Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

misanthrope

(9,514 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:48 PM Oct 2020

While I think Amy Coney Barrett's religion is a poison pill

intended to create self-destruction for Democratic opposition, I think her religious views and the way they inform her secular life and judicial philosophy are indeed germane. The problem is how to broach that without making Christians defensive.

The opinion I saw expressed below could hold a key.

"All indications are that she has led an insulated and cloistered life in this cult, beginning with her raising by cultists and continuing with living in a cult house during college and law school. It does not appear she has traveled extensively, nor does it seem she has much life experience outside of the cult. I don't think someone with such cramped and narrow experiences would make a good Supreme. Her complete lack of trial experience representing clients also argues heavily against her suitability. I think someone sitting on the highest court in the land should have at least some kind of exposure to living and working among a variety of everyday people, people with different views and cultures. The more I read, the more I become convinced there is a concerted effort to hide pertinent details about her and that there are reasons for hiding them. Rigid ideologues are not what I want when it comes to SCOTUS material."

In short, it's not her religious views specifically Democratic senators should question, but more her insularity. Her "cramped and narrow experiences" and her "complete lack of trial experience representing clients" might be relatable for the standard GOP voter these days but they certainly don't lend themselves to a better-rounded view of the world.

Because the bottom line to her nomination is in the closing of the quoted opinion: "The more I read, the more I become convinced there is a concerted effort to hide pertinent details about her and that there are reasons for hiding them."

11 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
While I think Amy Coney Barrett's religion is a poison pill (Original Post) misanthrope Oct 2020 OP
In other words, a more intelligent Tulsi Gabbard, another proud cultist Hekate Oct 2020 #1
I question the judgment of a mother who takes her unmasked children to a party of 200 in a pandemic catrose Oct 2020 #2
Excellent points. BComplex Oct 2020 #3
cult pamdb Oct 2020 #4
You and me both misanthrope Oct 2020 #7
Her "religion" should not be a poison pill frazzled Oct 2020 #5
While it "shouldn't" be, that doesn't change the reality that it is misanthrope Oct 2020 #6
Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, John Kerry, and frazzled Oct 2020 #9
I think we're talking past each other misanthrope Oct 2020 #10
And you missed my point as well frazzled Oct 2020 #11
Just ask her simple questions and make her either lie or display her extremism BlueNProud Oct 2020 #8

catrose

(5,370 posts)
2. I question the judgment of a mother who takes her unmasked children to a party of 200 in a pandemic
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:53 PM
Oct 2020

Also how we can know whether someone on the federal bench for 3 years is ready for a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land.

BComplex

(9,934 posts)
3. Excellent points.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:56 PM
Oct 2020

Democrats are justified in doing whatever in the hell they need to do to stop this fiasco.

pamdb

(1,439 posts)
4. cult
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:04 PM
Oct 2020


Personally, as someone who has NO use for religion and as a non christian, I would love to see a couple of atheists, or non believers, or secular humanists, or whatever you want to call them, on the SC. I know it won't happen in my lifetime, but I would love to see it

misanthrope

(9,514 posts)
7. You and me both
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:51 PM
Oct 2020

but if you are a non-believer then you are sadly aware that atheists/agnostics are the most suspect group in American culture, according to polling. You are also acutely aware of the degree to which superstition permeates our society.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
5. Her "religion" should not be a poison pill
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:31 PM
Oct 2020

Many Roman Catholic politicians and citizens support Roe v Wade and Marriage Equality. It's her particular cultish beliefs that are the poison pill.

(Disclosure: I am NOT Catholic, not by a long shot).

misanthrope

(9,514 posts)
6. While it "shouldn't" be, that doesn't change the reality that it is
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:49 PM
Oct 2020

We have seen the aggrieved paranoia stoked in Christians in the last decades and politicized by the American right wing. The ridiculous "War on Christmas" is perhaps the easiest example, when wishing someone "Happy Holidays" is grounds for victimhood.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, John Kerry, and
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:27 PM
Oct 2020

Justice Sonia Sotomayor are all Catholics. Do you have problems with them?

It’s always dangerous to paint with a broad brush. It is called bias.

misanthrope

(9,514 posts)
10. I think we're talking past each other
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 07:25 PM
Oct 2020

I didn't say I had problems with Pelosi and those you named.

What I intended in using the term "Christians" was to include more conservative Roman Catholics (like my in-laws) and Protestants (like my other relatives) both. There are plenty of hyper-sensitive and gullible folks in their numbers. Those are the people the GOP is hoping to activate should Democrats mention anything about Barrett's religion.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
11. And you missed my point as well
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 07:42 PM
Oct 2020

When you use the term “Christians” derogatorily, you are criticizing all Christians in general, not just the conservative ones you happen to know. You alienate all people who consider themselves to be Christians, many of whom are excellent people. No one knows what’s in your head.

It’s like going on a rant about “Blacks” in a negative way and then saying, “Oh, I only mean the gangbangers,” or “Jews,” but you only mean “the ones in the long coats and side locks.”
That is what bigots do, and I don’t think you are a bigot.



BlueNProud

(1,109 posts)
8. Just ask her simple questions and make her either lie or display her extremism
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:57 PM
Oct 2020

Q: Judge Barret, you served as a "Handmaid" in the People of Praise group. Can you explain the purpose of a "Handmaid" and what your duties were?


Of course instead well get each Dem senator off on their own tangent, not coordinating with each other and spending way too much time bloviating and throwing niceties at her.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»While I think Amy Coney B...