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Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:59 PM Oct 2020

Sen. Mike Lee's tweets against "democracy," explained. VOX

It’s not often that you see a US senator declare that “we’re not a democracy,” let alone to paint that as a good thing. Yet that’s exactly what Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) did in a pair of tweets spanning Wednesday night and Thursday morning, arguing that “democracy isn’t the objective; liberty, peace, and prospefity [sic] are.” “We want the human condition to flourish. Rank democracy can thwart that,” Lee writes.

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On the American right, there is a long tradition of arguing that the United States is a “republic, not a democracy,” a distinction its proponents trace back to the founders. It centers not on whether a nation holds competitive elections but the extent to which it puts constraints on majorities from restricting the rights of minorities. Democracies, on this definition, allow for untrammeled majority rule; republics put in place rules that prevent legislators from using their power in tyrannical ways (think the Bill of Rights).

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The spin offered by Lee and others on the right, historically speaking, originated as arguments for curbing democracy in the ordinary sense of the word — the ability of majorities to enact popular policies (that conservatives disapproved of). Warning against “the tyranny of the majority” serves as a justification for minority rule.

Quite a lot more in the article.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21507713/mike-lee-democracy-republic-trump-2020

A long article but the upshot is that Republicans want to change our democratic republic into an authoritarian republic.


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Sen. Mike Lee's tweets against "democracy," explained. VOX (Original Post) Crunchy Frog Oct 2020 OP
I can explain it much more simply... regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #1
There are only 2 kinds of republics. safeinOhio Oct 2020 #2
It's more about explaining the RW claim that... Crunchy Frog Oct 2020 #3
China, Iran, the USSR were/are all Republics TheRealNorth Oct 2020 #4
If Republicans are the majority, democracy good. If Democrats are the majority, democracy bad. Midnight Writer Oct 2020 #5
Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2020 #6

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
1. I can explain it much more simply...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:03 PM
Oct 2020

Mike Lee is a f*cking fascist wannabe, just like the rest of his wretched party.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
3. It's more about explaining the RW claim that...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:20 PM
Oct 2020

"We're a republic not a democracy". About its history and about what the word "democracy" meant to the founders of this country, and what system they intended for this country.

It's about unpacking and examining a claim that the Rs are trying to use to establish permanent minority rule in this country.

It's good info to have, in the current political environment, as even many liberals don't get it.

I once had to explain the distinction to my own mother, who is a lifelong liberal Democrat.

I don't like to underestimate the way RWers can manipulate language to confuse the American public, even the ones who are on our side.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
6. Exactly, Sir
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:54 PM
Oct 2020



"When conservatives find their views cannot prevail at the polls, they will not alter their views. They will reject Democracy."



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