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royable

(1,426 posts)
2. I have a feeling he's made a deal with Putin to weaken, divide and destroy the country
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:34 PM
Oct 2020

just as much as he possibly can before being thrown from office, in exchange for his Russian loans being forgiven.

moonscape

(5,653 posts)
7. I hope the Biden admin makes
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:47 PM
Oct 2020

Putin pay a very very high price for the entire cluster.

You think Putin would actually forgive the loans? I’m not so sure. He could get 45 to do his bidding on blackmail and with carrots alone.

 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
8. I'm going to say something here that I can't even believe I am saying
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:01 PM
Oct 2020

I watched that video of Trump on the balcony. I despise Trump for all the disgusting things he has done to this country and especially the mishandling of the COVID pandemic in this country. It grates at my very should because I lost my spouse to this virus at a time when Trump's lying about it made us slow to put into place what may have been life-saving procedures and policies. Yet, on my fourth view of that video I watched closely as he was tasing for breath and I saw the fear in his eyes. It was the same kind of look I saw through a face-time session with my spouse about three weeks before he succumbed to the virus after a four-month battle. I actually felt sad for the orange beast standing on that balcony. I can't explain it but it was the same kind of feeling I get when I see an animal suffering from some kind of injury or debilitating condition.

I know I will never forgive him for what has happened in our country, the division and hate he incited, but I still felt sad. I won't watch that video again because it was more comforting to just go on and remember those nasty videos of him mocking a disabled journalist, or bellowing
,"LOCK HER UP." It's much easier and feels better to despise him which I will do until the day I leave this earth. Just can't understand my self sometimes.

liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
10. You are a better person than I.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:23 PM
Oct 2020

I posted earlier that my dying mom looked like he did in those videos yesterday. Gasping for breath, panic in her eyes, trying to hang on. Then she would be fine for awhile, then I'd see the rising panic and the struggle would start all over again. It was horrific to watch and still gives me nightmares. She wasn't the best mom, but I loved her and she didn't deserve to die like that. I often wake up unable to breathe and it is the worst hell imaginable. I have the type of sleep apnea where my respiratory system actually shuts down as opposed to the obstructive kind, so it takes me about 15 minutes to breathe normally again after an episode, but until then, I have to talk myself down from utter madness until I can get my lungs to take in air again. What my mom went through was so much worse, but the anxiety is off the charts. All you want to do is get a full breath and you can't.

Trump will always turn around and do something really horrible after I allow myself to feel compassion for him. After that, I feel dirty and ashamed, so I've been trying to squelch any compassion for the man whenever it tries to well up and instead focus it on the millions of healthcare workers he's condemned to a living hell, especially with his comments yesterday. I try to focus my compassion on all the families suffering with loved ones in the hospital with Covid, like my co-worker. I try focus my compassion on those who are out of work or are struggling for food because the demonic GOP won't throw the Americans who actually pay taxes a goddamned crumb. Trump essentially condemned 250,000 Americans to horrific deaths. I think about that when I know the living hell that awaits him, and yet, he still won't give a shit as he's gasping for his dying breath.

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