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wackadoo wabbit

(1,294 posts)
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:54 PM Oct 2020

Wait, does anyone really believe that video of Trump was filmed today?

You've got to be kidding me. That video of Trump that was released today was, I'm sure, filmed about the same time as the one yesterday, the one that was released around the time he left for the hospital.

I'm sure he filmed a number of videos before he left, with the intention of them trickling out over the next few days, to reassure the populace that he's fine (even if he's at some point on a ventilator).

How do I know this? Well, of course I don't know for certain. But think about it. When has he ever told the truth about his health (or anything else) when a lie would suffice? To quote Dorothy Parker, "Every word [he says] is a lie, including "and" and "the."

I won't believe that any of the videos that appear over the next few days are real unless he's holding up that day's newspaper.

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Wait, does anyone really believe that video of Trump was filmed today? (Original Post) wackadoo wabbit Oct 2020 OP
I guess I missed the video...doing yardwork. cayugafalls Oct 2020 #1
Yes, can someone post this new video. I just saw the one he made at the White Maraya1969 Oct 2020 #22
I found this news report. Video is at the start. cayugafalls Oct 2020 #24
Of course not...they all lie constantly so why would we. BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #2
I don't usually buy into conspiracy stuff, but there is something fishy about that video Quixote1818 Oct 2020 #3
Hospitals have special offices just for video conferencing. Runningdawg Oct 2020 #10
Now a man with covid, life and death covid and 48 hours making a difference is wandering the LizBeth Oct 2020 #17
Like I said - a lot of fake here Runningdawg Oct 2020 #21
I hate to reply to my own post, but here's another point to ponder wackadoo wabbit Oct 2020 #4
Yet another CT. former9thward Oct 2020 #5
What's a CT? Sogo Oct 2020 #25
Conspiracy Theory MustLoveBeagles Oct 2020 #26
Thanks. Sogo Oct 2020 #29
Your welcome MustLoveBeagles Oct 2020 #31
he needs to hold up the current Ny times thinkingagain Oct 2020 #6
Since he was able to spread his shit of Fox today I think it must be real. nt doc03 Oct 2020 #7
I have to admit Karma13612 Oct 2020 #8
Wouldn't he have had IV marks on his hands? Roland99 Oct 2020 #9
Most likely 2-3 inches above the wrist. Runningdawg Oct 2020 #13
If he was as ill as leaks seem to indicate . . . wackadoo wabbit Oct 2020 #16
Yes it's common to temporarily cap the IV port for short periods of time. Runningdawg Oct 2020 #23
If the patient can eat and drink why would they be on saline? GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #34
So that the needle doesn't need to be removed wackadoo wabbit Oct 2020 #35
But that my point. He is getting Remdesivir but besides that what drug can they give him? GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #36
Well, I'm not a doctor, but if Trump were to suddenly go into respiratory failure, for example, wackadoo wabbit Oct 2020 #37
That is standard practice for everyone. mercuryblues Oct 2020 #38
Yep and we keep an IV going most of the time TKO - to keep open - a vein for emergency meds. Runningdawg Oct 2020 #40
It was filmed in the same hanger as the moon landing! Blue Owl Oct 2020 #11
I believe he filmed at the WH on Friday before leaving Wanderlust988 Oct 2020 #12
Depends, what color face did he have yesterday. He paints his face. If it was orange yesterday, LizBeth Oct 2020 #14
Yesterday was white, too /nt wackadoo wabbit Oct 2020 #19
I posted a similar posit alittlelark Oct 2020 #15
It's not a big leap into CT-land to suggest this. Chemisse Oct 2020 #18
Right, it's not like people are saying it's someone else JI7 Oct 2020 #27
I agree MustLoveBeagles Oct 2020 #28
The Presidential Suite is very traditional and has wood features in each room. The 42bambi Oct 2020 #20
The thing I don't get is I read he had a 103 fever last night marlakay Oct 2020 #30
That's COVID. I know 2 people how have had it. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #33
Show me a recent video of Trump sitting on a toilet, tweeting (which would have a date and time Marie Marie Oct 2020 #32
I don't follow your logic Kaleva Oct 2020 #39

Maraya1969

(23,489 posts)
22. Yes, can someone post this new video. I just saw the one he made at the White
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:33 PM
Oct 2020

House. What did he make one from Walter Reed?

BigmanPigman

(55,026 posts)
2. Of course not...they all lie constantly so why would we.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:59 PM
Oct 2020

With team tRump you must assume they are lying about everything right off the bat, then they have to prove that they are telling the truth. Guilty until proven innocent applies to them, always.
This is what his hospital suite looks like so it could have been filmed there but the backgrounds don't look the same.
government-funded health care sure looks nice


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Quixote1818

(31,154 posts)
3. I don't usually buy into conspiracy stuff, but there is something fishy about that video
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:59 PM
Oct 2020

The style of interior is completely wrong for Walter Reed and more like the White House. I don't know for sure but I really would like to see interior shots of Walter Reed's Presidential room as it looks today.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
10. Hospitals have special offices just for video conferencing.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:15 PM
Oct 2020

There may be a lot of fake here, but its not the room.

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
17. Now a man with covid, life and death covid and 48 hours making a difference is wandering the
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:21 PM
Oct 2020

hospital to make a video?

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
21. Like I said - a lot of fake here
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:31 PM
Oct 2020

Why in the hell would you move a high risk/high profile patient FROM one of the most secure buildings on earth, TO a public hospital full of positive cases, to treat a mild case and administer an IV? They are lying AGAIN. He maybe dying, he may be perfectly healthy. The one thing we can ALL agree on is he is LYING.
BTW in the shot of Trump walking to Marine1 for the trip to the hospital - the outline of a portable 02 concentrator can be seen under the R side of his jacket. Most of the tubing is concealed by the mask, but a portion is visible behind the R ear.
I worked in the OK Trauma One center designated for Trump if he was every in need of care in our airspace. One entire floor was to be cleared immediately. The OK FBI arrive and take charge within in minutes of receiving the order and until the SS arrive. There is a protocol book 6" thick to be followed. The vetting process for employees designated for his team is formidable. I took a hard pass on that position when offered, even under Obama.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,294 posts)
4. I hate to reply to my own post, but here's another point to ponder
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:00 PM
Oct 2020

If he's as well as he appeared in that video, why isn't he tweeting?

(I think we can all agree that the tone of "his" recent tweets are not in his voice at all. I'm guessing they're written by Ivanka, but who knows.)

MustLoveBeagles

(15,859 posts)
26. Conspiracy Theory
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:29 AM
Oct 2020

I think it's at least possible that today's video was actually filmed yesterday in the White House. However, I don't think he's faking having Covid19.

Sogo

(7,160 posts)
29. Thanks.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:36 AM
Oct 2020

I get a little frustrated with all the abbreviations that get used like we can read someone's mind what they mean....Maybe it's just that I don't hang out on social media 24/7, and so I'm not up on all the jargon....


MustLoveBeagles

(15,859 posts)
31. Your welcome
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:40 AM
Oct 2020


I've been guilty of using the more common abbreviations of phrases from time to time, but most of them are still a mystery to me.

thinkingagain

(1,350 posts)
6. he needs to hold up the current Ny times
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:02 PM
Oct 2020

Like in a hostage situation. Because few seem to believe those are real.
We need proof.

Karma13612

(4,975 posts)
8. I have to admit
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:05 PM
Oct 2020

I was thinking the same thing.

Either it was prerecorded or those were really wonder drugs he was given.

His improvement was pretty stunning.

We’ll never know.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
13. Most likely 2-3 inches above the wrist.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:16 PM
Oct 2020

You try and avoid the hand if possible especially in agitated patients.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,294 posts)
16. If he was as ill as leaks seem to indicate . . .
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:21 PM
Oct 2020

he'd probably still be hooked up, receiving, at least, saline.

The nurses/doctors wouldn't want to have to reinsert a needle for possible additional infusions. Even when my nonpresidential husband was in the hospital, once the needle was inserted, it stayed there until he was discharged.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
23. Yes it's common to temporarily cap the IV port for short periods of time.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:38 PM
Oct 2020

If you want to get really sneaky tape a 250cc infant size bag to his chest and it's all concealed.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
34. If the patient can eat and drink why would they be on saline?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:08 AM
Oct 2020

There really is no proven treatment for COVID. Just support the patient and hope the body fights it off. Which is normally what happens.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,294 posts)
35. So that the needle doesn't need to be removed
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:03 AM
Oct 2020

As Runningdawg said above, they can cap the port; but, in my experience, once a particular infusion is finished, nurses just slap on a bag of saline to run. There's no harm in saline; we all need water and salt. And it allows them to keep to needle in place for possible subsequent infusions. If you kept the needle inserted with nothing running through it, blood would back up the tubing.

Saline is definitely not a cure for COVID, although I suppose one could argue that placebos can effect miraculous cures occasionally.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
36. But that my point. He is getting Remdesivir but besides that what drug can they give him?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:11 AM
Oct 2020

It’s not like most illnesses where you get regular drugs like antibiotics to cure you.

And the one time I was in the hospital the port was further up my arm.

Even my coworker who was in ICU with COVID says he felt fine most of the time. But when he did not, he thought he was dying. He was pretty much on his own but for oxygen.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,294 posts)
37. Well, I'm not a doctor, but if Trump were to suddenly go into respiratory failure, for example,
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 05:38 AM
Oct 2020

they might want to give him a bolus of dex. If he's already got the needle in his hand/arm, then this would be easily accomplished. If he doesn't, though, they'd have to find a vein and insert the needle (while he's theoretically gasping for breath and perhaps thrashing about), which wouldn't be as easy, nor as fast.

Again, I'm not a doctor, but it seems that if you're treating The Leader of the Free World®, you'd want to give him/her the best possible care, and that as rapidly as possible.

mercuryblues

(16,355 posts)
38. That is standard practice for everyone.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 06:45 AM
Oct 2020

Everyone gets a needle in their arm when admitted into the hospital. Where it is placed, depends on your veins.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
40. Yep and we keep an IV going most of the time TKO - to keep open - a vein for emergency meds.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 03:01 PM
Oct 2020

Most patients admitted to the hospital for whatever reason are dehydrated and IV is also a quick way to play catch up.

Wanderlust988

(775 posts)
12. I believe he filmed at the WH on Friday before leaving
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:16 PM
Oct 2020

And I'm NOT a conspiracy theorist. The first time I saw the video, I felt it was an old video.

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
14. Depends, what color face did he have yesterday. He paints his face. If it was orange yesterday,
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:19 PM
Oct 2020

it was white today so it was not filmed at the same time.

Chemisse

(31,323 posts)
18. It's not a big leap into CT-land to suggest this.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:23 PM
Oct 2020

It would make sense for someone like him to want to buy himself another day of looking like a 'strong leader.'

JI7

(93,493 posts)
27. Right, it's not like people are saying it's someone else
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:31 AM
Oct 2020

But just to say it could have been filmed earlier isn't CT.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
20. The Presidential Suite is very traditional and has wood features in each room. The
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 11:24 PM
Oct 2020

video of Trump appears to have a more modern white cabinetry. This link takes you to the suite at Walter Reed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8800181/Inside-Walter-Reed-Trump-treated-coronavirus-secure-Presidential-Suite.html

marlakay

(13,231 posts)
30. The thing I don't get is I read he had a 103 fever last night
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:38 AM
Oct 2020

How could he be so not sick looking today after that? He is not young enough to bounce back like that from bad fever.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
33. That's COVID. I know 2 people how have had it.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:04 AM
Oct 2020

Early on One minute you think you are dying, a few hours later you feel ok.

One of the was fine after 5 days. The other ended up it IC but not vented. He has since recovered.

Both say it was the weirdest illness they have ever had.

Marie Marie

(11,186 posts)
32. Show me a recent video of Trump sitting on a toilet, tweeting (which would have a date and time
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:43 AM
Oct 2020

on it) and that would be proof enough for me.

Kaleva

(40,324 posts)
39. I don't follow your logic
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 07:04 AM
Oct 2020

I'm unaware of any instance in the past where Trump tried to pass off a tweet or video as real time when in fact it was made days before.

The fact that he lies in his tweets and speeches doesn't support your claim that the video was filmed earlier.

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