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OneBlueSky

(18,536 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:45 AM Oct 2020

Could Biden/Harris possibly carry all 50 states?

When I saw a post-diagnosis poll that gave the Democratic ticket a 55% to 34%% lead, it put me in mind of the 1984 election when Mondale/Ferrara was defeated by Reagan/Bush. The popular vote was 59-41 for Reagan (who was running for re-election) and Mondale won only the District of Columbia and his home state of Minnesota. If I did the math correctly, that 55-34 Biden lead extrapolates out to 62-38 -- a landslide of historic proportions. And since polls also show Joe leading in all of the supposedly competitive states, could there actually be a 50-state sweep? I know it seems unlikely, but the numbers just keep on improving.

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Could Biden/Harris possibly carry all 50 states? (Original Post) OneBlueSky Oct 2020 OP
No. roamer65 Oct 2020 #1
Not with Utah and especially Wyoming. Eugene Oct 2020 #2
Idaho is more Republican than Utah now I think. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #3
0% chance Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #4
No. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #5
No. regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #6
Not tennessee peacebuzzard Oct 2020 #7
No Offense Willto Oct 2020 #8
Probably dead-on accurate DFW Oct 2020 #10
This has got to be a joke GusFring Oct 2020 #9
thank you . . . :) (n/t) OneBlueSky Oct 2020 #21
Alabama mahina Oct 2020 #11
1932 is the operative model, but even there the EC JCMach1 Oct 2020 #12
1964 was probably the closest to it (having 50 states vs the 1930s) BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #13
Go back through and get into the nitty gritty details of 1932 JCMach1 Oct 2020 #14
My mother was 2 years old in 1932 and was a political science major in college BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #16
No. We went through 30 years of 'liberals are the enemy' on radio and TV Norbert Oct 2020 #15
Absolutely not. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2020 #17
I will be happy with FL and ecstatic with TX Le Roi de Pot Oct 2020 #18
Idaho is basically impossible Renew Deal Oct 2020 #19
The biggest recent landslide might be Roosevelt - Landon at 523 - 8 Klaralven Oct 2020 #20
This is still a close race. You need to understand that. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #22
No, and Reagan wouldn't get 49 states today. carpetbagger Oct 2020 #23

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
1. No.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:48 AM
Oct 2020

The country is way too polarized.

States like AL, MS, KY, TN, ID will be red on Election night.

Even though Biden will probably win, the polarity is going to get even more pronounced.

Eugene

(67,101 posts)
2. Not with Utah and especially Wyoming.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:54 AM
Oct 2020

The two reddest states in the Union.

Polls for Utah are closer than I expected: ~50-40.

Wyoming has Dolt45 around 65%.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
4. 0% chance
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:01 AM
Oct 2020

Some states like Mississippi and Alabama have nearly 50% self-identified conservatives. Others are not far below that, like Louisiana, Oklahoma, Idaho, Utah, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Dakota, Wyoming and I could keep going.

Trump will win many states by double digits.

Republicans have greater potential to win high percentage of states in a wave election due to the basic reality of 9% more conservatives than liberals nationwide, although that gap has been dropping. It was 12-13% when I began following politics in 1992. Not impossible it drops to 8% this cycle. That would really be a jolt to the GOP, especially if ideological shifts are revealed in states like Arizona and Texas

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
5. No.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:03 AM
Oct 2020

There's still smaller, less populated states that will go Trump. They might not impact the popular vote too much but they'll give Trump a few wins in a very landslide election.

regnaD kciN

(27,639 posts)
6. No.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:21 AM
Oct 2020

The Republicans could run the decomposed corpse of Adolf Hitler, and it would still win several Deep South and Great Plains states.

Willto

(301 posts)
8. No Offense
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:41 AM
Oct 2020

But lets not lose our minds here. LOL! No, it's not possible they will win all 50 states. The Republicans could literally nominate a dung beatle and it would for sure win Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Louisiana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho and Utah. It would probably also win Alaska, Arkansas, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Montana, Nebraska, and Oklahoma.

Sad but true.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
10. Probably dead-on accurate
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:52 AM
Oct 2020

Though a miracle could still occur in Kansas and Alaska, MAYBE Montana, but more likely is none of them. Attractive Democratic Senate candidates could help, but it's still a stretch.

BumRushDaShow

(169,752 posts)
13. 1964 was probably the closest to it (having 50 states vs the 1930s)
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:58 AM
Oct 2020

but then Johnson was from TX. Still, it was truly a rout vs Goldwater!

JCMach1

(29,202 posts)
14. Go back through and get into the nitty gritty details of 1932
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:16 AM
Oct 2020

... but I am a political geek from way back.

Of course Trump is more Ahab, than Hoover. So who knows, might be 1984.

BumRushDaShow

(169,752 posts)
16. My mother was 2 years old in 1932 and was a political science major in college
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:22 AM
Oct 2020

so I heard all about FDR (and everything else "politics" and "history" in my household growing up)! She even became a CSPAN junky the day we got cable.

And for comparison - 1932 did not include Alaska and Hawaii. And in terms of total electoral votes, FDR got 472 and Johnson got 486!

Norbert

(7,765 posts)
15. No. We went through 30 years of 'liberals are the enemy' on radio and TV
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:18 AM
Oct 2020

Rush and Hannity, as deplorable as they are, are good at one thing and that is convincing their audience that we are evil. That is what we are up against and it will not just doesn't disappear overnight. There are many out there that think Democrats are worse than Putin. This is how they are conditioned to think.

The 40% trump base are rock solid with people that think like this. I don't think trump will get below the 40% of the vote, even if his mental state continues to deteriorate..

The good news in all of this is I think Biden stands a good chance of getting 35-37 states, especially if he gets anywhere close to 14% more of the popular vote more than trump. That margin of victory needs to come from much more than California, New York, Illinois and the New England states. I wouldn't doubt that states like Montana, Kansas, Missouri and Arkansas could fall Biden's way with a huge margin of victory for Biden. We are winning the war though. 20 years ago I would have thought you were crazy if you told me we had a real shot at Arizona, North Carolina and Georgia.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,989 posts)
17. Absolutely not.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:34 AM
Oct 2020

I don’t think anyone will ever get all fifty. The only way that can happen is if we go to a one party country and have Russia style “elections”. Which could be as soon as 2024 if we’re not careful and diligent.

We have to vote.

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
19. Idaho is basically impossible
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 07:16 AM
Oct 2020

And there are no signs of this in SD, ND, or even MO. Though I’m not sure how much the small red states are getting polled.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
20. The biggest recent landslide might be Roosevelt - Landon at 523 - 8
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 07:19 AM
Oct 2020
https://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/timeline/ provides maps of the electoral college vote by year.

Reagan - Mondale was 525 - 13

Nixon - McGovern was 520 - 17

The record seems to be Monroe - Adams at 231 - 1. Monroe won every state, but a NH elector voted for John Quincy Adams.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
22. This is still a close race. You need to understand that.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 01:36 AM
Oct 2020

I feel pretty good about the midwestern states we lost last time. And Pennsylvania. But they are not assured.

We may pick up Arizona, Florida and maybe N. Carolina. But that about all the inroads I see us making.

You need to stop reading stuff on the internet that makes you feel good.

We can still lose this.

Vote like your freedom depends on it. Because it does.

carpetbagger

(5,484 posts)
23. No, and Reagan wouldn't get 49 states today.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 01:39 AM
Oct 2020

Even with the same parameters, I think Mondale and Mcgovern would win at least 8 states today.

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