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Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:51 PM

The United States needs a parliament system

Giving this much power to one man as President of the USA is going to destroy us.
Maybe we can make the President a symbolic position like Germany does.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:54 PM

1. Dunno bout dat, but get rid of the anti-democratic Electoral College!


Parliamentary systems have lots of advantages, but start with the Electoral College!

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 04:58 PM

2. No, We need to start over.

A few years ago Oregon tried to have a parliament system, but the voters didn't approve.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:06 PM

3. Parliamentary Systems Have Weakness Too

The only thing that I can think of that would change this would be the introduction of a vote of no confidence in the House. In that scenario, it would trigger a presidential election sooner than every four years. It would require a 2/3 vote of the House. Unlike impeachment, it would not end up with the president being removed from office but would force him to stand for re-election.

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Response to kurtcagle (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:17 PM

8. We need to increase the number of delegates ...the population is way to big for what we have.

That would help. And let's add DC and Puerto Rico as states.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:09 PM

4. Parliamentary systems aren't perfect either.

They are subject to just as much skulduggery, double-dealing and corruption as ours. Watch the excellent Danish TV series "Borgen" on Netflix for a really interesting look at how their system works - with all the shit and backstabbing that can happen in a parliamentary system.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:12 PM

5. I think the fix would be some way to disempower party politics...

...so that we can much better rely on Congress to provide checks and balances. For all the greatness attributed to the design of our Constitution, it wasn't designed for a two-party system. It was believed that the diversity of states and state interests would supersede party interests.

Obviously, it didn't work out that way.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:14 PM

6. A Democratic super-majority is working well enough in California.

Let's start with that.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:15 PM

7. We have a constitution...and dumb ass UK prime minister has plenty of power.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:19 PM

9. Overturn Citizens United

and pass real campaign finance reform legislation.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:20 PM

10. We can approximate that over time by elevating the role of the House of Representatives.

The first step will be the elimination of the Senate filibuster. No longer will a minority of Senators in that body be able to block an agenda supported by the representatives of a majority of voters.

Next, the House needs to forcefully take back its spending authority from the Executive Branch. No more emergency powers and special authorizations that a rogue President can use to override Congressional authority.

The House also needs an enforcement mechanism to ensure that it's subpoenas and oversight have teeth. I'd favor putting D.C. police under the authority of the Speaker for purposes of enforcing Congressional subpoenas and other such matters.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:22 PM

11. We need Question Time at least.

George W Bush would not have been reelected if he had to march down to the House of Reps every week and answer questions for an hour or two. Trump would have been impeached three months in.

US Presidents should not be able to dodge questions they way Trump has by cancelling press briefings and limiting his interactions to ten minute chopper talk snippets that he can run away from at any time.

We pay his salary. If he can't stand up to an hour of specific questioning on his policies then he doesn't belong in the office.

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:24 PM

12. That has been Newt Gingrich's plan

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Response to KWR65 (Original post)

Thu Oct 8, 2020, 05:24 PM

13. We need to reduce the powers of the President and the Senate.

Increase the size of the House to make districts smaller.

The Senate should not be able to author or kill legislation. Only amend or remove sections of it.

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