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If you had any doubt re: Chris Christie's karma at play, consider his debate prep "contribution" (Original Post) hlthe2b Oct 2020 OP
Yeah, he is a bad person. madaboutharry Oct 2020 #1
He has COVID, and morbid obesity is a big risk factor. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #20
He also has Asthma Evergreen Emerald Oct 2020 #33
He's a horrible person. octoberlib Oct 2020 #2
Biden jumped 8 points after Turd's insane ranting during the debate. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #22
Is that a recent pic of him ? JI7 Oct 2020 #3
I think so... He apparently did a Sirius interview the day Trump was diagnosed w COVID hlthe2b Oct 2020 #4
He looks like a weeble: weebles wobble but they don't fall down. Bluepinky Oct 2020 #5
Who would have thought we'd ever see Fred Flintstone all dressed up? CaptYossarian Oct 2020 #10
"Proud to be a super-spreader!" struggle4progress Oct 2020 #6
Didn't work asshole.. just made you & Cha Oct 2020 #7
What a fuckin asshole, Americans will remember these people uponit7771 Oct 2020 #8
And we don't even have to wait until they're dead. BKDem Oct 2020 #30
Everything single thing these repugnant bags o shit do backfires. There's your karma! ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #9
And If I were to debate Chris Christie ...I will throw him donut each time he tries to speak Le Roi de Pot Oct 2020 #11
just had some Homer Simpson imagry there (with sound) Evolve Dammit Oct 2020 #21
MMMMMMmmmmmm donuts! lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #23
And on Sunday went to church and felt proud of himself.. Hotler Oct 2020 #12
Thinking back to Bridgegate -- Grammy23 Oct 2020 #13
I believe he knows he's too widely despised to run for President. BKDem Oct 2020 #32
Christy is a piece of shit. So glad it backfired in their faces BIG TIME. KARMA doesn't agree Vivienne235729 Oct 2020 #14
Trump interrupted Biden so much that it was obviously intentional. Sloumeau Oct 2020 #15
Christie, you detestable fat fuck! calimary Oct 2020 #16
I have asked for and not received a reliable source for that allegation. Do you have one? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #17
Perhaps you should show the tweeter is unreliable and also confront them with the allegation. hlthe2b Oct 2020 #18
No. It does not work that way. It is your claim, you have to support it Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #24
It is not my claim hlthe2b Oct 2020 #25
It's your claim because you asserted it here. You have NO EVIDENCE & neither did the other thread.nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #26
Please keep up your combative attacks. hlthe2b Oct 2020 #27
I agree with you. thesquanderer Oct 2020 #35
Nailed it: "One should not be quick to believe (much less redistribute) unverified ...." . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #43
Pretty big risk factor dalton99a Oct 2020 #19
So... czarjak Oct 2020 #28
Is there a source for this? rainin Oct 2020 #29
He clearly alluded to this strategy in his interview immediately post debate hlthe2b Oct 2020 #31
Word "stutter" or subword not mentioned once in whole article. No evidence of your stutter claim Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #34
I realize you want so much to defend Christie. Perhaps his COVID-19 diagnosis has you so upset. hlthe2b Oct 2020 #36
What? I second Bernardo de La Paz's comment. As much as I'd love for it to be true, at this point rainin Oct 2020 #39
Nothing I wrote defends Christie. I defend critical thinking and oppose unsupported allegations. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #40
He didn't mention stutter, disability, speech patterns, anything that supports rainin Oct 2020 #37
Awww... hlthe2b Oct 2020 #38
Being rude doesn't make your evidence compelling. In fact, if your evidence were compelling rainin Oct 2020 #41
You have stated the situation well. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #42
I am surprised that my dislike of Christie could grow Gothmog Oct 2020 #44
Joe has a support system because he has supported others Gothmog Oct 2020 #45

madaboutharry

(42,034 posts)
1. Yeah, he is a bad person.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:03 AM
Oct 2020

Now he is in the hospital and it is not because they want to monitor his asthma.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
2. He's a horrible person.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:13 AM
Oct 2020

Do Republicans ever think about what this looks like from the audience's point of view? It looks like bullying and assholery and most people are turned off by that, as evidenced by Trump's poll numbers.

hlthe2b

(114,201 posts)
4. I think so... He apparently did a Sirius interview the day Trump was diagnosed w COVID
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:19 AM
Oct 2020

Last edited Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:18 AM - Edit history (1)

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
10. Who would have thought we'd ever see Fred Flintstone all dressed up?
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:18 AM
Oct 2020

So if Biden were on crutches, the advice would be "trip him"?

Based on the going rate for haircuts in Trumpland, that would be worth at least $100K.

 

Le Roi de Pot

(744 posts)
11. And If I were to debate Chris Christie ...I will throw him donut each time he tries to speak
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:21 AM
Oct 2020

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
12. And on Sunday went to church and felt proud of himself..
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:21 AM
Oct 2020

for tossing a whole dollar in the collection plate instead of the usual fifty cents.

Grammy23

(6,124 posts)
13. Thinking back to Bridgegate --
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:24 AM
Oct 2020

He was pretty much an asshole and bully. Big lot of good it did him. Notice he is not in the White House. Not even close. If he decides he wants make a run for president, his behavior during that time will come back to haunt him. Maybe he was not the best person to coach tRump on how to conduct himself during the debate.

BKDem

(1,733 posts)
32. I believe he knows he's too widely despised to run for President.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:57 AM
Oct 2020

But doesn't matter. He's unlike to survive, sniff sniff.

Vivienne235729

(3,748 posts)
14. Christy is a piece of shit. So glad it backfired in their faces BIG TIME. KARMA doesn't agree
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:29 AM
Oct 2020

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
15. Trump interrupted Biden so much that it was obviously intentional.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:29 AM
Oct 2020

Many of us suspected it had something to do with either Biden's stutter or the fact that he sometimes gets angry about things, especially things like someone disparaging his son. It is obvious that Trump did not come to debate but instead came to sabotage Biden--and he failed at it miserably.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
17. I have asked for and not received a reliable source for that allegation. Do you have one?
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:30 AM
Oct 2020

Some random twitter account is not exactly a reliable source.

hlthe2b

(114,201 posts)
18. Perhaps you should show the tweeter is unreliable and also confront them with the allegation.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:31 AM
Oct 2020

If you heard his Sirius interview and can attest that he did not say it then you should show the proof. Not make random accusations against others as an anonymous DU poster.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
24. No. It does not work that way. It is your claim, you have to support it
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:39 AM
Oct 2020

If you don't support it, then it remains a random twitter allegation.

That is widely recognized as a cheap debating tactic to make a wild claim and then demand that the other side do all the heavy lifting of evidence. It is the Number One tactic of Russian bots and the ilk they support. Join us and recognize it and refuse to indulge in it.

The other cheap debating tactic is to pose an unprovable negative and then demand that the other side prove it. What Sirius interview? When? Where is the link? At what time stamp? I'm not obligated to listen to a 10 minute / 20 minute / hour interview to find your evidence for you.

Finally, extraordinary claims demand extra ordinary evidence. Claiming illegal or unethical behaviour of a person is on the face of it extraordinary and demands proper supporting evidence. Apparently you have NO EVIDENCE.

It remains an unsupported random twitter allegation.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
26. It's your claim because you asserted it here. You have NO EVIDENCE & neither did the other thread.nt
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:43 AM
Oct 2020

hlthe2b

(114,201 posts)
27. Please keep up your combative attacks.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:44 AM
Oct 2020

I'm sure all here appreciate your desire to protect/defend all the Trumpists against our candidate.

thesquanderer

(13,053 posts)
35. I agree with you.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:03 AM
Oct 2020

One should not be quick to believe (much less redistribute) unverified and unsourced accusations. It's tempting when they reinforce your world view, but this kind of stuff can come back to bite you if and when it's shown to be false... the other side uses it to "prove" the dishonesty of their opposition. Is this one true? Maybe. But I wouldn't assume so or pass it along without evidence.

And yes, it can even be part of Russian or other disinformation campaigns to try to sow even more division in our country.

If you post something, show that it's true, don't ask others to prove you wrong. "Prove me wrong" is so ridiculous, it's become a meme of its own.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
43. Nailed it: "One should not be quick to believe (much less redistribute) unverified ...." . . . nt
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:21 AM
Oct 2020

hlthe2b

(114,201 posts)
31. He clearly alluded to this strategy in his interview immediately post debate
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:56 AM
Oct 2020
https://www.nj.com/politics/2020/09/christie-helped-trump-prep-for-first-presidential-debate-but-said-result-was-hotter-than-expected.html
I think that the advice was for the president to be aggressive, but it was hotter than it was planned to be,” Christie added. --snip--

But the former governor had even harsher words for Biden, saying the former V.P. did not deliver a “reassuring performance” to the American people and that he’d be “very concerned his problems can’t be fixed."

He looked very shaky at many, many times at this debate,” Christie said. “His numbers were way off. He would wander off in mid-sentence. And he used lots of name-calling and insulting language. That’s not rising above it."

“If you’re not up to being able to stand up there for 90 minutes and be consistently coherent, people are gonna wonder whether you’ll be able to do that when you’re sitting behind the desk in the Oval Office," the ex-governor added.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
34. Word "stutter" or subword not mentioned once in whole article. No evidence of your stutter claim
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:02 AM
Oct 2020

It's not evidence of your claim you pose in the OP by asserting the tweet that claims it.

Christie's statements only allude to the long-standing on-going bogus attack on Biden's mental state. Nothing more or less.

hlthe2b

(114,201 posts)
36. I realize you want so much to defend Christie. Perhaps his COVID-19 diagnosis has you so upset.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:04 AM
Oct 2020

Please accept my empathy.

Perhaps he is a friend/mentor of yours?

rainin

(3,246 posts)
39. What? I second Bernardo de La Paz's comment. As much as I'd love for it to be true, at this point
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:10 AM
Oct 2020

there's no evidence it's true. As democrats, evidence matters. We shouldn't engage in spreading rumors, no matter how juicy or tempting.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
40. Nothing I wrote defends Christie. I defend critical thinking and oppose unsupported allegations.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:11 AM
Oct 2020

Period.

I'm not defending Christie. But people who believe in the truth do not misquote others including opponents.

Christie is so despicable there is no need to propagate unsupported claims and then when called on it, offer as evidence something that provides no evidence for the claim.

Everything I wrote was about your claim that you own because you endorsed it with an Opening Post.

You are attacking me personally because you got called on your unsupported claim that Christie coached exploiting stutterer's problems. Please stop. Address the issue.

rainin

(3,246 posts)
37. He didn't mention stutter, disability, speech patterns, anything that supports
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:07 AM
Oct 2020

that claim. I don't doubt he did it, but Christie is too disciplined to say anything like that out loud. So, we can't make the claim

hlthe2b

(114,201 posts)
38. Awww...
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:09 AM
Oct 2020
It will be ok. All those Trumpsters will survive to try to own the Libs again. I'm sure your concerns are noted.

rainin

(3,246 posts)
41. Being rude doesn't make your evidence compelling. In fact, if your evidence were compelling
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:14 AM
Oct 2020

you could just stand on that. I'm amused at the irony, though...how you argue brashly and rudely while trying to call out Christie's unethical tactics. LOL

Gothmog

(180,686 posts)
44. I am surprised that my dislike of Christie could grow
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:00 PM
Oct 2020

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I stuttered until 4th grade. I have met Joe twice at fund raisers and got to discuss stuttering with Joe. I am the proud recpient of a Biden hug and Joe told me about the 20+ young people he calls about stuttering.

I susptected that Christie and trump were trying to trigger Joe's stutter.



My dislike of trump and Christie have grown. I did not think that this was possible
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