Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:10 PM Oct 2020

It simply isn't fair to say that the Republican Party has betrayed its principles.

For the last 4 years the Republican Party has adopted and been faithful to one single guiding principle

The Führerprinzip or the Fuhrer Principle



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerprinzip

The Führerprinzip (German: [ˈfyːʀɐpʀɪnˌtsiːp] (About this soundlisten); German for 'leader principle') prescribed the fundamental basis of political authority in the governmental structures of the Third Reich. This principle can be most succinctly understood to mean that "the Führer's word is above all written law" and that governmental policies, decisions, and offices ought to work toward the realization of this end.[1] In actual political usage, it refers mainly to the practice of dictatorship within the ranks of a political party itself, and as such, it has become an earmark of political fascism.

11 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
It simply isn't fair to say that the Republican Party has betrayed its principles. (Original Post) grantcart Oct 2020 OP
Yep. Sounds about right. Alliepoo Oct 2020 #1
They haven't had principles since Raygun took office Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #2
Point is, they *do* have principles. It's just that they're fascist principles unblock Oct 2020 #3
Guessing he only read the title grantcart Oct 2020 #5
I get your point... Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #8
Well said. Caliman73 Oct 2020 #11
yep you nailed it steve2470 Oct 2020 #4
The scary thing about this Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2020 #6
I bet Trump has, to the Joint Chief and all top military and.... steve2470 Oct 2020 #7
Me too Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2020 #9
I agree nt steve2470 Oct 2020 #10

unblock

(52,113 posts)
3. Point is, they *do* have principles. It's just that they're fascist principles
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:29 PM
Oct 2020

Mostly loyalty and bigotry and sexism.

Among their principles is that running about lying about their principles is totally cool, especially when talking about principles they believe should apply only to democrats, minorities, etc. like fiscal responsibility and law & order.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
8. I get your point...
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:47 PM
Oct 2020

I suppose my point is that they do not have what we consider "principles" that are in the common interest of Americans.

Caliman73

(11,722 posts)
11. Well said.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:59 PM
Oct 2020

They have not betrayed their "principles". They are following conservatism to its logical end state.

Conservatives are the ideological decedents of Royalists, or people who supported the monarchy and aristocracy. Now, they do not necessarily support the idea of kings and nobility, but they believe that there is a hierarchical nature to society and that the "best" people should be in charge. In the past, the best were the monarchs, lines of nobility that amassed power and wealth. With the fall of monarchy, they moved on to a different criteria in selecting "the best" which lay along racial and economic lines. White and wealthy and Christian was "best". The best are beyond the standards needed to rule the "common" and less than people. This is why they seem to lie, cheat, and steal without remorse, while claiming to be for "law and order" as you said.


It's not unfair. It is inaccurate to say that Republicans betrayed their principles. They are following them.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
4. yep you nailed it
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:34 PM
Oct 2020

If he could get the armed forces to swear loyalty to him alone, he would do it, I am convinced.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-military-oaths

The Führer Oath

Following Hitler's appointment as Chancellor in 1933, the military oath changed again, although soldiers were required to swear loyalty to their people and country (“Volk und Vaterland”), rather to individual leaders. All this changed with the death of German President Paul von Hindenburg on August 2, 1934. At this time, Adolf Hitler began to solidify his control over Germany. That same day, all military personnel in Germany swore a new oath of allegiance. The oath was no longer one of allegiance to the Constitution or its institutions, but one of binding loyalty to Hitler himself:

“I swear by God this holy oath, that I will render to Adolf Hitler, Führer of the German Reich and People, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, unconditional obedience, and that I am ready, as a brave soldier, to risk my life at any time for this oath.”

From this point forward, all existing units and all new military recruits would swear the so-called “Führer Oath.” The oath became law in July 1935. Civilian officials would swear a similar oath.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
7. I bet Trump has, to the Joint Chief and all top military and....
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:46 PM
Oct 2020

I hope they all said some version of FUCK YOU Mr. President! to him.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»It simply isn't fair to s...