrine. It really is a simple principle but the word is often misused.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
23. Despite the technical meaning, there is a colloquial meaning with a life of its own
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:00 AM
Oct 2020

The word "karma" has been used to mean a kind of cosmic payback for the bad things we do to other people for so very long that you've just got to accept that it's a secondary definition of the word.

And the word is often used ironically, by people (such as me) who don't actually believe at all that there's any mystical force out there meting out punishments for bad actions, nor any belief that human ideas of "good" and "bad" behavior are subject to rigorous physical laws like action/reaction.

Fozzledick

(3,890 posts)
22. Karma isn't reward and punishment, it's cause and effect.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:58 AM
Oct 2020

The basic concept is that you can't avoid the consequences of your actions, not that there's any moral judgment.

It's as mechanical and inescapable as Newton's Laws of Motion.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
25. Maybe some people define or think of karma that way...
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:08 AM
Oct 2020

...but there certainly isn't the slightest bit of evidence that the consequences of our actions, when framed in terms of human ideas of "good" and "evil", follow anything at all like a "mechanical and inescapable" physical law.

It's entirely possible to do a great deal of good, and still suffer more than evil people.

It's entirely possible to do a great deal of evil, get away with all or most of it, and enjoy a much better life than people who have done a great deal of good.

Neither physical laws, nor mystical forces, are definitively and provably out there ensuring eventual ultimate justice.

Fozzledick

(3,890 posts)
26. Um, you seem to have totally missed the point.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:21 AM
Oct 2020

It's NOT about good, evil or justice.

Good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people.

All manifest forms are transitory and impermanent, and attachment to them inevitably brings suffering.

But if you piss into the wind, you're gonna get soaked. No judgment, just cause and effect.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
24. Maybe it's divine intervention
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:05 AM
Oct 2020

If Mitch gets it and somehow there can't be a vote on the SCOTUS justice, then I'll be at church.

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