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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums*Pass legislation making Roe the law of the land,'
in face of 'likely' overturn by Court with Coney Barrett sitting.
Bev54
(13,431 posts)Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)And then they declare the law unconstitutional.
elleng
(141,926 posts)so it would at least get us time.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)We have to pack the court and save the ACA...
elleng
(141,926 posts)Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)One of the reason things take so long is because of the filibuster.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)But time will tell.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Which no doubt is on a lot of minds.
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)changes and fundamental improvements in American society, they are going to have to confront the SC. Do any of us have any doubt that the RWNJs on the SC will be intent on doing to Biden, what McConnell did to Obama ? I think it may have been Preet Bharara or someone of that stature who suggested that they could entirely reform the SC, by enlarging the number from 9 to 19, and choosing 3 judges at random per case, thereby being able to hear an awful lot more cases, to reduce the wait time to get there in the first place. Glenn Kirchner suggested an introduction of specialised lower courts as well. There's plenty they could package into sweeping changes, while setting the country (finally) on a socially developed path.
Ninga
(9,012 posts)in the sky, RBG, that Biden has mighty mighty coattails and pulls in as many Senators as possible.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Yes. Congress could pass a law making Roe the law of the land, and that would do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if the SCOTUS ruled that Roe and the new law were both unconstitutional. That new law could be easily overturned, and Joe knows it.
The real question is, Will you expand the Supreme Court in order to counter-balance the current, right-wing leaning of the Courta bias that is obviously opposed to the will of the American people?
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have, so far, refused to answer this question.
-Laelth
Buckeyeblue
(6,352 posts)State laws limiting or banning as abortion violate a woman's constitutional right to choose as outlined in Roe. But laws can extend rights. It's difficult for the court to overturn such laws.
Midwestern Democrat
(1,029 posts)abortion, I really don't see how the federal government could force the states to legalize abortion within their borders - they certainly couldn't use the Commerce Clause to justify such a law.
Buckeyeblue
(6,352 posts)Conservative groups hate both laws but have not been able to declare them unconstitutional because they law doesn't deny anyone rights.
I think the only way to preempt such a law would be to argue that at conception the zygote becomes a person.
dsc
(53,397 posts)Roe was a decision based on Constitutional rights. Conservatives say that there is no right to abortion, that isn't the same as saying one can't pass a law permitting it. It would be rather difficult to rule a law that permitted abortion is unconstitutional. Ruling a fetus had a right to live would cause chaos and policy that the conservatives wouldn't embrace.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)is not weak but evasive...and that is a good thing.
One should keep some cards close to their chests.
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)until he sees what power he has in January. Just like healthcare. People want to vote Trump out, don't give them a reason not to. I believe you will be pleasantly surprised what a 3 branch Dem majority can and will do. President Obama shone the light by saying that filibuster must go. I don't believe he would have said that without some idea of what Joe is thinking. Just concentrate on GOTV, and see what happens after that.
Jersey Devil
(10,833 posts)They believe there is no right to privacy under the Constitution that could give rise to a constitutional right to choice. They believe it is up to a state to decide that in the absence of federal statutes. It is not a matter of approving or disapproving abortion itself.
A federal statute codifying Roe would be very difficult to overturn.
LAS14
(15,506 posts)Response to elleng (Original post)
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Polybius
(21,901 posts)Who knows with them.
steve2470
(37,481 posts)One can dream.