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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen people say "religious liberties", what religion are they referring to?
There are hundreds, possibly thousands of different religions with different doctrines, practices, acceptable behaviors, etc. Any religion at any time can be offended. Any law could violate their "religious liberties". Stopping at red lights angers my God.
femmedem
(8,201 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)Yavin4
(35,437 posts)Or flying spaghetti monster worshippers.
JHB
(37,158 posts)...in their (so-called) thinking.
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)...and the whole world must cater to their viewpoint, because it's God's viewpoint.
haele
(12,647 posts)When opposing Lutheran Synods meet, the knives are out and it's Jets and Sharks time...
The trouble with True Believers is that they're usually small, isolated factions and everyone else is a Godless Heretic that is going straight to Hell.
That's why Laws must be secular - to maintain consistency and keep the assault rates down.
Haele
Srkdqltr
(6,271 posts)I have asked people who say "prayer In school " i say what prayers? Catholic Methodist Presbyterian Lutheran? I never get an answer.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)Nobody else's religions matter. They'd have a fit if, for example, a muzzein were delivering a call to prayer from atop a mosque, especially in some nice white suburb; they'd call that "disturbing the peace." And there are certain religious practices that are definitely illegal, like polygamy, even though that was once a "sincerly-held religious belief" among Mormons. Some religions use psychedelic drugs in their rituals, but that's illegal too. What if your sincerely-held religious beliefs include human sacrifice? Can't do that, either. But if someone's sincerely-held religious belief involves restricting women's reproductive rights or the civil rights of LGBT people, that has to be protected at all costs.
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)I won't get into heaven if I don't.
Laws preventing me from kicking Ted Cruz in the balls violate my freedoms.
Shermann
(7,412 posts)It's either that or the Rand Paul body-slamming movement.
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)Just know that the Rand Paul body-slamming movement is entirely different sect. They meet across the street.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)Seems to me, it's religious liberties for any "faith" that subscribes to these supposed "religious" doctrines.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I am semi-reformed Pastafarian New Dishpensationist and I can't have my rights.
erronis
(15,241 posts)Interesting segment on OnPointRadio with someone who discussed that religions were formed when societies expanded beyond the "personal trust" size - about 100-150 individuals.
Once communal societies got too big they needed some "external force" to make sure there was cohesion. So gawds were invented.
There were choices between benevolent gawds or punitive ones. Apparently the punitive ones have been more successful at keeping the serfs at bay.