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helpisontheway

(5,378 posts)
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:15 PM Oct 2020

Biden needs to come up with a better option regarding stacking the courts

The stupid media will not let it go. Even Reverend Al was asking Simone Sanders about it today. We are giving the media and the stupid ass Republicans a talking point.

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Biden needs to come up with a better option regarding stacking the courts (Original Post) helpisontheway Oct 2020 OP
"We'll see what happens." SoonerPride Oct 2020 #1
Exactly. The media is why we have a mass Rice4VP Oct 2020 #5
No answer will ever be good enough. Rice4VP Oct 2020 #2
unstack them by prosecuting the unqualified judges for Beachnutt Oct 2020 #3
That won't happen. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #7
Not going to happen. dware Oct 2020 #10
Actually, the media needs to be called out on their BS . JI7 Oct 2020 #4
Who cares? Biden says he will see where we are after the election and says that no Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #6
Exactly. Case closed. LakeArenal Oct 2020 #28
Right. Those media are serving the right wing, Hortensis Oct 2020 #32
Biden isn't the president...yet... agingdem Oct 2020 #8
Short term strategy, do not answer the mainscream media's questions. backscatter712 Oct 2020 #9
the people asking that question are NOT VOTING FOR BIDEN no matter what the answer is! BamaRefugee Oct 2020 #12
this ! dweller Oct 2020 #17
Hear hear! KatyMan Oct 2020 #27
People asking repeatedly are baiting Joe. LakeArenal Oct 2020 #29
That was exactly what FDR said in 1937 when he tried it. former9thward Oct 2020 #30
There will always be a Republican talking point. Shermann Oct 2020 #11
Biden simply needs to say "we'll let you know in about 2 weeks" ad nauseaum BamaRefugee Oct 2020 #13
How about this? heckles65 Oct 2020 #14
Face it, the 'cons with 'stacking', are winning the label game again, empedocles Oct 2020 #15
The Republicans stacked it Shermann Oct 2020 #18
It should be called "expanding the court" to match the complicated and huge workload. Boogiemack Oct 2020 #16
They don't have a "huge workload" former9thward Oct 2020 #31
Impeach unqualified Justices and Judges. The Wizard Oct 2020 #19
"Concern" noted. Tarc Oct 2020 #20
I'm as "concerned" as you are... agingdem Oct 2020 #22
Just needs to say he is looking to reform the courts and take the politics out. andym Oct 2020 #21
Simple statement: TheProle Oct 2020 #23
Agree, this is framing issue. The GOP are the ones packing radius777 Oct 2020 #24
He needs to say.... grobertj Oct 2020 #25
Are you talking about unpacking the courts that have been Greybnk48 Oct 2020 #26
This seems influenced by RW-serving media. Hortensis Oct 2020 #33
How about leftofthestorm Oct 2020 #34
Call it "rightsizing" Retrograde Oct 2020 #35
Just Answer By Saying: UCmeNdc Oct 2020 #36

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
1. "We'll see what happens."
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:17 PM
Oct 2020

That’s all he needs to say.

If the media says that’s not an answer, Joe can say “ go tell that to the president.”

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
2. No answer will ever be good enough.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:18 PM
Oct 2020

They should come say “you people asking about Hillary’s emails and ignoring Trump’s crap is how we got in this mess”

No one who is voting for Biden cares about this question.

Beachnutt

(8,909 posts)
3. unstack them by prosecuting the unqualified judges for
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:18 PM
Oct 2020

perjury during confirmation hearings. start wih kavanaugh.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
6. Who cares? Biden says he will see where we are after the election and says that no
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:19 PM
Oct 2020

justice should be approved before the new president is sworn in...mentions Merrick Garland's names and accuses the GOP of stacking the court in order to do away with the ACA and Roe.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
28. Exactly. Case closed.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 09:26 PM
Oct 2020

Personally I don’t think it would help dump any if Joe responded, “You betcha!
Just like you have to the lower courts.”

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Right. Those media are serving the right wing,
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 10:48 PM
Oct 2020

now as in 2016.

Right now the publicans are packing the carts with right wing extremistS serving them.

Biden is not letting dishonest, wealth-serving media drive his decisions, a losing response. And by the way, this would be Congress’s decisions, not the president’s.

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
8. Biden isn't the president...yet...
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:20 PM
Oct 2020

at this point we've got to win the election...deal with covid and get people working again, rescue the economy, rejoin the global community...and then deal with the courts

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
9. Short term strategy, do not answer the mainscream media's questions.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:20 PM
Oct 2020

Is Biden gonna pack SCOTUS or not? Biden should keep it a mystery - keeps that gun pointed at Moscow Mitch.

Aside from that, what do you mean by "better option"? The tactic is simple. Congress passes a bill, and Biden signs it, increasing the number of justices from 9 to 13, then appoint 4 liberals to make a progressive majority. Easy-peasy.

Don't make excuses for it, don't apologize, don't even bother watching the polls about it, just fucking do it. Let the fascists scream. Their pain is my joy.

Democrats must learn to be more ruthless.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
30. That was exactly what FDR said in 1937 when he tried it.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 10:41 PM
Oct 2020

The blowback was so great he lost his domestic agenda for the rest of his presidency.

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
11. There will always be a Republican talking point.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:22 PM
Oct 2020

Sean Hannity makes like $43 million a year. He's not going to show up for work at Fox and be like "well, Biden kept his nose pretty clean. No talking points today. I got nuthin!".

They are getting skittish about their last hurrah being nullified and kicking up as much dust as possible. I'm already masked up so the dust doesn't bother me.

heckles65

(631 posts)
14. How about this?
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:29 PM
Oct 2020

"The Supreme Court was meant to be a discussion group with different views of of the law, not a nine person legislature. If all viewpoints are not represented, it will be my duty to see that they are."

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
15. Face it, the 'cons with 'stacking', are winning the label game again,
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:29 PM
Oct 2020

- just like 'defund' problem.

The Election looming, is no time for liberal, finessing, fine pointing, parsing, righteousness, etc.

Dems need a clear, defendable message

 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
16. It should be called "expanding the court" to match the complicated and huge workload.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:30 PM
Oct 2020

The Constitution must also be looked at with an eye to updating to match the intent to the needs of today's Democracy or Republic, whatever you prefer to call it. The founding fathers never contemplated and Internet or which "militias" or automatic assault weapons in the hands of ordinary citizen. They also never imagined that women and black would refuse to be subjugated to an unjust, unfair, and patriarchal society either.

Not just the SCOTUS needs to be expanded but the lower appellate courts also.

AND CONGRESS NEEDS TO PASS LEGISLATION TO CODIFY VOTING RIGHTS FOR ALL NATIONAL ELECTIONS

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
22. I'm as "concerned" as you are...
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 08:43 PM
Oct 2020

Joe doesn't need to respond to this ...most people have no clue what court-packing is and they don't care...they do care about eradicating covid, jobs, reviving the economy, and getting their kids back in school safely...if court-packing is the GOP's last best bogeyman ..happy to disappoint them

andym

(6,066 posts)
21. Just needs to say he is looking to reform the courts and take the politics out.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 08:09 PM
Oct 2020

No more needed.

TheProle

(3,980 posts)
23. Simple statement:
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 08:59 PM
Oct 2020

All legal remedies remain on the table until this chapter in our history is closed.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
24. Agree, this is framing issue. The GOP are the ones packing
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 09:09 PM
Oct 2020

the court, to the point of ramming through a RW justice weeks before an election - yet somehow Dems/Biden are being put on the spot on this.

Biden should simply answer that it is the Repubs who have packed the courts and as a result we may need court reform in the future, but it's a hypothetical at this point and he would look into it if elected. He should also reiterate that he would always follow the Constitution (which says nothing about the size of the courts).

grobertj

(240 posts)
25. He needs to say....
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 09:13 PM
Oct 2020

I'm not the guy who's stacking the court. That guy is Donald Trump with the help of Moscow Mitch. Never in the history of the Republic has a Supreme Court justice been approved only a few days from he election.

Greybnk48

(10,724 posts)
26. Are you talking about unpacking the courts that have been
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 09:16 PM
Oct 2020

Stacked/packed with incompetents by Moscow Mitch and the Trump cult?

We need to address this full on. It’s important that our courts are not full of crazy ideology and zealots. We need to seat a lot more people of color asap.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. This seems influenced by RW-serving media.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 10:52 PM
Oct 2020

The supreme court and lower courts are being packed right now by the current Republican Congress, with Trump signing off.

The 118th Congress will decide whether to allow right wing stacked courts to stand, a potentially huge problem that promises to betray the people practically and ideologically, and work with that or to take Another action to change it.

One of the few things that Trump has read off the Teleprompter that are true is that elections have consequences. But that doesn’t mean we’re gonna roll over for them.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
35. Call it "rightsizing"
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 10:55 PM
Oct 2020

a favorite term in corporations when they want to get rid of a large percentage of their employees. How could the GOP possibly object to rightsizing the courts?

UCmeNdc

(9,655 posts)
36. Just Answer By Saying:
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 11:05 PM
Oct 2020

Mitch McConnell changed the rules and packed the supreme court, after refusing to hold hearings for Judge Merrick Garland during the Obama Administration and has been packing the courts ever since. Mitch McConnell and the GOP has been packing the court for years now.

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