Chumpy told Hannity that he still has "lingering effects" from COVID.

[MoonRiver]

Excuse me, but isn't that another way of saying he still has SYMPTOMS? And that would mean he's NOT negative for the virus. Am I right?

[drray23]

1. indeed.

many covid patients take months before testing negative.

[Eyeball_Kid]

2. Were he testing negative, we'd be hearing all about it, nonstop.

Nonetheless, he could also be negative and STILL have lingering effects for months, possibly years. This virus is no joke.

[Claustrum]

3. The fact he isn't shouting about his negative test is the proof that he is NOT negative....

[Johnny2X2X]

4. Correct

And we know he's not negative, if he were they'd have been bragging about a negative test. Still positive means you're still contagious, he could remain contagious for several more weeks.

[RockRaven]

5. Symptoms/aftereffects, contagiousness, and test positivity don't fully overlap temporally

Best to consider each of those things as having their own typical timeline.

[Claustrum]

6. While you are right, testing negative is the go-to for people.

If I get COVID, my company wouldn't let me in unless I can show a negative test. Same applies to the president.

If he wants to show some he is safe by other methods, it is upon him to show the lab test result to convince us otherwise. Just his words aren't enough.

[RockRaven]

7. Trump rarely follows rules anyway; but the rule he'd likely claim to follow is the CDC guideline

that says people no longer shed replicable virus particles 10 days after the onset of symptoms in mild to moderate cases. Even though at that point they still test positive.

His doc already announced he's back to work on Sat. Ten days prior to that is Wed, the day after the debate. That's awfully convenient, so much so I suspect it is a lie (all of our info is being supplied by known liars and sycophants, after all). I think Trump probably had symptoms prior to the debate, but they can't admit that b/c he's already getting pilloried for irresponsible behavior and that would make it 10x worse. But he also wants no restrictions on his activities, so they claim Wed to run out that 10 day clock as fast as possible.

[Hortensis]

11. Good points. Lingering effects are not necessarily symptoms.

But as for "symptoms," in this setting it's worth nothing that, technically, SYMPTOMS and SIGNS are two very different things. Medically, symptoms are subjective reports by patients of what they've noticed. Signs are objective observations and findings by medical professionals.

So I wondered when his doctor said Trump no longer had symptoms, if that could be more of his weaseling around with language, a way to avoid mentioning continued signs of Covid-19. And of course, it's all too easy to suspect Trump may have been blabbing about continued symptoms to Hannity.

[world wide wally]

8. I'm sure he will take a test before his test on tv.

Even he is not that stupid (I think)

[GopherGal]

9. "Lingering Effects"???

It's only a week since he (first publicly admitted that he) tested positive. What we call those are *symptoms*.

Those poor folks who aren't back to normal months later? THEY'RE having lingering effects, you orange doofus. You're just coming down from the steroid doses you were on earlier in the week.

[JCMach1]

10. No such thing. He is full of shite

There is only Covid, or not Covid.

Glad to have that conversation with another person who was ALSO given remdesivir and dexamethasone therapies