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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLuckily for me, an osteopath was willing to see me -- when the MD's wouldn't.
Because an earlier pregnancy had put me in the hospital for three weeks, I decided to get my maternity care from an OB instead of with our family practice physician and all had been going well. Then, when I was six months pregnant, I suddenly became very ill with a fever and cough.
When I called the OB to tell them I was afraid I had pneumonia I had had it four times in the past and recognized the symptoms they said they couldnt see me, because I was sick. (They didnt want to expose anyone else.) They told me to call our family practice physician, so I did.
I told that MDs office that I was six months pregnant, that I felt like I had pneumonia again, after four times in the past, and that the OB couldnt see me and said I should call them. Nobody in the primary care office, not my doctor or her partners, could squeeze me in. This was a Monday. The earliest anybody could see me was on Thursday. Thursday!
Beginning to panic, I told them I couldnt wait that long, that I was having trouble breathing, was worried about the baby, what should I do? Should I go to the emergency room, or what? And the nurse gave me the name of a newer doctor, another family practice doctor, she thought might be able to see me.
That doctor turned out to be an osteopath, and she squeezed me in that day. She confirmed that I did have pneumonia and immediately started me on an antibiotic. I saw her a few days later and, though Id improved, I wasnt improving fast enough, so she switched to a different antibiotic, which did resolve the problem. Later, she told me that shed come close to putting me in the hospital, but because I had such good care at home both my husband and sister were taking care of me she decided I could manage there. But she called me at home every day to make sure I was still doing okay.
So two different practices full of MDs failed me. The first, because I had a problem that didnt involve my uterus. The second, because they had no time for an appointment for 3 days and wouldnt consider squeezing in a seriously ill pregnant patient.
I stayed with that osteopath through the pregnancy and afterwards, till she and her husband moved to a different part of the state. Along the way, I learned about osteopaths and their training. They are not equivalent to chiropractors or homeopaths. They are not quacks. They are fully licensed physicians, who take the same boards that allopathic physicians take.
And that osteopath viewed as a quack to many DUers -- might have saved my life, or my babys life. Ill never know but Ill always be grateful.
obnoxiousdrunk
(3,115 posts)tblue37
(68,436 posts)but it doesn't seem to make much of a dent.
Cirque du So-What
(29,732 posts)are speaking from a position of ignorance.
Yeehah
(6,486 posts)from some really ignorant people.
The D.O.s I've had for providers have been great.
Siwsan
(27,834 posts)I work with physicians from both medical branches for almost 30 years. I usually found the DOs to be much easier to work with and FAR easier to talk with about problems. (We called MDs 'M-Deities'.)
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,536 posts)I have no opinion about them one way or the other, having never dealt with one, but I understand that their medical training is essentially the same as MDs'. Conley's problem isn't his medical qualifications but the fact that he, like so many others in Trump's orbit, either feels obligated to lie for him or wants to lie for him. Dr. Ronnie Jackson, who is an MD, was at least as bad (and now he's a devout Trumper, running for Congress). There are a whole lot of people with stellar professional credentials who nevertheless have partaken deeply of Trump's Kool-Aid - many lawyers and military people as well as physicians - because they are morally-weak people who have allowed Trump to devour their souls.
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)Stinky The Clown
(68,952 posts)3catwoman3
(29,406 posts)He has let his integrity be co-opted by an amoral person.
BusyBeingBest
(9,173 posts)Some of the goofiest people around Trump are MD's.
obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)doctor. She is great, the best doctor I have ever had. She is a DOCTOR, and had the same med school training as her classmates who have MDs. And, her MD classmates also had the same training as she did.
I am not a "woo" person at all, and would NEVER go to anyone who was a "woo doctor."
Oseteopaths are different in the US than other countries, much how many Americans look askance at midwives, whereas they don't in the UK.
unitedwethrive
(2,016 posts)Do you recall the name of the school?
dalton99a
(94,122 posts)I know that the state-funded DO schools (e.g. Texas, Michigan, Ohio) with reserved seats in local hospitals offer a solid medical education with rotations comparable to their state MD school counterparts. The lack of research opportunities is an obvious problem for matching into certain specialties, but then I'd say most DO students self-select into primary care, and the match data reflect that
mcar
(46,058 posts)The denigration of DOs here has been disturbing, to say the least. I've worked with and had as physicians quite a few and I've never had an issue with them.
Slam Dr. Conley all you want, but to tar all DOs with the same insults makes no sense.
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)dalton99a
(94,122 posts)Many are working in ICUs and ERs around the country and in military bases abroad
The insults against them on DU are ignorant and disgraceful
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Its the best thing Ive heard all day, and it made me cry.
Sounds to me like Trumps personal doc simply has the same personal flaws as so many of those who find themselves in his orbit: they find themselves overwhelmed by his dominance and Will to Power. Someone wrote a whole book about that: Everything Trump Touches Dies.
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)It was scary for a while there, but it all worked out in the end.
LAS14
(15,506 posts)... is an osteopathic hospital. Fine, complete care. I went there with a stroke. They were smart enough to have me sent to Maine Medical in Portland. But I credit them for that decision. I don't understand this antipathy to osteopaths. They get MORE training than MDs.
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)I was still taking my high school son to a pediatrician, when he somehow injured himself at a basketball game -- and was complaining of severe chest pain. I called his doctor and she wasn't in that day, but one of her associates could see us right away -- an osteopath.
Because of this doctor's training he was able to both diagnose and treat my son in a few minutes. After hearing my son's story, listening to his heart, and gently feeling his back, he said that my son's apparent chest pain was referred pain from his back. My son had been growing so quickly (true) that his back muscles weren't quite able to hold his spine in place (I'm misstating this, I'm sure, more than a decade later, but you get the idea). So something had gotten out of alignment. While my son sat in the chair, the doctor asked him to turn his head, and then reached back and quickly did something and it was all fixed. My son went from trembling with pain to completely fine in a couple seconds. Then the doctor gave my son instructions for some back strengthening exercises he could do at home.
The problem with his spine happened a couple times after that, my son told me, but somehow he could fix it himself, after the doctor did it the first time.
We were lucky that my son's particular problem dovetailed perfectly with the doctor-on-call's special expertise.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)loved him and miss him. I go to Cleveland Clinic now...a premier medical center but I like my DO much better. He also saved my depressed daughter when MD psychiatrist almost killed her. DO's take medical boards just like anyone else...Some states you get to choose if you want to be a DO or and MD.
Staph
(6,467 posts)their care of me truly varies. The specialists only see me as a nail for their particular hammer. The oncologist sees me as a cancer, the nephrologist sees me as a pair of kidneys, and the rheumatologist sees me as a whole big bag of joints.
But my primary care doc sees me as the whole person. She looks at all of the reports from the others and asks me questions that tie that information together. And she is concerned with my mental health, too, how all of my health issues are effecting my life. From what I have read of osteopaths, she has the same sort of mind-and-body-together attitude. She's one of the best physicians I've ever had.
pnwmom
(110,261 posts)rather than a collection of parts.
Jersey Devil
(10,833 posts)He retired or I'd still be going to him.