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A group of anti-abortion evangelicals on Friday endorsed Joe Biden, saying that in areas other than abortion, the former vice president is more "pro-life" than President Trump.
"We believe that on balance, Joe Bidens policies are more consistent with the biblically shaped ethic of life than those of Donald Trump," the group said in a statement. "Therefore, even as we continue to urge different policies on abortion, we urge evangelicals to elect Joe Biden as president."
The group, which includes several pastors formerly involved in Republican politics, former Christianity Today chairman John Huffman, and Jerushah Duford, the granddaughter of conservative evangelical leader Billy Graham, emphasized that while they remain opposed to abortion, Democratic policy proposals, such as "accessible health services for all citizens, affordable childcare, a minimum wage that lifts workers out of poverty" will reduce the number of abortions.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/biblically-balanced-agenda-anti-abortion-evangelicals-endorse-biden-over-trump?fbclid=IwAR3bGF86cNBHhSWzGeEGHcWx8lVP-bGmvyp-FJ0mqU9iIG4r0uEjCu226rM]
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)Watch out for poop falling.
JHB
(38,061 posts)
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
DownriverDem
(6,988 posts)anti abortion folks won't need the repub party. I wondered if something like this would happen.
spanone
(141,217 posts)KS Toronado
(23,382 posts)Making repugs question why a repug would vote for Biden, and maybe question why they plan on voting for tRump when other repugs are jumping ship. Think I'll make one, live in a very red town where they hate libtards.
Lucky Luciano
(11,841 posts)...the abortion issue. Color me shocked.
barbtries
(31,217 posts)why didn't you?
Don't concede "pro-life" to women haters.
paleotn
(21,834 posts)About of as pro life as Fred Waterford in The Handmaid's Tale.
mountain grammy
(28,807 posts)It's never been about pro life, never!
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)nt
onetexan
(13,913 posts)paleotn
(21,834 posts)on birth control or abortion. These people, however, are protestant evangelicals. There's at least as many of them as Catholics, and they tend to be more homogeneous in their orthodoxy. Cracks in that wall are surprising.
JI7
(93,365 posts)but each votes counts the same so if these are votes Biden actually gets which would have been considered solid red before then it's good for us.
Cha
(317,721 posts)reality.. who knew!
regnaD kciN
(27,543 posts)...I suspect this is a tiny, tiny subset of evangelicals and, for the overwhelming majority, pro-life remains restricted to outlawing abortion; this the only permissible Christian vote will be to re-elect Trump.
Mariana
(15,613 posts)mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)at least some of the more sensible ones anyway
Silent3
(15,909 posts)It wasn't a direct switch. Sometime back in May she shocked me by saying she'd given up on Trump (not long after staunchly defending him about the injecting bleach craziness). It was the way Trump was encouraging anti-masking, anti-shutdown protests back then that was the final straw for her.
At that time she still was very anti-Democratic, and said she'd vote Libertarian or someone else, but not Biden.
Then somewhere along the line over the next few months, I don't know when, she'd gone all the way over to Biden. She'd even posted an article on her Facebook page about how Christians should feel OK voting for Democrats, and expressing disgust over Republicans manipulating Christians with the abortion issue.
Crunchy Frog
(28,220 posts)and thoroughly reevaluated things. I hope that others are going through a similar process.
Silent3
(15,909 posts)...but a real signal of a deeper change.
Sgent
(5,858 posts)Evangelicals took their theology on abortion from the Pope. Catholicism is the only major religion that until the 1950's believed that a fetus was "ensouled" at conception, and protestants generally took a different view. Jews believe that a child is "ensouled" at first breath and the time between 40 days and birth the fetus is a potential life, but never given the status of an actual life if the mother is in danger.
Silent3
(15,909 posts)...according to this article: https://news.osu.edu/a-concise-history-of-the-us-abortion-debate/
...with the movement against abortions leading up to that starting in the mid 1800s.
Catholic teachings about ensoulment or not, I'd guess that abortion has long been viewed as a way to hide "immoral" conduct... and we can't have that! Using forced birth as a punishment for daring to have unsanctioned sex seems pretty twisted to me, but somewhere inside a lot of people, apparently, that sentiment is lurking. And it seems all too typical that the woman is the one who supposedly deserves the most punishment for it.
I imagine a few anti-abortionists really do care about embryos and fetuses as if they deserve the full status of legal and moral personhood, but given how many anti-abortion people are pro-war, pro-death penalty, pro-nearly-unregulated police use of lethal force, and don't give a damn about health care for everyone, it's hard to give many credit for any supposed moral high ground.
I don't think it was all that big of a partisan issue, however, or even super-important among many religious people in the US, until Republicans decided to cultivate it as a wedge issue.
CTyankee
(67,909 posts)we can differ religiously about when life starts, but we can also prevent unwanted pregnancies through expanded access to contraception.
These things are not hard to figure out if you are sane and open to factual information.
mwb970
(12,108 posts)Verrrrrry interesting....
Mariana
(15,613 posts)Not many, but some.
Kath2
(3,174 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)I predicted exactly this!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214150545
panfluteman
(2,191 posts)If every expectant mother to be could be sure of a sufficient social safety net to take care of the child, there would be a lot fewer abortions.
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andym
(6,053 posts)as she is almost certain to repeal Roe v Wade.
samsingh
(18,326 posts)majority that don't understand or care about the 10 Commandments.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)It will get a dozen or so folks to vote for Biden. LOL!!
Upthevibe
(10,108 posts)what Elizabeth Neumann and Olivia Troye have been saying. They're the two (Christian) Republicans who left the current administration. They have stated that he's not pro-life at all based on his actions regarding COVID19 and the separation of families at the border...
BootinUp
(51,035 posts)mysteryowl
(8,754 posts)Mariana
(15,613 posts)It's not really surprising that a few white Evangelicals would endorse Biden.
Blue Owl
(58,610 posts)Are they telling us his stunt didn't work?
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)Always dumping back in Republicans laps how abortion rates are effected by poverty rates and the well being of the middle and lower classes.
The Democratic Party actually annihilates all Republican policies and attacks, if they would just throw the facts back at them.
