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Enlightening CNN graphic re: Murders committed by domestic terrorists (Original Post) catbyte Oct 2020 OP
Damn. Left wing extremists killed 7.44 people underpants Oct 2020 #1
They Should Have Used Sign ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #6
A big fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2020 #2
Oh, Jeez. We only have 74% of the terrorism? Need to up our game! erronis Oct 2020 #3
The two major Islamic attacks (Orlando and San Bernardino) John Fante Oct 2020 #4
And that's just during the Obama Era, basically. IHaveNoName Oct 2020 #5
OKC, For Instance ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #8
Right. This is before their man Trump "gave them permission". Midnight Writer Oct 2020 #12
It's been a rout for 25 years genxlib Oct 2020 #7
Here are details behind that...going back quite a few years.... Roland99 Oct 2020 #9
Thanks for the supporting data! progressoid Oct 2020 #28
Interesting. CrispyQ Oct 2020 #34
Kicked and bookmarked! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #10
K and R BadgerMom Oct 2020 #11
Problem is, warmfeet Oct 2020 #13
I love that graphic BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #20
Someone send this graphic to Bill Barr... pazzyanne Oct 2020 #14
Pro life Traildogbob Oct 2020 #15
Of the "left-wing' extremists, how many were committed by Antifa? Archae Oct 2020 #16
Weren't they responsible for the Bowling Green Massacre? maxsolomon Oct 2020 #18
... BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #23
LOL Nevilledog Oct 2020 #35
who were the 2% classified as left wing terrorists? NewJeffCT Oct 2020 #17
Unabomber? maxsolomon Oct 2020 #19
the Unabomber was the 1990s, though NewJeffCT Oct 2020 #21
Then I have absolutely no idea. maxsolomon Oct 2020 #24
Other than the guy who shot Scalise? Hmmm, I got nothing. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2020 #22
2% of 372 people killed is 7. meadowlander Oct 2020 #25
Duh, somehow missed the first word "murders". My mistake. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2020 #27
I downloaded the ADL's report. maxsolomon Oct 2020 #26
Wouldn't the DC Sniper be under Islamic Extremist ? JI7 Oct 2020 #32
Good point, but it was before the range of years this chart illustrates. maxsolomon Oct 2020 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2020 #29
I notice this thread has gotten onto the homepage, with the graph prominent. I wish it could be Squinch Oct 2020 #30
Islamic Extremists are also Right Wing Extremists JI7 Oct 2020 #31
KnR Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #33
Conservatives will see that the graphic is from CNN and will dismiss it out of hand Poiuyt Oct 2020 #36

ProfessorGAC

(65,090 posts)
6. They Should Have Used Sign
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:28 PM
Oct 2020

Because the number is 7. How hard would it have been to add that symbol.
And 74% isn't merely a majority. It's a preponderance. It's 3x the other categories combined.
They can do better.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,651 posts)
2. A big fat K&R!
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:11 PM
Oct 2020

This graphic does not surprise me, not one little bit.

The right wing extremists have been validated and encouraged by that orange blob in OUR White House.

erronis

(15,307 posts)
3. Oh, Jeez. We only have 74% of the terrorism? Need to up our game!
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:12 PM
Oct 2020

The losers have nothing to lose and so they want to destroy the others.

The reason they are losers is because this capitalistic society decides there are the BIGWIGS and the losers.

The world won't be in a half-settled place until we get rid of these extreme class divides based on wealth.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
4. The two major Islamic attacks (Orlando and San Bernardino)
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:15 PM
Oct 2020

were masterminded by US-born dipshits. Lest people try to blame immigrants and refugees.

IHaveNoName

(95 posts)
5. And that's just during the Obama Era, basically.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:25 PM
Oct 2020

I'd be curious to see how much larger that "Right Wing Extremists" slice is for 2016-2020.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
7. It's been a rout for 25 years
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:28 PM
Oct 2020

They got off to a 168 murder head start at Oklahoma City in 1995 and have been running up the score ever since.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
9. Here are details behind that...going back quite a few years....
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:31 PM
Oct 2020
https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states
Between 1994 and 2020, there were 893 terrorist attacks and plots in the United States. Overall, right-wing terrorists perpetrated the majority—57 percent—of all attacks and plots during this period, compared to 25 percent committed by left-wing terrorists, 15 percent by religious terrorists, 3 percent by ethnonationalists, and 0.7 percent by terrorists with other motives.

Figure 1 shows the proportion of attacks and plots attributed to the perpetrator ideologies each year during this period. Right-wing attacks and plots were predominant from 1994 to 1999 and accounted for more than half of all incidents in 2008 as well as every year since 2011, with the exception of 2013. Most right-wing attacks in the 1990s targeted abortion clinics, while most right-wing attacks since 2014 focused on individuals (often targeted because of religion, race, or ethnicity) and religious institutions. Facilities and individuals related to the government and police have also been consistent right-wing targets throughout the period, particularly for attacks by militia and sovereign citizen groups.




The decrease in right-wing activity in the early-2000s coincided with an increase in left-wing activity from 2000 to 2005. Most of these left-wing attacks targeted property associated with animal research, farming, or construction and were claimed by the Animal Liberation Front or the Earth Liberation Front.

As shown in Figure 2, data on the number of terrorist attacks and plots by perpetrator orientation indicate that right-wing terrorism not only accounts for the majority of incidents but has also grown in quantity over the past six years. This increase is reminiscent of the wave of right-wing activity in the 1990s that peaked with 43 right-wing incidents in 1995. The Oklahoma City bombing, which occurred on April 19, 1995, was the second-most deadly terrorist attack in U.S. history, after September 11, 2001. In three recent years—2016, 2017, and 2019—the number of right-wing terrorist events matched or exceeded the number in 1995, including a recent high of 53 right-wing terrorist incidents in 2017. Despite a moderate decrease in 2018 to 29 incidents, right-wing activity again increased in 2019 to 44 incidents. Religious attacks and plots have also shown some increases during this period—notably in 2015, 2017, and 2019—but at a significantly smaller magnitude than right-wing events.


CrispyQ

(36,484 posts)
34. Interesting.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 11:31 AM
Oct 2020
Most of these left-wing attacks targeted property associated with animal research, farming, or construction and were claimed by the Animal Liberation Front or the Earth Liberation Front.


So the left is pissed off about inhumane treatment of animals and polluting Mother Earth.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
13. Problem is,
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 06:18 PM
Oct 2020

tRumpists don't know and don't give a shit. The statistics are solidly in our favor, 43% of the voting population in this country is not. I personally know several of these people. They are lost and gone forever. There is no bringing them back to reality. Ever.

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pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
14. Someone send this graphic to Bill Barr...
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 06:22 PM
Oct 2020

not that it will do any good. I am sending it to all my tRump humping relatives to make a point!

Side note: On day 3 of the Mpls, MN riots, law enforcement had identified "well organized groups of provocateurs" who were mixing with protesters and then after dark were carrying out a pre-determined plan. When watching other cities facing the same problem, it was easy to figure out what was happening: tRump's army on the move.

Traildogbob

(8,762 posts)
15. Pro life
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 06:28 PM
Oct 2020

I don’t go out much. Stay in the trailless forests with my dog to not see trumpets. Had to go across county today to get part for my chain saw. I saw three huge billboards for trump on the way. One, was a get on the Trump train with a big choo choo. The other two in huge letters. Trump God Guns and Country. The fuckers are religious terrorist. Happy to kill in their Gods name, roam around packed in Trucks with military weaponry, and big flags of hate. How many Americans have died in the Middle East protecting “them” from the same thing? Need to give “them” democracy and freedom. We should ask forgiveness from the families that lost soldiers in those wars, giving their lives fighting for democracy there, and we shit on ours here. I am in Western North Carolina. There are lots of Biden/Harris yard signs, but these billboards were huge. Back to the woods. Fuck these lunatics, and their God.

Archae

(46,339 posts)
16. Of the "left-wing' extremists, how many were committed by Antifa?
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 06:29 PM
Oct 2020

AFAIK, zero.

Yet fatso in the White House blames Antifa for violence.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
18. Weren't they responsible for the Bowling Green Massacre?
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 06:52 PM
Oct 2020

I suppose you could argue the shooting of the Proud Boy by Michael Reinoehl was "terror", but he contended it was self-defense in the interview he did the day before he was summarily executed by deputized "Federal Marshals".

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. who were the 2% classified as left wing terrorists?
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 06:47 PM
Oct 2020

I don't recall any left wing terrorism that killed people

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
24. Then I have absolutely no idea.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 07:02 PM
Oct 2020

Even in the Steve Scalise shooting, I don't think anyone was actually killed.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
25. 2% of 372 people killed is 7.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 07:06 PM
Oct 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting

Nobody died from that shooting though.

They must be counting some PETA, ELF or ALF nut jobs or police shootings that may or may not have had anything to do with protests.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
26. I downloaded the ADL's report.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 07:11 PM
Oct 2020

They're putting "Anarchists & Black Nationalists" in with "Left Wing Extremists". So the DC Snipers, for instance, would be "Left Wing Terror", but that was 2002.

I didn't see any specific incidents.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
37. Good point, but it was before the range of years this chart illustrates.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:51 AM
Oct 2020

We're trying to figure out the "Left Wing" killings in this chart. That info is not in the report (that I saw doing a grad-school skim).

Response to catbyte (Original post)

Squinch

(50,957 posts)
30. I notice this thread has gotten onto the homepage, with the graph prominent. I wish it could be
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:15 AM
Oct 2020

pinned there forever.

JI7

(89,254 posts)
31. Islamic Extremists are also Right Wing Extremists
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:23 AM
Oct 2020

so 98 percent is from the right wing and 2 from the left wing.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
33. KnR
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:57 AM
Oct 2020

Very interesting, Thanks for posting.

I hope that these "charming" individuals that were plotting to kidnap the Governor of Michigan get to spend some quality time at a nice federal facility on an island in the Caribbean and are never heard from again.

Poiuyt

(18,128 posts)
36. Conservatives will see that the graphic is from CNN and will dismiss it out of hand
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 02:26 PM
Oct 2020

Never mind the facts

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