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nature-lover

(1,861 posts)
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:19 PM Oct 2020

If he comes back soon, like a miracle, my spidey sense says it's all been a hoax.

Would love to have someone credible, Fauci or Redfield, verify the positive result. Remember, we are dealing with a reality show master here. He has successfully drown out all stories of taxes, unfavorable polls, Ivanka etc. Overcoming Covid will be spun as a positive for him. Would like to be proven wrong.

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If he comes back soon, like a miracle, my spidey sense says it's all been a hoax. (Original Post) nature-lover Oct 2020 OP
I don't see how he gets a sympathy vote if he acts like he's not sick Walleye Oct 2020 #1
He will have faced the demon and prevailed. They'll buy it. nature-lover Oct 2020 #6
His cult will..the rest of us. NOT Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #8
Exactly. If he is really on dexamethasone, bamagal62 Oct 2020 #2
dump's been cured by Remdesiver and hydroxychloquine, etc. etc. etc. CountAllVotes Oct 2020 #3
Maybe it was all to plug Remesdivir Wicked Blue Oct 2020 #4
If that were the case, why say he took several other drug treatments in addition to Remdesivir ? Hoyt Oct 2020 #10
Trump had stakes in the makers of the cocktail he's taking. Qutzupalotl Oct 2020 #25
Sounds like he might have sold his holdings in 2017, that's how he made capital gains. Hoyt Oct 2020 #26
not a fucking hoax, the personal humiliation and mockery will never go away and ZERO sympathy beachbumbob Oct 2020 #5
I think it's the other way around Windy City Charlie Oct 2020 #12
nothing to suggest this going to happen outside of paranoria beachbumbob Oct 2020 #24
if it was all a hoax he can still catch it. even if he has it noone knows how immune he would become bullimiami Oct 2020 #7
Plus, it would mean everyone else in the Rose Garden was also faking... regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #17
I don't think the Rose Garden folks were faking, merely convenient for him to get it too. nature-lover Oct 2020 #22
It's a last-ditch effort to rally the cult dalton99a Oct 2020 #9
Yes, and it is what makes him relatable to his base. They are all victims of something too. nature-lover Oct 2020 #13
It allows Windy City Charlie Oct 2020 #18
+1. "The president VOLUNTEERED to take an experimental drug, and BEAT the nasty China virus!" dalton99a Oct 2020 #19
Gilead is at a five year low and is ripe for a quick bounce when the bell rings tomorrow Brother Buzz Oct 2020 #11
Hoax doesn't even make sense. It is QAnon level nonsense. Statistical Oct 2020 #14
Unless Windy City Charlie Oct 2020 #16
Even that doesn't work. Statistical Oct 2020 #20
Trump supporters operate on the psychological level of shit-flinging chimpanzees Silent3 Oct 2020 #27
I don't think it is a hoax - I think it was a standard drump administration f-up jimlup Oct 2020 #15
Will it take some high ranking repubs to die before the country seriously asks these questions? CrispyQ Oct 2020 #23
The only hoax is that he's doing well and improving. CrispyQ Oct 2020 #21

bamagal62

(4,504 posts)
2. Exactly. If he is really on dexamethasone,
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:22 PM
Oct 2020

Then he’s on oxygen and it means he’s more seriously ill. If he comes back tomorrow all cured, we will know it’s been a big scam.

CountAllVotes

(22,215 posts)
3. dump's been cured by Remdesiver and hydroxychloquine, etc. etc. etc.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:22 PM
Oct 2020

And all the other drugs he is conveniently *invested* in!

Fraud perhaps?

Don the Con cannot be trusted!

He lies! He lie's! He lies!




Wicked Blue

(8,868 posts)
4. Maybe it was all to plug Remesdivir
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:23 PM
Oct 2020

Doesn't he have some financial interest in that and another medication he is taking?

And he refused to leave for the hospital until after the stock market close on Friday.

'Yay, it's a miracle drug! I'm cured! I'm gonna be rich again when sales go through the roof!'

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. If that were the case, why say he took several other drug treatments in addition to Remdesivir ?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:28 PM
Oct 2020

Qutzupalotl

(15,824 posts)
25. Trump had stakes in the makers of the cocktail he's taking.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:13 PM
Oct 2020
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3610111001?__twitter_impression=true

(I don’t think Trump’s illness fake. Rather, I think Trump is really sick and requested a treatment using drugs he’s invested in, with an eye towards making a profit if he recovers. Doctors would overrule if it were counter-indicated, but since it’s experimental, and Trump is president, maybe he got what he wanted.)

On edit: had.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
26. Sounds like he might have sold his holdings in 2017, that's how he made capital gains.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:17 PM
Oct 2020

Plus article sates: "Trump’s subsequent disclosure forms, including his 2020 form signed July 31, did not list Regeneron or Gilead."

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
5. not a fucking hoax, the personal humiliation and mockery will never go away and ZERO sympathy
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:23 PM
Oct 2020

outside of Russia and Putin

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
12. I think it's the other way around
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:34 PM
Oct 2020

I think they're trying to create the optics that even COVID couldn't hold Trump down from working hard for the American people. He knew he had to beat COVID for the American people. To make it look like that's the amount of strength Trump has.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
24. nothing to suggest this going to happen outside of paranoria
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:59 PM
Oct 2020

the Wizard of Oz has been revealed, the emperors new clothes are gone

bullimiami

(14,075 posts)
7. if it was all a hoax he can still catch it. even if he has it noone knows how immune he would become
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:24 PM
Oct 2020

regnaD kciN

(27,640 posts)
17. Plus, it would mean everyone else in the Rose Garden was also faking...
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:37 PM
Oct 2020

...which would immediately raise two points:

1) Why so many?
2) It would still make the optics terrible for 45, because it would remind everyone that the “everything’s safe” behavior he promoted can lead to an outbreak of the illness.

nature-lover

(1,861 posts)
22. I don't think the Rose Garden folks were faking, merely convenient for him to get it too.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:43 PM
Oct 2020

Playing the devil's advocate here.

dalton99a

(94,129 posts)
9. It's a last-ditch effort to rally the cult
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:26 PM
Oct 2020

The episode we're watching is titled "The president is not a COVID villain, but a victim"

nature-lover

(1,861 posts)
13. Yes, and it is what makes him relatable to his base. They are all victims of something too.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:34 PM
Oct 2020

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
18. It allows
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:38 PM
Oct 2020

It allows his base to look at him as a superhero who beat the deadly virus and that he kept working hard for them through it all.

dalton99a

(94,129 posts)
19. +1. "The president VOLUNTEERED to take an experimental drug, and BEAT the nasty China virus!"
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:41 PM
Oct 2020

It was very brave and selfless of him

Brother Buzz

(39,900 posts)
11. Gilead is at a five year low and is ripe for a quick bounce when the bell rings tomorrow
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:31 PM
Oct 2020

I'm just saying.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
14. Hoax doesn't even make sense. It is QAnon level nonsense.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:34 PM
Oct 2020

By all possible metrics this "hoax" has done catastrophic damage to Trump's campaign. It has elevated COVID to the single issue likely for the rest of the campaign and all but doomed any possible chance of him winning re-election.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
16. Unless
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:36 PM
Oct 2020

Unless they want to create the optic that he's going to come out of this stronger than ever, because of his will to do what the American people elected him to do. I think they're trying to make him look like a superhero

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
20. Even that doesn't work.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:42 PM
Oct 2020

COVID is a loser for Trump. If Trump had any chance of winning they needed to keep COVID off the front pages as much as possible. The more the news is about non-COVID issues the better it is for Trump. This has sucked all the oxygen out of the room. Even news outlet, ever paper, every everything has been nonstop COVID. It also highlights Biden was correct and Trump was weak and stupid. His own supporters are saying he is responsible for getting sick. This has increased the percentage of Republicans who think COVID is a serious threat.

Now I think the debate killed Trump regardless but the debate combined with this just put his campaign in a coffin. He is done. Now it is just a question of how big of a win. Will Biden's coattails allows us to retake the Senate as well and maybe flip some state legislatures.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
27. Trump supporters operate on the psychological level of shit-flinging chimpanzees
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:18 PM
Oct 2020

Sick = weak = bad

Never sick = healthy = good (screech loudly, pound chest)

Oh, sure, his supporters, hating to admit they were ever wrong about anything, would attempt to rally behind a comeback story, but serious damage will have been done.

jimlup

(8,010 posts)
15. I don't think it is a hoax - I think it was a standard drump administration f-up
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:35 PM
Oct 2020

and we only sort of know the truth.

For a hoax this is very badly concieved and very badly played so no, it isn't a hoax.

It is a HUGE SCANDLE and may be criminal. What I want to know is WHEN DID THEY
KNOW TRUMP WAS POSITIVE and then what did they do about it?

These questions have not be adequately answered because the answers point towards criminal neglegence.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
23. Will it take some high ranking repubs to die before the country seriously asks these questions?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:46 PM
Oct 2020

It would be just if the Con's negligence took out the upper echelon of republican leadership.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
21. The only hoax is that he's doing well and improving.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:42 PM
Oct 2020

IMO, that is. I think the best medical care in the world is partly why he appears to be doing ok. I said OK, not great. He has too many factors against him to recover fully, much less recover fully in time to debate or campaign. Again, IMO. He's old, overweight, has a heart condition and who knows what else, and he has a sour disposition.

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