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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPelosi now: "Tomorrow we are going to be talking about the 25th Amendment" (Trump's mental state?)
Link to tweet
Manu Raju
@mkraju
Tomorrow we are going to be talking about the 25th Amendment, Pelosi says
Here it is on CSPAN:
Link to tweet
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)durablend
(7,462 posts)Not a chance they're going to do it
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Obviously she knows they wont actually invoke it.
Hekate
(90,737 posts)...that the House tried to remove him because he is insane and contagious, and the Senate still said no.
I think our Speaker of the House is trying to save the country.
Which side do you want to be on?
Laelth
(32,017 posts)A lot, I am sure, but something that might trigger the 25th Amendment ... tomorrow? Thats awfully specific.
I will wait until this is verified before getting terribly concerned.
-Laelth
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)if Trump tries to hold more of his rallies.
onenote
(42,715 posts)And if you think that's going to happen you need to revisit the real world
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Is Nancy going to talk to Pence about it? When she says we is she talking about Pence and herself?
For that matter, when you say they, who are you talking about? Any discussion of the 25th Amendment that does not involve Pence is a waste of time and energy. Pence is the only person who could make it happen.
-Laelth
EndlessWire
(6,546 posts)Whose got the list today? We need to put that on the list of things to improve our lives.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)I suppose thats possible. Nothing will come of it if Pence isnt on board. I am desperately curious to know what she means by the we in that little, context-deprived tweet.
-Laelth
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)provides much more info.
I think she dropped this bomb and left it purposefully vague.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)unacceptable to the electorate. Turn him into one of those guys who like to dress up like napoleon and bark orders to strangers.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)durablend
(7,462 posts)Those voting for Biden already think he's nuts and want him out. The ones voting for Trump will likely only become more pissed off and still vote for him.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)the rest of us can see. These are not the true fanatics and can still be dissuaded. The point is not holding back any punches. Hit these muthafuckas' with everything. I don't recall a time when the Speaker of the House questioned the "so called" president's mental state. That's not a conversation they want less than a month away.
KatyMan
(4,201 posts)Whether Trump is competent or not, the administration needs to be spending time defending that he is, put them on the defensive.
Le Roi de Pot
(744 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)bluestarone
(16,988 posts)Nancy's got this right. Talk every day about RUMP being completely INSANE!!!
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Is a great Idea. Get it out about just how crazy he has become, how dangerous keeping in charge would be, and force republican in the House and the Senate to either defend him, keep silent, or stand up to him.
All those republicans running this year should be confronted every day about the seriousness of keeping trump in the WH.
Hekate
(90,737 posts)Somethings definitely up.
ihas2stinkyfeet
(1,400 posts)at least 1 kid worried in public.
call out mother's boy on live teevee. then he can point at everyone else and say- it wasnt my idea to become prez.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)Section 4 addresses the case of an incapacitated president who is unable or unwilling to execute the voluntary declaration contemplated in Section 3; it is the amendment's only section that has never been invoked. It allows the vice president, together with a "majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide", to declare the president "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office" in a written declaration. The transfer of authority to the vice president is immediate, and (as with Section 3) the vice president becomes acting president not president while the president remains in office, albeit divested of all authority.[6]
The "principal officers of the executive departments" are the fifteen Cabinet members enumerated in the United States Code at 5 U.S.C 101:[7][8][9]
Secretary of State
Secretary of the Treasury
Secretary of Defense
Attorney General
Secretary of the Interior
Secretary of Agriculture
Secretary of Commerce
Secretary of Labor
Secretary of Health and Human Services
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Secretary of Transportation
Secretary of Energy
Secretary of Education
Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Secretary of Homeland Security
A president thus declared unable to serve may subsequently issue a declaration stating that he is able. This marks the beginning of a four-day period during which the vice president remains acting president.[10][11]:38n137 If by the end of this period the vice president and a majority of the "principal officers of the executive departments" have not issued a second declaration of the president's incapacity, then the president resumes his powers and duties.
If a second declaration of incapacity is issued within the four-day period, then the vice president remains acting president while Congress considers the matter. If within 21 days the Senate and the House determine, each by a two-thirds vote, that the president is incapacitated, then the vice president continues as acting president; otherwise the president resumes his powers and duties.[note 1]
Section 4's requirements for the vice president to remain acting president indefinitely a declaration by the vice president together with a majority of the principal officers or other body, then (if the president makes a counter-declaration) a two-thirds vote of the House and a two-thirds vote of the Senate contrasts with the Constitution's procedure for removal of the president from office for "high crimes and misdemeanors" a majority of the House (Article I, Section 2, Clause 5) followed by two-thirds of the Senate (Article I, Section 3, Clause 6).[13][14]
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)Yes, the House cannot start the actual process, but she can start a discussion. We not nay need to discuss the current situation, but how it has shown holes in our succession process.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)Discussing a bill to create another body to decide. Which is clearly needed.