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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:18 PM Oct 2020

BREAKING: Trump going dark in the midwest

Buzzfeed News

President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign is slashing television spending in the Midwest, canceling millions of dollars in advertising in states that carried him to victory in 2016.

He’s been off the local airwaves completely in Iowa and Ohio. The campaign also has given up at least $2 million worth of reservations in both Michigan and Wisconsin since early September. And in Minnesota, a state Trump almost won four years ago and has expressed confidence in flipping, his team already has chopped about $5 million from its projected fall TV budget.

The numbers, confirmed by the media firm Advertising Analytics, reflect a race where Democrat Joe Biden has gained a fundraising advantage over Trump and where polling suggests these states are competitive toss-ups or tipping toward Biden. The Trump campaign, meanwhile, according to data shared by Democratic ad trackers, has in recent weeks boosted its TV presence in the Sun Belt battlegrounds — Arizona, Florida, and Georgia — and Nevada, a state Trump lost in 2016.

As Trump’s retreat in Iowa and Ohio became more pronounced this week, his advisers dismissed it as a sign of strength, despite polls that show him essentially tied with Biden in both states. And Biden’s campaign has accelerated its advertising in Ohio, which at the beginning of the 2020 cycle many Democrats did not believe would be a top-tier swing state.


Remember when Trump was pledging to put $100 M of his own money into the race?
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BREAKING: Trump going dark in the midwest (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
Is the Russian fix in? kimbutgar Oct 2020 #1
more like Trump is dumb enough to surround himself with conmen Statistical Oct 2020 #4
His campaign is broke. bearsfootball516 Oct 2020 #5
This is how I am interpreting this move. Don't spend where u KNOW u are going to win. NoMoreRepugs Oct 2020 #6
Please tell us how Trump "knows" he's going to win in these States. brooklynite Oct 2020 #9
What fix would that be? brooklynite Oct 2020 #7
Suppressing/ disqualifying votes and changing those voting machines totals. kimbutgar Oct 2020 #11
Dewine is a Republican but not particularly pro-Trump brooklynite Oct 2020 #13
Do you remember this: Iwasthere Oct 2020 #19
I remember talking to the Executive Director of the Ohio Democratic Paty... brooklynite Oct 2020 #41
I thought that before but lately he has sounded like a Trumpie. Nt helpisontheway Oct 2020 #20
The conspiracy theories Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #31
Oh, no, Dewine is certainly pro-Trump. W_HAMILTON Oct 2020 #35
That's the first thing I thought too...but once bitten twice shy. nt Baltimike Oct 2020 #10
No. They've burned thru a billion in cash. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #17
More likely their confidence in ensuring enough Biden votes are not cast or counted. pat_k Oct 2020 #45
Its looking like he doesn't have any of his own money to put in the race. Hamer555 Oct 2020 #2
Save Alabama and Mississippi Stallion Oct 2020 #3
He'll glady pay you Tuesday chriscan64 Oct 2020 #8
He's saving money for court battles, that's all he has left. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #12
Hah, that's an interesting take on it! W_HAMILTON Oct 2020 #36
Trump has to go all in in TX, GA, and PA Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #14
PA is beyond reach for him. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #24
The he's lost. Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #25
He's saving the money for himself. tinrobot Oct 2020 #15
i wouldn't put it past the Con onetexan Oct 2020 #46
He's a grifter PaxtonSahara Oct 2020 #16
This Wanderlust988 Oct 2020 #30
Because he has no money Dr. Jack Oct 2020 #18
Trump has never had $100 M of his own money. whopis01 Oct 2020 #21
Oh He Had His Own Money ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #27
I think he's trying to get fewer votes to help his "fraud" case. cbdo2007 Oct 2020 #22
I remember when the media was playing up how much money the Trump campaign had.. helpisontheway Oct 2020 #23
The campaign is either broke or he plans on stealing all the money and running to another country SoonerPride Oct 2020 #26
He's moving the campaign from the electorate to the court system. JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #28
I think he is just trying to keep it from being a landslide Buckeyeblue Oct 2020 #29
If Biden carries WI, MI, AZ, and ME2, he can lose PA. Beakybird Oct 2020 #32
But Super PACs are still funding ads, against Dems MyMission Oct 2020 #33
The Deutsche Bank well has closed. sarcasmo Oct 2020 #34
Remember when people believed Trump had $100m of his own money? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2020 #37
that makes no sense to me mnmoderatedem Oct 2020 #38
The Russians are pulling the plug. roamer65 Oct 2020 #39
They made noises about "ending the cyber war" recently, and even OnDoutside Oct 2020 #40
THIS. roamer65 Oct 2020 #42
Have they given up and are trying to save the Senate?? SKKY Oct 2020 #43
They know they're on track eliminate at least 5% of Biden votes. . . pat_k Oct 2020 #44
Lower the lights, close the casket... Donny is dead... Blue Owl Oct 2020 #47
That's a bold strategy. Initech Oct 2020 #48

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
4. more like Trump is dumb enough to surround himself with conmen
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:20 PM
Oct 2020

and everyone has been stealing from the campaign. Trump has but so has everyone else.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,151 posts)
6. This is how I am interpreting this move. Don't spend where u KNOW u are going to win.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:22 PM
Oct 2020

I absolutely hope I am wrong and just being paranoid, BUT the RePutinicans will do ANYTHING to retain power.

kimbutgar

(27,351 posts)
11. Suppressing/ disqualifying votes and changing those voting machines totals.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:27 PM
Oct 2020

Red states with repuke governors, legislatures and SOS’s are corrupted.

Don’t forget he floated the ideas of making electors vote for him despite the state totals.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
13. Dewine is a Republican but not particularly pro-Trump
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:29 PM
Oct 2020

And there's no evidence that vote totals have been changed.

Iwasthere

(3,512 posts)
19. Do you remember this:
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:50 PM
Oct 2020

"I was startled to hear the reporter detail how Karen Hughes had earlier sat George W. Bush down to inform him that he'd lost the election. The exit polls were clear: Kerry was winning in a landslide. "Bush took the news stoically," That was around midnight. I will never forget it. I watched the flipping.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2004/11/06/evidence-mounts-vote-may-have-been-hacked

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
41. I remember talking to the Executive Director of the Ohio Democratic Paty...
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:57 PM
Oct 2020

...and asking her directly...

...and having her say “no”.

I also remember Democrats winning in Ohioan on those same voting machines.

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
31. The conspiracy theories
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:08 PM
Oct 2020

about vote switching are tiresome. If they were really switching votes, Obama wouldn’t have been a two term president and the 2018 blue tsunami would never have occurred.

W_HAMILTON

(10,372 posts)
35. Oh, no, Dewine is certainly pro-Trump.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:12 PM
Oct 2020

Just because he hasn't acted like one of the cultists when it comes to COVID doesn't mean that he isn't pro-Trump. I believe CNN interviewed him sometime in the past week or so and he said that he supported Trump in the presidential election.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
17. No. They've burned thru a billion in cash.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:34 PM
Oct 2020

Much of it on grift. And the huge influx of cash in late summer they were counting in never came.

They have to defend in ‘safe’ places.

Nothing nefarious. Just economic.

Johnny2X2X

(24,306 posts)
14. Trump has to go all in in TX, GA, and PA
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:30 PM
Oct 2020

He’s leaving states that are toss ups because he has no choice.

He has to stay in FL too.

PaxtonSahara

(17 posts)
16. He's a grifter
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:32 PM
Oct 2020

I think he doesn't want to waste money that he could keep for himself. He's gonna need it to fight lawsuits and pay off debt.

Wanderlust988

(787 posts)
30. This
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:05 PM
Oct 2020

He's stealing the money to pay off his own personal debts. Why throw good money out of the window on silly ads when you can use it to pay off your debts?

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
18. Because he has no money
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:35 PM
Oct 2020

I don't care what his campaign claims or any pledges he has made about spending his own funds. They are broke and no one is going to bail them out, including Trump

ProfessorGAC

(76,960 posts)
27. Oh He Had His Own Money
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:57 PM
Oct 2020

Operative word is had. Past tense.
He squandered a giant inheritance and huge "loans" from daddy.
He failed at finance. No wonder he didn't get an MBA. Staying in school could have held off real life for a year & a half.
But, he couldn't get into grad school.
He probably failed finance in college, too.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
22. I think he's trying to get fewer votes to help his "fraud" case.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:52 PM
Oct 2020

If he loses by less than the polls project that will give him ammo to say there was fraud.

helpisontheway

(5,383 posts)
23. I remember when the media was playing up how much money the Trump campaign had..
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:54 PM
Oct 2020

They acted like the dem candidate did not have any chance to catch up. Nt

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
26. The campaign is either broke or he plans on stealing all the money and running to another country
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:56 PM
Oct 2020

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,698 posts)
28. He's moving the campaign from the electorate to the court system.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:02 PM
Oct 2020

He may slash television ads, but is he slashing his legal staff?

Buckeyeblue

(6,382 posts)
29. I think he is just trying to keep it from being a landslide
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:03 PM
Oct 2020

Then he can claim there is voter fraud. If it's a landslide, he can't really claim anything.

MyMission

(2,010 posts)
33. But Super PACs are still funding ads, against Dems
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:09 PM
Oct 2020

And special interest groups are also funding ads, against Biden and local candidates, so it's not like going dark means there are no ads running there for them, just not ones paid for by the campaign.

So instead of hearing "this ad was approved/paid for by the candidate" it says "paid for by this group or that group," sometimes even giving disclaimer the candidate did not approve it.

Still, his campaign doesn't have the funds that Biden or the Dems do, between donations from fired up supporters and Bloomberg's contributions to the cause, which is freedom from fascism here in the US!

This weekend I found some local repub propaganda left in my back screen door days before. 3 pieces, including 1 door handle medium sized sign for tRump, a sheet listing the conservative candidates to vote for, and a chart contrasting repug vs Dem values and agendas. My town and county is 60% red. Their list of who to vote for will be very helpful to me, knowing who NOT to vote for. Lol And they included school board candidates, which are/should be non partisan, but again, it tells me who not to vote for.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,345 posts)
37. Remember when people believed Trump had $100m of his own money?
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:20 PM
Oct 2020

At best, he'd have to sell all his property, and pay off all the loans, and then maybe, under former valuations, he might have netted $100m. But now everyone would see he's desperate, and force the price down.

mnmoderatedem

(3,910 posts)
38. that makes no sense to me
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:29 PM
Oct 2020

Unless I'm mistaken, Iowa and Ohio are states that polls show are still in play

Living in Minnesota, I have indeed noticed a drop off in trump tv ads. Quite nice.

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
40. They made noises about "ending the cyber war" recently, and even
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:46 PM
Oct 2020

Facebook are suddenly clearing out the Qanon crowd...looks like they are trying to tidy things up.

pat_k

(13,485 posts)
44. They know they're on track eliminate at least 5% of Biden votes. . .
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:12 PM
Oct 2020

That is why they are confident in states that are almost tied.

The polls assume those polled will be able to easily cast their vote and have that vote counted.

That assumption does not hold.

Unless Biden has a double-digit lead in a state, the state is at risk given how effectively they have been at erecting barriers that disproportionately stop Biden voters from casting their vote, disqualifying ballots from Biden strongholds, and intimidating voters in those strongholds with their threatening phone calls (and more direct intimidation on election day).

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