Even if we win the Senate and presidency, do we have the votes to add SC Justices?

[Polybius]

I think we'll likely have 51-53 Senators, but adding Justices is too historical to automatically assume that every single on of them will vote yes. I'd say there are at least 5 or so "No" votes from Democrats, and no Republicans will vote for it. Manchin is not voting for this, and Feinstein is on record as late as September 22nd as opposing it.

What do you think of the chances? Will we have to wait until 2022, assuming we pickup more Senate seats (a huge assumption in itself)? Will it be easier than I think, or are the chances grim?

[vercetti2021]

1. The case needs that needs to be brought up is

That During 2015 til 2017. The Repuke senate refused to seat any of Obama's rightful court nominations. They need to say they denied judge to their rightful places and thus the case of restoring the courts is a must from the GOP stacking from obstruction.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Even if we survive the horror show about to unfold, we will not be able to

stop FASCIST KILLERS from deciding cases in the future.

Because people said "I just cant trust her" or "I will have to hold my nose"

(excuse me for a second )

We will have Women DYING in back alleys, LGBTQ lives DESTROYED and more.


Oh and ACA will be gone...do people understand ALL HEALTH INSURANCE other than Medicare and Medicaid and Veterans is ACA?

sigh

[Sherman A1]

3. A lot depends on the wheeling and dealing done behind closed doors

It may take awhile but the court has been at the same number of justices since the late 1800s. We have added a great number of states and population since that time. It only makes sense to expand the court seats to represent the changes that have occurred in this country.

[Fiendish Thingy]

4. We will if we kill the filibuster and hold Dems feet to the fire

If Feinstein votes against SCOTUS expansion, this should be her last term- she should be primaried by Katie Porter in 2022.

If you haven’t already, put your legislators on speed dial.

[still_one]

5. That is the key, removing the filibuster. I believe we will have to do that in order to make

Washington DC a state

[Polybius]

8. It's almost certain to be her last term anyway

She's 87 now, and not up for re-election until 2024 (not 2022 like you said), when she'll be 91.

[Fiendish Thingy]

20. Well, if we get to 53 seats, we won't need her or Manchin, just leadership that can whip votes nt

[Demsrule86]

15. Mitch ended the filibuster for SCOTUS and judges already.

[Fiendish Thingy]

19. Actually it was Harry Reid who first used the "nuclear option". Nt

[Midnight Writer]

22. Not for SCOTUS

[Demsrule86]

23. But not for SCOTUS...McConnel did this.

"This is how the Senate changes — not with a bang, but with a motion to overturn the ruling of the chair.

By a simple majority vote, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., set a new precedent in the Senate that will ease the confirmation for President Trump's Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch on Friday, after 30 more hours of debate on the floor.

"This will be the first, and last, partisan filibuster of a Supreme Court justice," said McConnell in a closing
confirmation floor speech."

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/06/522847700/senate-pulls-nuclear-trigger-to-ease-gorsuch-

[ProudMNDemocrat]

6. Any Democrat who does not vote in favor of a legitimate SC pick by Biden....

to replace a SC Justice either who has died or retired, will be primaried for sure when their term ends.

[SheltieLover]

7. Impeach boof boy, thomas & this fking idiot they are ramming through

So may not need to expand.

Also, impeach all the others deemed unqualified.

[Polybius]

9. That's 100 times harder than expansion (which only requires 50 votes without a filibuster)

Impeachment and removal would require 67 votes.

[SheltieLover]

12. Crap

Then, bu all means, expand to about 50!

[Statistical]

11. What 10 to 15 Republicans will vote for that?

[Statistical]

10. Do we have the votes? I don't know.

One thing is sure is that not trying is a guaranteed loss.

Mitch didn't just block Garland he blocked over 100 Federal judges as well. Some of them he blocked for 4+ years. A recent Trump appointee in Texas is who issued a stay on the ballot boxes. That seat was vacant until 2013. Twenty friggin thirteen.

If we don't expand the court then it will remain dark red for 30+ years.

[KPN]

14. And its not just the SC that needs to be expanded. District Courts need to be expanded

in order to unpack what the minority party has been doing the past 10 years (obstructing for 6 packing for 4) at that level as well. Pay for the expansion via wealth taxes -- hit em where it hurts, and hard!

[Demsrule86]

13. That is enough seats to add justices to the Senate. The filibuster for SCOTUS is gone.

And we will end the filibuster for policy as soon as take over. Teach Mitch and the GOP a lesson and save the Republic at the same time.

[Polybius]

16. In principle it's enough

But of our 53 seats or so that we'll have, I see at least a few voting no.

[Demsrule86]

24. Anyone that votes no faces a primary. We have to send help to the people and

a GOP packed 6=3 court won't work.

[jorgevlorgan]

17. We don't know how many seats we win

We might not even take the Senate. We could win well over 60. This isn't something to actually seriously consider until after the election.

[FM123]

18. I wish we could just impeach and remove Kav from the bench

and replace him with someone fantastic like Leondra Kruger or Ketanji Brown Jackson.....

[Dial H For Hero]

21. Not going to happen. You'd need a dozen or so Republicans to vote for it.

[Tarc]

25. Biden is not going to increase the size of the S.C., this is a dead issue

Let this be a lesson to every dirtbag Jill Stein-bot and every Susan Sarandon humper;

Amy Barrett is on their hands.

[JCMach1]

26. It's a test, we will need to same to save ACA and for DC and PR statehood...

[Polybius]

27. I had my doubts, but Joe Manchin is officially against it

https://wtov9.com/news/local/senator-joe-manchin-supreme-court-amy-coney-barrett-affordable-care-act

[GulfCoast66]

28. Good god people. Even FDR almost sank himself over this.

It’s not happening.

Let’s first win the senate then get wrapped up in this kind of debate. Oh, and the White House as well.

Because we have won jack-shit yet. Don’t lose the plot at the last hour.

[0rganism]

29. what a nice problem that would be

i truly hope we have the opportunity to explore the issue in a less hypothetical manner come 2021