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jezebel321

(278 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:02 PM Oct 2020

I was wrong about Vice President Biden.

During the primary I was a supporter of Mayor Pete Buttigieg and also liked Sen. Kamala Harris. I posted several times here that I thought the party voters were making a huge mistake in picking VP Biden. My husband and I are in our late 30s/early 40s and we were convinced that the party needed new blood and that Vice President Biden was too old and out of touch to take on Trump and win. I liked personally VP Biden but thought he was too weak and old school to best Trump. I thought there would be no excitement for him and I was convinced he would lose.

I was wrong. Very wrong.

Not only has VP Biden shown he is far from weak or too old, he is proving himself to be the singular best person for this moment in time to take on Trump. His sincerity, strength of character, steadiness, and decency are exactly what this country needs right now. While I still love Buttigieg, Harris, Warren and frankly most of the other Democratic Primary opponents Biden faced I dont think any of them could be quite the perfect contrast to Trump that VP Biden has shown himself to be.

I always knew I was voting for whoever the Democratic Candidate would be. When VP Biden became that candidate I thought I would vote with no excitement. I was so wrong. I am very excited to vote for VP Biden to become the next President, the man for the moment, the man I truly believe this country needs. I hope there are a lot of voters out there like me.

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I was wrong about Vice President Biden. (Original Post) jezebel321 Oct 2020 OP
I hope so, too. Sogo Oct 2020 #1
I had the same reaction. NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #51
Same here... Raster Oct 2020 #100
The Democratic Party has a deep bench... ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2020 #2
Me too DownriverDem Oct 2020 #81
100%. -- the argument I was making from the beginning stopdiggin Oct 2020 #108
Great post, Jezebel. TY sheshe2 Oct 2020 #3
Trump got himself impeached trying to take Joe out. jaysunb Oct 2020 #4
I was for someone else also. But Joe is who the nation needs now. LiberalArkie Oct 2020 #5
Not only that, Biden said explicitly in his town hall yesterday that he is a transitional president Claustrum Oct 2020 #6
kamala harris 2024 ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #32
Biden's not running for re-election? Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #37
Please see the link below. warmfeet Oct 2020 #57
Signals to aides??? :rofl: Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #67
been refuted at least a number of times stopdiggin Oct 2020 #109
Biden has made it clear he's open to re-election. I think he doesn't over think it. Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #77
That was very effective PatSeg Oct 2020 #38
He's the anti Trump which is why I backed him from day 1 BlueNProud Oct 2020 #7
I think there are many voters out there just like you! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2020 #8
Biden wasn't my 1st pick either mercuryblues Oct 2020 #9
So true. Zoonart Oct 2020 #16
"We Democrats have a really deep bench. They have a really deep swamp. " Best post of the day!!! BComplex Oct 2020 #20
Awww... thanks. Zoonart Oct 2020 #21
I was so happy when my ballot got here. I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2020 #10
he's not Trump Skittles Oct 2020 #11
I am over 65 and was a Mayor Pete voter.... Zoonart Oct 2020 #12
I just filled in my ballot for Biden/Harris and other Dems! ananda Oct 2020 #13
Brava! babylonsister Oct 2020 #14
I wasn't so sure early on. chriscan64 Oct 2020 #15
K & R. obnoxiousdrunk Oct 2020 #17
I would have voted for whoever won the primary. But I felt from the beginning that Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #18
I was concerned about his age but I always thought he had the best chance against Trump MakeTXBlue2020 Oct 2020 #19
Welcome to DU! PatSeg Oct 2020 #45
I was always all in for Joe. I figured if he was good enough for Obama, he was good enough Dream Girl Oct 2020 #22
Great original post oswaldactedalone Oct 2020 #23
Yes PatSeg Oct 2020 #47
Biden was always my first and only choice. Dem2theMax Oct 2020 #24
That is so true PatSeg Oct 2020 #52
"There is a lot of mess to be cleaned up." Dem2theMax Oct 2020 #55
I have a feeling he is the type PatSeg Oct 2020 #59
100 % agree with everything you just wrote. Dem2theMax Oct 2020 #61
I know how you feel PatSeg Oct 2020 #66
This is only the second most terrible time in our country's history. NNadir Oct 2020 #86
In my personal living history. I've only been around since the mid-50's. Dem2theMax Oct 2020 #90
Yeah, that works better. Things are terrible, but they've been worse. We baby boomers... NNadir Oct 2020 #92
My parents were children of the depression. Both were World War II veterans. Dem2theMax Oct 2020 #93
That's why he was always my number two. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2020 #98
Beautifully said MaryMagdaline Oct 2020 #25
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Oct 2020 #26
It takes a very honorable person to say what you just did! Butterflylady Oct 2020 #27
Very nicely written. awesomerwb1 Oct 2020 #28
I was swayed by that Naples golf shuttle bus last November Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #29
Me. mountain grammy Oct 2020 #30
Wow.. TY for that, jezebel.. from someone Cha Oct 2020 #31
Your awareness and vision are commendable! Your story is one of coming full circle. I needed to Ninga Oct 2020 #33
Biden's speech today at Gettysburg was *pretty* good. CountMyVote4Reality Oct 2020 #34
I concur proud patriot Oct 2020 #35
I think Nancy Pelosi was the best example stillcool Oct 2020 #36
I am one of those voters... dixiechiken1 Oct 2020 #39
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2020 #40
Thank you for this Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #41
I went Buttigieg-Sanders-Biden. I have no regrets. Laelth Oct 2020 #42
His Gettysburg speech today is amazing. I agree with you, and proud of somaticexperiencing Oct 2020 #43
I have found that a lot of Democratic politicians PatSeg Oct 2020 #56
Given all the devastation Trump has visited on so many government agencies, tanyev Oct 2020 #44
Who knew he'd be Kryptonite to imPOTUS? SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2020 #46
Seriously PatSeg Oct 2020 #54
I agree with you. I was a supporter of Elizabeth Warren, Liberty Belle Oct 2020 #48
Now that we've seen what inexperience looks like Mr.Bill Oct 2020 #49
Well said. honest.abe Oct 2020 #50
During the primaries, I'd have been ecstatic if Warren won...so smart, inventive, caring, just Karadeniz Oct 2020 #53
Biden is fundamentally a good person. Caliman73 Oct 2020 #58
Me too, Jezebel. Just came to the same realization Hortensis Oct 2020 #60
What an excellent "mea culpa," for want of a better description. BobTheSubgenius Oct 2020 #62
I was undecided and then for Kamala so I'm utterly content. nolabear Oct 2020 #63
I don't think you're alone, jezebel peggysue2 Oct 2020 #64
I know a lot of people who moonscape Oct 2020 #65
I loved him from the start flamingdem Oct 2020 #68
Biden's speech today was amazing Gothmog Oct 2020 #69
Feel the same matelize Oct 2020 #70
Agree and his choice of Harris will confirm just how good a decision maker he is. grantcart Oct 2020 #71
Biden is a good person. patphil Oct 2020 #72
Thank you for this beautiful post MustLoveBeagles Oct 2020 #73
Yes, I hope so too!! relayerbob Oct 2020 #74
I've always liked him. Jarqui Oct 2020 #75
Turns out all his past painful tragedies, and ability to keep moving on,makes him the perfect choice crimycarny Oct 2020 #76
Joe Biden is the man for the moment for many reasons Joinfortmill Oct 2020 #78
Biden is a good, decent man. Yes, he has a good platform and a great running mate. PatrickforO Oct 2020 #79
I firmly believe that Pete Buttigieg is the future of our Party FakeNoose Oct 2020 #80
Dear God. Please protect him. Texin Oct 2020 #82
Thank you everyone for your replies, I did not expect so many. I really just jezebel321 Oct 2020 #83
I did not go in with the thought that it was the party deciding the primary winner. LiberalFighter Oct 2020 #84
Count me in. I was pretty much exactly in the same boat. n/t. NNadir Oct 2020 #85
I wanted the ticket we have before Joe announced. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #87
From the beginning. . . . . . tenisfin Oct 2020 #88
Totally agree. I look & see the total chaos/Indecency of trump. Then I see Biden & he is calming, Vivienne235729 Oct 2020 #89
Another huge Pete supporter here. You speak for me. Celerity Oct 2020 #91
The Electoral College means that moderate white voters radius777 Oct 2020 #94
He's the real deal. Plus, he has been a public servant for years. He knows. Progressive Jones Oct 2020 #95
You've said it perfectly. n/t Lymond Oct 2020 #96
There are voters across the spectrum similar to you. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2020 #97
All of that and.. greymattermom Oct 2020 #99
I've always been a Biden fan, even when he ran for Prez. I was thrilled when he was chosen for VP! napi21 Oct 2020 #101
i hope my 18 yr old first time grand daughter Bernie lover feels the same way... samnsara Oct 2020 #102
Thanks for posting this! highplainsdem Oct 2020 #103
Me, too! cilla4progress Oct 2020 #104
Yes, I doubted him also but he is doing a good job campaigning. KWR65 Oct 2020 #105
Other than being xxqqqzme Oct 2020 #106
My first choice was Kamala and my second choice was Elizabeth karin_sj Oct 2020 #107
I Was Biden Supporter From Day One WiffenPoof Oct 2020 #110

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
2. The Democratic Party has a deep bench...
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:05 PM
Oct 2020

But I was for Joe from the start for all the reasons you so eloquently mentioned.

I think Joe has surprised a lot of people, especially amongst Republicans.

stopdiggin

(11,295 posts)
108. 100%. -- the argument I was making from the beginning
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:05 PM
Oct 2020

for 2020 (and against Trump) -- Biden was the perfect candidate.
(and, I too, really liked a lot of the others in the field -- but Biden is the man of the hour)

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
4. Trump got himself impeached trying to take Joe out.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:06 PM
Oct 2020

That should have told you something back then, but good on you for being a true patriot.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
6. Not only that, Biden said explicitly in his town hall yesterday that he is a transitional president
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:08 PM
Oct 2020

He desperately wants to pass the torch to our generation (I am in the same age group as you). He just saw what Trump is and knows that we need the experience that he has to fix the mess that Trump left behind. Be comfort that Biden will get the younger generations into his administration and get them the experience needed to take the torch from him.

Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
77. Biden has made it clear he's open to re-election. I think he doesn't over think it.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:15 PM
Oct 2020

He’s going to have so much going forward. He’ll do the right thing, this we can count on!

PatSeg

(47,388 posts)
38. That was very effective
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:37 PM
Oct 2020

and I think it could help a lot of younger voters understand why we need him now. I am sure he will surround himself with many extraordinary and talented people. I am very optimistic about a Biden administration.

BlueNProud

(1,048 posts)
7. He's the anti Trump which is why I backed him from day 1
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:08 PM
Oct 2020

The juxtaposition between this decent, empathetic person and the vile selfishness of Dump is so glaring.

Its refreshing and calming listening to him speak.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,580 posts)
8. I think there are many voters out there just like you!
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:08 PM
Oct 2020

I had similar feelings about him too, early on. I too supported Mayor Pete, even though I was well aware he would be a long shot.

But Joe has shown that his experiences and activity over his life will mean that he'll be a great president. I will vote for him and Kamala Harris with enthusiasm!



mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
9. Biden wasn't my 1st pick either
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:09 PM
Oct 2020

The one thing I was certain of, almost all of our candidates could tackle trump. I would of happily voted for any of those candidates.

I hope to be able to vote for them in the future.

republicans have Ivanka and Jared to look forward to.

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
20. "We Democrats have a really deep bench. They have a really deep swamp. " Best post of the day!!!
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:15 PM
Oct 2020

You nailed it!!

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
10. I was so happy when my ballot got here.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:09 PM
Oct 2020

I read the instructions.
I filled in the ovals for a
straight Dem ticket and I felt joy. Called my sister and she came and took my ballot to the drop box .

I felt a happy joy all day after that. Go,go,go Joe!
For the win!

Zoonart

(11,847 posts)
12. I am over 65 and was a Mayor Pete voter....
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:09 PM
Oct 2020

I was adamant that Biden was too old and we needed a younger candidate.

I am all in for Joe now. I also think he is the man for the moment. My friends and I are all ready to crawl across glass to vote for this. man and for Kamala.

Then... onward to a better future for every single American.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
15. I wasn't so sure early on.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:11 PM
Oct 2020

It seemed to me that Biden would be like Hubert Humphrey, came close to being president, never quite made it but still had a lifetime of contribution. You could not design a better man to be the Anti-Trump and step into this moment. I guess it was fate that kept him available for this year's election.

Demsrule86

(68,542 posts)
18. I would have voted for whoever won the primary. But I felt from the beginning that
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:12 PM
Oct 2020

Biden was the one to take Trump on. I have always loved Biden.

MakeTXBlue2020

(131 posts)
19. I was concerned about his age but I always thought he had the best chance against Trump
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:14 PM
Oct 2020

And for many of the reasons you mentioned. Sincerity, strength of character, decency, etc. Not that the other candidates didn't possess those characteristics but I always felt if Biden had been the nominee in '16 we would have won and largely avoided the mess we're in. Early on in the primaries I was nervous Sanders (nothing against him--just felt he was too liberal too win in the general) was going to win, and when Biden finally got going it was a major relief. And now he's maintained one of the most consistent leads ever in a presidential election. We do indeed need his calm leadership now more than ever. Take it home Uncle Joe!

PatSeg

(47,388 posts)
45. Welcome to DU!
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:45 PM
Oct 2020

I have been a big supporter of Joe Biden for many years, though there were times when I thought his time had passed. Now I believe he really is the perfect person for this particular time and that he will pave the way for more progressive policies in the future.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
22. I was always all in for Joe. I figured if he was good enough for Obama, he was good enough
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:18 PM
Oct 2020

For me. Trump would have beaten anyone else (pre COVID).

oswaldactedalone

(3,490 posts)
23. Great original post
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:19 PM
Oct 2020

Well said. Joe has been a pleasant surprise. Going back to the video showing Lindsey Graham praising Biden for being such a great person, I now fully understand what he meant. #GoJoe!

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
24. Biden was always my first and only choice.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:20 PM
Oct 2020

I would have happily voted for anyone with a 'D' after their name, but Biden is who I wanted from the beginning.

I've said it on here before. He's ready to hit the ground running on day one. He doesn't need any classes in Presidenting 101. He doesn't need to be introduced to the leaders of other countries. He already knows them. And they already trust him.

He is the perfect candidate for this most terrible time in our country's history.

PatSeg

(47,388 posts)
52. That is so true
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:50 PM
Oct 2020

There will be no training period for Joe. World leaders know and respect him and he will choose experienced, competent people to serve in his administration. There is a lot mess to be cleaned up.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
55. "There is a lot of mess to be cleaned up."
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:55 PM
Oct 2020

Isn't that an overwhelming thought?

I'm one of those people who always makes lists of the things I need to do. If Joe has my habits, he must have 10 million lists ready to go right now.

I often wonder at how long it will take to fix the damage that has been done in this country. It's going to be an enormous job, but I know Joe is up for the challenge. And having Kamala Harris by his side, icing on the cake!

PatSeg

(47,388 posts)
59. I have a feeling he is the type
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:07 PM
Oct 2020

of person to make lists and he also is someone who will be comfortable delegating responsibilities to other equally competent people. I've been watching Joe for years and it looks like his mind is always working overtime, but his mouth can't always keep up.

I'm really getting optimistic, though I am still concerned about how much more damaged Trump can do between now and January.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
61. 100 % agree with everything you just wrote.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:12 PM
Oct 2020

I am trying to keep my optimism at a realistic level, but we need hope.

I haven't had a decent night's sleep for a very long time. I'm 64 years old and I've been having nightmares as though I were a child.

I want Obama to come tuck me into bed at night and tell me that President Joe will be taking care of us very soon!

PatSeg

(47,388 posts)
66. I know how you feel
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:30 PM
Oct 2020

It has been such a stressful four years and I've only started to feel optimistic recently. Even then, I can't relax until Joe is actually elected, though I will still be leery until Trump is out of the White House. Most of the country seems to be suffering from PTSD.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
86. This is only the second most terrible time in our country's history.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:35 AM
Oct 2020

The worst time in our country's history was the American Civil War, and arguably, all the time before it, since slavery existed here.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
90. In my personal living history. I've only been around since the mid-50's.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:00 AM
Oct 2020

Does that work better for you?

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
92. Yeah, that works better. Things are terrible, but they've been worse. We baby boomers...
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:02 AM
Oct 2020

...are a little to fond of gazing at our navels I think.

There is a broader world than the one we generally know.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
93. My parents were children of the depression. Both were World War II veterans.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:10 AM
Oct 2020

And they both came from very poor families. I grew up with a lot of their personal stories. So I know it has been a lot worse.

And I have come to value history much more than I did when I was in school. (Hated school.) Always trying to learn more. I think I am just exhausted, along with everyone else, over the past four years and what we have been put through.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
98. That's why he was always my number two.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 07:41 AM
Oct 2020

During the primary season, my enthusiasm was for Elizabeth Warren. But he was definitely my next choice. With his temperament and experience, he could president in his sleep better than most people awake.

Butterflylady

(3,542 posts)
27. It takes a very honorable person to say what you just did!
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:23 PM
Oct 2020

And I commend you and thank you.

With that said I was for Joe even before Obama. I just knew when people got to know him better and the kind of human being he is they too would come to love him. I not too long ago read his book, 'Promis Me Dad', and all I can say is, wow
If you ever get a chance to read it, it will be worth your while.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
29. I was swayed by that Naples golf shuttle bus last November
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:25 PM
Oct 2020

Hard to believe that was nearly a year ago. Bus load of older whites. Naples is very conservative. Golf demographics are heavily right wing. To my amazement, maybe 15 of them began discussing politics, and specifically the Democratic debate from one night earlier. The consensus was that they could support a Democrat above Trump, but only if it was Biden or Bloomberg.

All the others were announced as, "too far out there," meaning too far liberal. That "too far out there" phrase in particular drew loud unanimous agreement.

I was still aligned with Klobuchar at that point, but realistically I began hoping for Biden or Bloomberg. Anyone but Bernie Sanders. He was the epitome of "too far out there" and would collapse every race in Florida 2020, plus send the Cuban community against Democrats for at least a full generation. I can't tell you how scared I was of Sanders being the nominee.

IMO, Bloomberg would have done great against Trump also. Obviously it would have been a totally different type of race. I'll settle for this smooth running classy Biden campaign. But Bloomberg spending a billion plus to viciously define Trump every day of the race would have been fun also. Plus imagine Bloomberg jumping on that story of Trump's phony wealth, and $421 million debt.

Biden has found a strong voice and really impressed me. I was worried he'd be the Democratic version of Bob Dole in 1996...good guy but not special enough to be elected president.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
31. Wow.. TY for that, jezebel.. from someone
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:26 PM
Oct 2020

who was for Biden since his Launch Vid on April 25, 2019.. who never wavered through thick and bloody thin.

Well done!

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
33. Your awareness and vision are commendable! Your story is one of coming full circle. I needed to
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:28 PM
Oct 2020

hear from you today and didn’t know it until I read your OP.





34. Biden's speech today at Gettysburg was *pretty* good.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:31 PM
Oct 2020

Maybe his best thus far in making his case to be our next POTUS.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
36. I think Nancy Pelosi was the best example
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:34 PM
Oct 2020

of why working knowledge, is an important ingredient when taking on a difficult, complex job. You can't put a price on knowing your way around, knowing the games that are played, and the rules of the road. I also think their mentorship of others bodes well for the future.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
39. I am one of those voters...
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:37 PM
Oct 2020

I was pulling for Elizabeth Warren. I, too, always knew I was going to "vote blue no matter who." I also didn't expect to be this excited - not just excited about voting against tRump, but excited about voting for Biden. But I am. 😊

His decency and compassion are like water in the desert. We have been without these basic human qualities for so long, they're like a mirage... except they're not. I also think Biden's hands-on Executive experience will allow him to hit the ground running in rebuilding our government. This is no time for OJT. He knows firsthand what a well-functioning government looks like and how it's supposed to operate.

Joe Biden truly is the perfect candidate for this moment in time. GO, JOE!


 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
41. Thank you for this
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:38 PM
Oct 2020

It is a shame that there are still people here on DU who are holding out for their first choice.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
42. I went Buttigieg-Sanders-Biden. I have no regrets.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:42 PM
Oct 2020

The party chose well this time. I agree with your assessment and your sentiment.

-Laelth

43. His Gettysburg speech today is amazing. I agree with you, and proud of
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:44 PM
Oct 2020

us and proud of our candidate.

Yes, I run way more Progressive than Joe has seemed over the years, but this guy is rising to the occasion in a wonderful way. And we need to follow through as well, voting and volunteering and organizing and donating if possible. Love to all.

Here is that speech.

[link:

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PatSeg

(47,388 posts)
56. I have found that a lot of Democratic politicians
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:57 PM
Oct 2020

are as liberal as the electorate will allow. I have no doubt that Obama would have been a far more progressive president if he had a congress that would back him up.

tanyev

(42,544 posts)
44. Given all the devastation Trump has visited on so many government agencies,
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:44 PM
Oct 2020

it's a really good idea to get someone with all of Biden's experience in there who a.) has a vast knowledge of how our government should work and b.) can bring back a lot of people who know how to run those agencies.

PatSeg

(47,388 posts)
54. Seriously
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:53 PM
Oct 2020

Who would have thought? Trump just can't take him down. All his nasty tricks don't work with Joe.

Liberty Belle

(9,533 posts)
48. I agree with you. I was a supporter of Elizabeth Warren,
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:47 PM
Oct 2020

and there were others I initially thought would be better to fire up voters and reinvigorate the party.

But after his town hall last night and especially his Gettysburg speech today, one of the best I've ever heard, I believe Joe Biden is absolutely the right candidate for the divisive times that we are in. I hope the TV networks will air this, over and over again.

Karadeniz

(22,493 posts)
53. During the primaries, I'd have been ecstatic if Warren won...so smart, inventive, caring, just
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:52 PM
Oct 2020

Perfect to me. But my stated preference was Biden. I stated then that this country was raw and bleeding from the unending hatefulness, the lies, the corruption. Biden was the best prescription to our illness. Of course, things have played out much worse... protests for justice, assault on civilians, bribing Ukraine, a corrupt DoJ, Covid. No one could have foreseen how desperately we'd need a seasoned politician, a large soul, compassion, empathy, willing to listen to his more progressive opponents, of an admirable character that sensible Republicans can appreciate...thanks to all the Republican groups getting out the message that Biden is better than Trump. Biden has a universal appeal that Sanders or Warren or Buttigieg or Bloomberg or Bevo wouldn't have had. Biden has primaried before. It seems like it was meant to be that he was still available at this moment in time when everything about him is what the country needs.

Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
58. Biden is fundamentally a good person.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:03 PM
Oct 2020

He was not my first choice either. I never thought he was weak or old. I just don't line up with his policies as much as I did with other candidates.

What I like most about Biden is that he listens. He is just a good person and everyone who knows him or has met him, likes him. For better or worse, he is the "anti-Hillary" and I say that knowing that what happened to Hillary Clinton was completely wrong and all about lies and sexism. Trump has no way of attacking Biden. All the smears and lies that he has made up, have no affect on Biden because Biden is a known quantity and everyone knows that Trump's lies are LIES.

Remember that Hillary had similar negatives to Trump. COMPLETELY UNDESERVED but still... Biden doesn't have that problem.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
60. Me too, Jezebel. Just came to the same realization
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:10 PM
Oct 2020

somewhat earlier is all, if not as early. I didn't have today's internet 35 years ago. (Congrats, of course. Some minds lock up young, and...that's it for them.)





BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
62. What an excellent "mea culpa," for want of a better description.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:14 PM
Oct 2020

I am happy to say that Joe Biden turned out to be exactly who I thought he was....although maybe a tad better. I was a little downhearted when I heard so much talk about dementia, and similar, and while I didn't believe it at all, I was afraid millions would.

I was actually a little chagrined when I read the reason for his conversational pauses and slow delivery, because they had me wondering a bit. A post by a DUer set me straight, and I hope a lot of others, too.

I wish he was in his 60's, or even in his late 50's...but hell. I wish I was in my 50's too.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
63. I was undecided and then for Kamala so I'm utterly content.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:17 PM
Oct 2020

Thanks for the support and humility. We need that now.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
64. I don't think you're alone, jezebel
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:20 PM
Oct 2020

I've read quite a few people across the board on varying and different sites express pretty much the same thing. That's all for the good because it means Joe Biden has effectively shown the electorate what kind of man he is, what sort of leader he is and will become and what a stark contrast that is to Donald Trump's chaos machine. I think most Americans are exhausted by Trump's nonsense, genuinely worried about his state of mind and inability to take on even the simple tasks of governing.

Joe Biden is an old hand at this. He doesn't attempt to hide his age or make excuses for it. But with that age, he brings the experience of governing we'll need to pick up the pieces and build the joint back better. With Kamala Harris at his side, he's tipping his hat to a new generation of leaders, to women and people of color. I expect we'll see this underscored when he names his cabinet candidates. Mayor Pete is already on the transition team and I fully expect all our candidates to have meaty roles in the way forward.

We have a stable of really excellent people. Again, I fully expect Joe Biden to tap all the talent and give credit where credit is due. Because he doesn't have an ego to protect.

It's going to be a huge job to repair, restore and rebuild this country while pushing energetically toward the future. Biden has said he sees himself as a transition candidate. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if Biden is far bolder than people expect him to be in resolving problems, refashioning a more just society and demanding a leadership role in healthcare, immigration, climate change, gun regulation, etc. We know he's a decent man. People are beginning to understand he's precisely the leader we need.

This is Joe Biden's moment. I just know in my gut he's going to work his heart out. For everyone.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
65. I know a lot of people who
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:21 PM
Oct 2020

feel the same. Jon Stewart spoke about the same with Colbert some time ago. He said Warren aligned more with his policy but that the country was grieving, we have lost so much, and the Biden is the singular person who understands grief and who we need in this moment.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
68. I loved him from the start
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:48 PM
Oct 2020

though not in 2016. Now I wish he'd run then. He's more progressive than Obama and will go down in history as one of the most beloved Presidents imo.

matelize

(19 posts)
70. Feel the same
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:52 PM
Oct 2020

I am in the same generation as Joe Biden, and I shared the same thoughts. I Felt we needed to pass the mantle to a new generation with a more progressive agenda. Now I realize how Joe is the right person for this time in history. He has met the moment, and his inherent decency is the perfect contrast to 45. He just keep getting stronger and I feel so proud to have him as our candidate.

patphil

(6,169 posts)
72. Biden is a good person.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:55 PM
Oct 2020

A good family man, good Christian, and all around good leader.
He represents everything Trump is not.

A classic case of Biden's good vs. Trump's evil.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,587 posts)
73. Thank you for this beautiful post
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:07 PM
Oct 2020

It seems like the primaries were a lifetime ago. I initially supported Beto but he was pretty much tied with Joe. When Beto dropped out I switched to Biden without hesitation. I liked most of the candidates including Mayor Pete. It all worked out in the end. Joe is the president we need now.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
74. Yes, I hope so too!!
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:08 PM
Oct 2020

We had a solid field of candidates and in the end, things sorted themselves out quite well, IMO. Many of those folks will be advisors or Cabinet members.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
75. I've always liked him.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:10 PM
Oct 2020

He's always been a good human being.

He's going to use his experience to hire good people to help him.
Age is not likely to be as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.

The country needs the type of person Joe Biden is.
He respects the traditions. He has empathy for all. He has unwavering integrity.
He'll do what he thinks is best for the country - every time.
We might not always agree with him but we won't be wringing our hands with sinister sub plots about what he's really up to.

At this moment in history, we're lucky to have him.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
76. Turns out all his past painful tragedies, and ability to keep moving on,makes him the perfect choice
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:14 PM
Oct 2020

I was a major Pete Buttigieg supporter for the same reasons you were. I’ve always loved and admired Joe Biden but I felt his time was past. I remember telling my husband I wish Joe hadn’t decided to run because I didn’t want to see him suffer the pain of defeat after having suffered so much pain in his life already. At the time I didn’t think he’d make it through the primaries, let alone where he is now.

But this was all pre-COVID and pre-George Floyd. Our whole Nation is grieving, and if anyone can help show us to how we get to the other side with our souls intact it’s Joe Biden. He’s been through it more than once.

Joinfortmill

(14,413 posts)
78. Joe Biden is the man for the moment for many reasons
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:15 PM
Oct 2020

Not the least of which is, many, many Trump voters will vote for Joe. They know him, they like him, and they trust him. He'll help heal the country and the others will have their chance.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
79. Biden is a good, decent man. Yes, he has a good platform and a great running mate.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:15 PM
Oct 2020

But the biggest thing this republic needs right now is a good, decent, kind, compassionate man who will restore our national soul and build back better. Biden is definitely the candidate for the time. Look at how many early voters there are.

FakeNoose

(32,626 posts)
80. I firmly believe that Pete Buttigieg is the future of our Party
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:33 PM
Oct 2020

... however I'm certain that Joe Biden is the man we need RIGHT NOW!

We're so lucky to have him as our candidate and he'll be a great President when all is said and done. I also believe he'll bring as many of the younger Democrats into the next Administration as he can, because he gets it. He knows how important it is to build the future and guide it with the boundless energy and the best ideas of the younger people who will live it.

The young people (including many who voted for Pete) have the greatest stake in shaping the new government because it's going to become yours soon enough.


jezebel321

(278 posts)
83. Thank you everyone for your replies, I did not expect so many. I really just
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:20 PM
Oct 2020

wanted to document my realization that I underestimated VP Biden and seeing now how perfectly positioned he is for this moment.
I'm glad to see so many others feel the same way.
I can't wait for November 3!! Time to rescue this country.

LiberalFighter

(50,865 posts)
84. I did not go in with the thought that it was the party deciding the primary winner.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:59 PM
Oct 2020

Regardless of what others might try to say it is the voters that decide. And that is based on what the candidates do to help win for themselves.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
87. I wanted the ticket we have before Joe announced.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:39 AM
Oct 2020

Felt they were the perfect pair to bring in a new America.

Feel more strongly now.

tenisfin

(36 posts)
88. From the beginning. . . . . .
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:46 AM
Oct 2020

I subscribed to Axelrod's theory that the nominee from the other party ends up being the one who is most opposite the other candidate. For me, that was obviously Biden. He's a grown-up, kind, compassionate, experienced. . . .he's literally everything stable genius is not. You can go down the line of the other Dem candidates and in each case, Biden is MORE opposite than they were! I never doubted that Joe would be the candidate.

Vivienne235729

(3,383 posts)
89. Totally agree. I look & see the total chaos/Indecency of trump. Then I see Biden & he is calming,
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:51 AM
Oct 2020

Decent, and someone w a steady hand and experience. We need this so much right now. I find VP Biden so reassuring and calming in this nightmare. Kind of like Obama.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
94. The Electoral College means that moderate white voters
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:16 AM
Oct 2020

in swing states are who really elect the president. This is why Biden is suited for this, and he's also able to take back some of the votes Trump got from us in 2016.

That being said, aside from Sanders, the other top candidates were all well within the mainstream of American liberal thought, and any could easily win the presidency if the popular vote was the determining factor.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
95. He's the real deal. Plus, he has been a public servant for years. He knows.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:17 AM
Oct 2020

He knows what's best for the nation at this point in time.
He knows that today's problems don't disappear when he's sworn into office.
He knows there are boatloads of work to be done to get this mess under control.
He knows that behind him, the younger Dems do need to take the wheel.
He knows who the future is.

Biden has the experience for right here, right now. He knows who the right people to make up his team are.

I'm older (61). I, too, liked the younger candidates, as well as Bernie and Elizabeth.
All the while, though, I was thinking about Joe's experience in politics and governing.

I was happy he was the choice, in the end. And, I'm very happy that Harris is his running mate.

It's going to work.

GET OUT THE VOTE !

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
97. There are voters across the spectrum similar to you.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 07:39 AM
Oct 2020

I live in a county that went 16 points for Trump. He'll win here again, but I predict a single digit margin. And in a swing state, that type of decline could make all the difference.

Within 500 steps of my house (I have a FitBit), there are:

At least five Trump voters who are not just voting against Trump, they are excited to vote for Biden. One is particularly vocal and an absolute joy to talk to as his enthusiasm seems to radiate from every atom in his body. The zeal of the convert. LOL!

Three new voters (18 and 19 years old) who really really wanted a younger and more progressive candidate are all in for Biden. One is text-banking and one is writing postcards.

One Gary Johnson voter who thought he was going to hold his nose to vote for Biden and disclosed to me just last week how much he thinks Biden is the perfect person at the perfect time.

I have yet to encounter anyone who did not vote for Trump in 2016 who plans to vote for him in 2020. I know they're likely to keep a much lower profile if they exist, but instinct tells me if you weren't charmed by him in 2016 there's not much there to charm you now.

I really wanted Elizabeth Warren, but have also come to see that Biden is the perfect contrast to Trump. And that may be exactly what we needed. I adore Joe and as odd as this sounds, really really want to see Dr. Biden as First Lady. No clue why as First Ladies have never really held much of my attention until Michelle Obama.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
99. All of that and..
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:06 AM
Oct 2020

he knows so many people and can fill positions rapidly with ethical and competent people who will start rebuilding the government. He will also let them take credit for their accomplishments and won't try to suck all the air out of the room.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
101. I've always been a Biden fan, even when he ran for Prez. I was thrilled when he was chosen for VP!
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:33 AM
Oct 2020

Now, I'm really happy to vote for him for President! I believe Joe is a Dem that some Pubs will vote for. They would never have voted for Hillary.

samnsara

(17,615 posts)
102. i hope my 18 yr old first time grand daughter Bernie lover feels the same way...
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:11 PM
Oct 2020

...too bad gramma cant stand over her when she fills out her mail in ballot

cilla4progress

(24,725 posts)
104. Me, too!
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

He keeps getting better! Or maybe we are hearing him better.

His timing and choices are impeccable. Including of course Kamala.

I attribute this to his two top Black women campaign aides / execs: Karine Jean Pierre and Symone Sanders!

It's a beautiful thing to see a person step into his moment. This has been so gratifying on every level! I'm also so happy for the Obamas!! And for us - to fantasize about their role in a Biden Administration - whatEVER it may be!!

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
106. Other than being
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:17 PM
Oct 2020

an Elizabeth Warren supporter, everything you wrote describes my journey as well. I think choosing Kamala Harris is the perfect balance too. The Democratic campaign needed a bulldog to nip at the rethug ankles. Kamala does that!

karin_sj

(808 posts)
107. My first choice was Kamala and my second choice was Elizabeth
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:03 PM
Oct 2020

But when Biden got the nomination, I was very happy about it. As time goes on, I've realized that he was always the best choice. That's why Trump was so worried about him and tried to damage him right from the start.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
110. I Was Biden Supporter From Day One
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:44 PM
Oct 2020

Yep...I was a Biden supporter even over Obama. I wrote several essays (one published on the Biden site in 2008) in support of Biden. I wanted Biden for President and Obama for VP.

Biden is the very definition of “decency.” I too was afraid that he lost some of the fire in his belly. But as time has gone on over the past couple of months, I realize that he has become an even more determined candidate.

Here is a man that took the train to work everyday. He was the second poorest Senator among their ranks. He was never in it for the money.

With Joe, what you see is what you get. He is a truly genuine individual. He is sincere, empathetic and he is in touch with the common man.

His story is our story. He is a natural leader and I don’t think he will get pushed around by ANYONE.

I would not be surprised if Biden becomes one of the truly great Presidents in our lifetime.

I am excited to vote for him to send this Carnival Barker of a President to hell.

Go get ‘em Joe. Your destiny is waiting for you.

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