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IcyPeas

(21,894 posts)
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 03:21 AM Oct 2020

NYT estimates it costs $1.5 million for the Regeneron antibody cocktail.

Didn't Trump say we could get this for free?

"As far as we know, the President is the only person in the world to have received this combination of treatments."

NYT also estimates it costs ~ $1.5 million for the Regeneron antibody cocktail.

➡️ Special treatment for he, but not for thee. #COVID19



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NYT estimates it costs $1.5 million for the Regeneron antibody cocktail. (Original Post) IcyPeas Oct 2020 OP
Why is there so little talk of the embryonic human stem cell connection to this Regeneron NotANeocon Oct 2020 #1
Regeneron says the stem cells were derived from an abortion... IcyPeas Oct 2020 #3
My friend works for Regeneron- not true mdelaguna Oct 2020 #4
Summary re: fact check mdelaguna Oct 2020 #5
even if it is- why can you donate any part of your body, or your whole body when you die ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #7
Right on their own Rejeneron site ---- NotANeocon Oct 2020 #16
What makes "The Dispatch" more reliable than "The Mirror"? NotANeocon Oct 2020 #17
You might like the MIT evaluation - NotANeocon Oct 2020 #18
Pretty safe to say, your average Joe is not getting this, only for the highest bidders. sunonmars Oct 2020 #2
Didn't MF45 just state that he was going to make the sinkingfeeling Oct 2020 #6
He lies. sunonmars Oct 2020 #8
Don't we all have a spare $1.5M laying around? Rice4VP Oct 2020 #9
There's nothing to fear from COVID-19 as long as you have 1.5M handy. honest.abe Oct 2020 #10
Didn't 2 tons of fun say it was going to be free?? SKKY Oct 2020 #11
I don't think that's true FBaggins Oct 2020 #12
Shouldn't we all get Marine One, Secret Service, and a presidential suite in the package? LiberalFighter Oct 2020 #13
'anticipated cost'? Isn't that like the free hamburgers tomorrow argument? n/t Hugin Oct 2020 #15
My estimate for the total cost of the 4 day campaign toot to WR... Hugin Oct 2020 #14

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
1. Why is there so little talk of the embryonic human stem cell connection to this Regeneron
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 03:46 AM
Oct 2020

Yes the embryonic cells are sourced from In Vitro Fertilization but remember that the IVF technique is panned by the Anti Abortion crowd because it involves a human baby from conception. The company splits hairs on this but ask the Pope what he thinks.

Hypocrites.

IcyPeas

(21,894 posts)
3. Regeneron says the stem cells were derived from an abortion...
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:03 AM
Oct 2020
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/10/07/1009664/trumps-antibody-treatment-was-tested-using-cells-from-an-abortion/

This week, President Donald Trump extolled the cutting-edge coronavirus treatments he received as “miracles coming down from God.” If that’s true, then God employs cell lines derived from human fetal tissue.

The emergency antibody that Trump received last week was developed with the use of a cell line originally derived from abortion tissue, according to Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, the company that developed the experimental drug.

The Trump administration has taken an increasingly firm line against medical research using fetal tissue from abortions. For example, when it moved in 2019 to curtail the ability of the National Institutes of Health to fund such research, supporters hailed a “major pro-life victory” and thanked Trump personally for taking decisive action against what they called the “outrageous and disgusting” practice of “experimentation using baby body parts.”

The Trump administration has sought to block or curtail research that requires tissue from recently performed abortions. In August, for example, a new board created by the Department of Health and Human Services, and stacked with figures opposed to abortion, voted to withhold funding from 13 of 14 proposals.

mdelaguna

(471 posts)
5. Summary re: fact check
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 07:38 AM
Oct 2020

From my friend’s spouse:

Please stop spreading the false info that the Regeneron monoclonal antibody-body treatment was developed using human embryonic stem cellls. My wife has worked for the company that makes it for a very long time. She confirms that It is simply NOT TRUE. I keep seeing the claim. I keep having to knock it down. No one should be told that this medication violates their religious beliefs. If it proves safe and effective, people will die needlessly without it because of this false info.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
7. even if it is- why can you donate any part of your body, or your whole body when you die
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 07:57 AM
Oct 2020

to science but not the products of conception from an abortion?
strikes me as better source than ivf leftovers. differentiated cells. way better.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
16. Right on their own Rejeneron site ----
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 10:13 PM
Oct 2020

- in an attempt to prove they are not using terminated fetal iines of stem cells, they make the claim that the stem cells used derive from IVF sources among others.

Now they might believe that this distinction is germane but to the anti-women's rights zealots (Catholic and Evangelical fascists eg) there is no difference. These biological dunderheads use the term "test tube baby" to describe IVF and claim there is an instant baby created when sperm meets ovum.

The hypocrites in chief are aware of the distinction I just pointed out but if it saves their life they are quite willing to ignore religious superstitions. Of course this medication violates many religious dogmatic untruths which many churches promote. If that prevents the rubes from saving themselves they are their own enemy and truth is not the enemy.

You may not like the fact that Regeneron is playing semantic games to appeal to religious and other political anti-abortion zealots but that's the fact. live with it.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
17. What makes "The Dispatch" more reliable than "The Mirror"?
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 10:36 PM
Oct 2020

Their purpose is to "correct FaceBook". =

Being associated with Facebook is enough to have me ignore any such blog.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
18. You might like the MIT evaluation -
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 12:03 AM
Oct 2020

- Seems they won't accept the anti-woman's rights group plausible deniability spin Regeneron had adopted and the Drumph cult has accepted.

MIT Review

sinkingfeeling

(51,464 posts)
6. Didn't MF45 just state that he was going to make the
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 07:56 AM
Oct 2020

Regeneon treatment available to every American Covid-19 patient for free? How could the US budget handle that?

SKKY

(11,813 posts)
11. Didn't 2 tons of fun say it was going to be free??
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 08:10 AM
Oct 2020

Kinda like how Mexico was going to pay for the wall?

FBaggins

(26,749 posts)
12. I don't think that's true
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 08:16 AM
Oct 2020

The reports I've seen say that the anticipated cost is $3,100 per vial for Regeneron.

I think the $1.5 million figure is an estimate of the total cost involved... mostly the helicopter ride, presidential suite, secret service, etc.

Hugin

(33,167 posts)
14. My estimate for the total cost of the 4 day campaign toot to WR...
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 08:42 AM
Oct 2020

Is no less than in the 10s of million Dollars.

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