Trump had heart palpitations Friday

[octoberlib]

The White House released follow-up statements saying Conley misspoke, but they did little to quell the chaos. The White House’s shifting chronology and lack of transparency are being driven, in part, by Trump’s desire to conceal the seriousness of his illness from the public. Three sources said Trump argued with his doctors on Friday after they told him he needed to be moved to Walter Reed. “He didn’t want to go to the hospital a month before the election,” a Republican close to Trump told me. Two sources said doctors gave Trump an ultimatum: he could go to the hospital while he could still walk, or doctors would be forced to take him in a wheelchair or on a stretcher at a later point if his health deteriorated. “They told him, ‘You can go now or we’re taking you later and it’s non negotiable,’” a second source close to the White House said. Trump waited to leave for the hospital until the stock market closed on Friday, a source said.

After spending months denying the dangers of COVID-19, Trump is expressing an emotion aides have rarely seen: fear. On Friday, Trump grew visibly anxious as his fever spiked to 103 fahrenheit and he was administered oxygen at the White House, according to three Republicans close to the White House. Two sources told me Trump experienced heart palpitations on Friday night—possible side effects of the experimental antibody treatment he received. Trump has wondered aloud if he could defeat the disease. “Am I going out like Stan Chera?” Trump has asked aides, referring to his friend, New York real-estate developer Stan Chera, who died of COVID in April.




Inside Trumpworld, the shock of Trump’s hospitalization is giving way to despair about his prospects in the upcoming election. “They all know it’s over,” a Republican close to the campaign said. “This is spiraling out of control,” a former West Wing official said. Some Trump allies are entertaining conspiracy theories that the White House outbreak was caused by someone with political motives. “It’s weird that all these Republicans are getting it,” a prominent Republican told me. “I don’t know what the fuck is going on. But one thing I’ve learned is: when something major happens thirty days before an election, it usually has to do with the election.” (There is no evidence for this wild claim).

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/this-is-spiraling-out-of-control-allies-panic-about-trumps-hospital-stay-as-white-house-deflects

[soothsayer]

1. Weird that all these republicans are getting it... after constantly ignoring safety precautions

They had a lucky ride until now.

[TheBlackAdder]

19. There's some that say certain states are in the second wave of the virus, which is stronger.

.

Perhaps this is true. Who knows?

The first wave virus might not have affected them but the catching the second wave version does.
There were folks who said that the first wave virus didn't affect people with O blood type as much.

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[Fritz Walter]

46. They also took to heart (literally) other notions

1. "It would go away in warmer weather" -- Friday Feb. 7, and Wednesday February 19;
2. "One day -- it's like a miracle -- it will disappear." Thursday, Feb. 27;
3. “99% of COVID-19 cases are totally harmless.” -- Saturday, July 4;
Plus, many, many more. Source: The Atlantic on October 1: "All of Trump's Lies About the Corona Virus" The Atlantic has removed its pay-wall on pandemic stories, so I encourage everyone to read the whole article.

I have overheard Repukes telling each other "... if I catch it and die from it, it's gawd's will."
Not wanting to engage in a discussion about their magical thinking, I didn't pose the question about their gawd letting this modern-day plague kill over 1 million people world-wide in retribution for the many sins committed by these self-proclaimed xtians..

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. Republicans are getting it because they don't wear masks. Democrats not, because they do wear masks

The tRump allies can't figure it out because they thought they were invulnerable due to white privilege.

Wearing a mask is a medical statement.
Not wearing a mask is the political statement.

[AllyCat]

28. No kidding!

[paleotn]

30. It really is that simple.

[Wounded Bear]

50. Masks are the obvious symbol of how they show disdain to all science...

especially when it appears to affect their bottom line.

Masks are important, yes, but all of the steps necessary to combat the pandemic hurt their profit margins, so they try to ignore them.

[Grokenstein]

3. Yeah, it IS weird

...how all these idiots who refused to wear masks and keep their distance managed to catch this shit after attending super-spreader events along with idiots who KNEW they were infected. It really is a damned mystery.

[Raster]

9. shocked, I tell you, shocked...

[JI7]

4. There is nothing weird about the Republicans getting it. It's why experts have said to

avoid these gatherings and to wear masks. But they didn't listen.

The Republicans getting it are mostly those who don't follow these things.

[Aussie105]

5. So being a Republican

and part of the privileged white guys club, doesn't protect you from the virus?

And the power of positive thought - you know, "I'm SURE I won't catch it, so I will not", doesn't work either?

Who would have thought?

Actually, most people with a functional brain.

[Squinch]

6. "Trump is expressing an emotion aides have rarely seen: fear." WUTTT????? Fear is the only

emotion Donny Bodybags has EVER shown! Are they serious? That orange skin and souffle hair thing is a monument to his fear of being seen as he acutally is! The shoe lifts, the bluster, the "greatest, greatest, greatest!" Those are all obvious evidence of his overwhelming fear.

The man is a walking billboard of only two things: fear and malice borne of fear.

[octoberlib]

8. Yup. Like most bullies , Trump's always been

weak and fearful.

[dchill]

35. Exactly. All fear all the time.

[Croney]

7. It's weird that only the skydivers without parachutes are the ones

smashing into the ground and dying.

[Squinch]

10. THIS is the PERFECT response to this nonsense.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. Touche and DUzy!

[Baclava]

11. "They all know the election is over, its spiraling out of control" Spin faster! Spin faster!

[texasfiddler]

12. I never knew 103 was a low grade fever

[PCIntern]

14. I was gonna say that....

If I had a 103 I’d be delirious And disoriented. I get that at 101.5.

[wnylib]

26. I had 105.6 once, when I was 8 years old,

during the 1957-58 Asian flu pandemic. Definitely had delirium and hallucinations. Still remember one of the hallucinations. Never had them with lower temps like 102 or 103.

That experience made me wary of what might be coming when the first reports on covid came out of China in late 2019.

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

37. i had bad epilepsy as a kid. 103 would induce febrile seizures.

i can still remember them. i would be laying on the couch in front of the radiator, and the fins would become giant, thick hairs that went up, then turned down toward me.
still scares me.

[PCIntern]

43. Wow

Now THAT is nightmarish.

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

51. i did a big ass painting about my life in that house, and it is in there.

i got my head smashed at 6. i was dead for a few minutes. had hallucinations for a decade.
the waking ones were fun. the seizures were in the spot that dealt w proportions. i called it- getting small. everything was still the same proportion i just thought everything got tiny. i would look at my hands, and go- yup. small.
which is kinda funny, cuz i was a tiny kid.
the night time ones werent fun, but i figured out that if i hung on to my pillow, they would pass and i would fall asleep.

had lasting damage till just this year. ja's herb cleaned out the sludge. i still get the occasional short seizure. like, why do cops have those damn lasers on their cars? that one made me fall down the stairs and break a rib in june. long story.

the worst part was that it made me left/right retarded. like, bad. in first grade i had a freckle by my thumb that i had to look at to tell my left from my right.
never could play a musical instrument cuz i couldnt catch on that right it high, and left is low. also never could grok spanish cuz the syntax confused me. now i habla bien bien.

all that is gone now. it is amazing how much less clumsy you are when you are truly bipedal.

[smb]

60. Uh-Oh....

i would look at my hands, and go- yup. small.

You turned into Donald Trump?

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

61. hey. no personal attacks.

i actually thought it was kind of cool. i mean, the twilight zone and the outer limits was on my tv.
i thought i just had a door to another dimension.

[TheBlackAdder]

20. It's Trump, everything associated with him is a Low Grade.

[Wounded Bear]

52. I run low. 97 is a normal temp for me, so 103 is a near death experience...nt

[AwakeAtLast]

58. I do, too!

I lost hair when I was four running a 104 degree temperature. My hair is much thinner than my younger sister's.

[beachbumbob]

15. we can only hope the shear panic and fear surge thru trump,

[Botany]

16. "Am I going out like Stan Chera?"

Inshallah

[reACTIONary]

41. +10 nt

[Botany]

45. 210,000 dead, 7.5 million cases, and every year or every other year I go white water rafting ...

.... on the Gauley River in W.V. the first weekend in Oct.. Family, friends, fun, beautiful fall colors,
a couple of meals but not this year. I know that is small potatoes but damn I miss it.

We would not be going through this if Hillary hadn't had the Presidency stolen from her by Trump,
Russia, the media, Comey, Republicans, and Russia.

reACTIONary

[reACTIONary]

49. Hope you...

.... (we) get through this OK and get back on the water.

[Botany]

53. I don't know how many more Gauley River runs I have in me.

Hope you and yours stay safe and we see "the other side" of this unneeded madness.

[BlueStater]

17. Behind all his bluster, Trump is a pathetic coward. We all know this.

Not that it isn’t sensible to be afraid of a disease that could kill him, but he’ll get nothing but mockery from me after years of his phony “tough guy” bullshit.

[Botany]

24. I can't find the clip but I will always remember Trump last spring in front of one of his "bund ...

... rallies" pronouncing the word coronavirus slowly and enunciating each syllable as
those dumb ass mouth breathers laughed and laughed.

[Purrfessor]

18. Those that insist on playing in traffic should expect to get hit by a car...

And once they do and lie injured alongside the roadway after mocking and lying about those who advised them to get out of the road while they still had the chance, will get zero sympathy from me.

[lark]

21. So he's claiming the repugs deliberately infected themselves?

Well, yes, that is correct, their ignorance and arrogance is why they are all getting it and Dems, who are more cautious and actually believe in facts and science and take steps to prevent it - aren't to the same degree.

As far as Dems infecting anyone, Barr and Pence would be top billing after drumpf and as far as we know, they don't have it. Of course, I think it's very likely they do and are just hiding it too because (so far) they aren't that sick. If Pence gets sick, we will only know if he actually is near death - otherwise it will be totally hidden.

[Wicked Blue]

54. They will do anything to prevent Nancy Pelosi from becoming president

Even if that means pulling a Weekend at Bernie's with Pence. Speaking of whom, where the hell is Mike Pants anyway?

[lark]

59. Exactamundo.

He's quarantining, but it's anyone's guess if he is infected or not. Unless he gets majorly sick, we will never know.

[Traildogbob]

22. Fake news

I call bullshit. Ya have to have a beating heart.

[Le Roi de Pot]

36. Hahahahahahahaaa

[wnylib]

23. If there was a conspiracy, I'd bet on

Republican strategists behind the scenes, hoping to salvage the election by getting Trump replaced by Pence. Or Putin, watching Trump slide down in the polls. Or vengeance from someone who lost a loved one to the virus. So many with possible motives.

I am NOT saying there is a conspiracy, only who could be suspects if there was one.

But I think it's just karma.

[0nirevets]

25. Grandiose, and yes a conspiracy... of dimwits.

He waited to leave until the stock market closed because that's all he thinks about -- superfood for his ego to think he matters that much to the financial world. Nothing about humans suffering though, because he's a psychopath.

He's afraid, because he's a coward. No surprise there.

Republicans think it's a conspiracy, because some of them are getting Covid-19 all at once. Yes, attending large gatherings without masks or social distancing is a conspiracy of STUPID, on display before the whole world.

I'm "65 or over" and voted by mail in Texas, put my sealed ballot inside the regular mail slot in a local Post Office. Done deal.

[bucolic_frolic]

27. Science has caught up with those who don't believe in it

even though they use cell phones, Zoom, highways, cars, electricity, flu shots, etc, etc, etc.

They'd have far more credibility if they whipped around in horse and buggies and got small pox vaccinations from infected sheep.

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

38. cows. through an big cut in the arm.

[chriscan64]

62. I have thought this about creationist televangelists and other science deniers.

Go Amish or go home. No TV for you.

[Illumination]

29. There may be a reason for Trump's heart palpitations...He was probably having a naughty dream

about STORMY...

[llashram]

31. "waited for the stock market to close"

even now all he thinks about is the stocks he and his family would lose, probably millions if his departure had been under duress from the WH in Dr's care.

And the 1%ers probably would lose more. To hell with trump and his grifter family.

[Tribetime]

32. Im coming Elizabeth it's the big one, I've seen the latest polling

I'm down 14

[vlyons]

33. "It's weird that all these Republicans are getting it,"

Gosh, who'd a thunk it? That not wearing a mask could ruin his election chances? Who knew? *snark*

[Ms. Toad]

34. Strong reactions to MAB drugs are one of the risks

My daughter was required to have hers in a hospital setting so full emergency protocols were available. After a year with no reactions, she was switched to home infusions - but her new insurance apparently doesn't think that is safe enough, so she is back in a hospital setting. Generally they are tolerated well, but when they aren't, the reaction can be severe.

[LisaL]

39. Or it could just be anxiety.

I am sure his anxiety was going through the roof. As we all know Mr. Bone spurs is not really that brave.

[Ms. Toad]

42. True. N/t

[paleotn]

40. I believe virtually nothing coming from the White House...

I don't believe Conley as far as I could throw his ass. He's another yes man like boozer Jackson. And why are they reporting Donnie receiving a huge dose of Regeneron's experimental treatment? The maximum dose studied. Which didn't show must improvement over lower doses of the same drug. My better half thought it a act of utter desperation, or his doc is, quote, out of his fucking mind, unquote. Others seem to think the same. In short, my guess is he's in way worse shape than even Meadows is reporting.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[NoMoreRepugs]

48. Let me get this straight - RUMP is getting experimental drugs

for precautionary reasons, not that’s he is displaying more serious complications than we have been led to believe?? Riiiiiiiiggghhhhhtttt.

[paleotn]

55. Incredibly, that's what the White House has reported....

Stupid in my mind. In covering something up or keeping something quiet, the less one says the better, so just don't say anything about specific treatment. Otherwise, those who know will see through the charade.

Given this drug revelation, the rapid onset of symptom and other tidbits, my better half thinks it's desperation and Donnie's condition is way worse than admitted. His 02 sats dropped they say? Interpret that as plunged.

[NoMoreRepugs]

57. My thoughts exactly.

[Bengus81]

44. Why?? Afraid Mrs. Trophy will find out about him and Hicks and trigger more CASH from that pre-nup??

Melina will be filing for divorce in 2021.

[world wide wally]

47. A debate statement that seems to have been lost in the shuffle is when Trump

bragged about his rally's of "40,000" people and no one has gotten the virus from them. He then said Biden was not capable of drawing that many people.
Everything he says is spiteful.

[lindysalsagal]

56. There have been wh positives for weeks. I'm surprised it took this long.