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turbinetree

(27,474 posts)
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 10:14 AM Oct 2020

CNBC Delivers Another Hot Take On Why People Making $400,000 Are Barely Getting By

Politics 10/12/20 4:35am Read time: 6 minutes



This may not be the stupidest argument against taxing the rich we've see lately, but it's trying hard.
By Laura Clawson


Joe Biden is promising to raise taxes only on families making $400,000 or more each year—the top 1.8% of taxpayers. Here to explain why that will really hit middle-class families is CNBC with the latest contribution to the “why rich people are really barely making it” genre. No, really. Experts say!

“Based on the expenses, a $400,000 household income provides for a relatively middle-class lifestyle,” one personal finance website guy claimed. “A middle-class lifestyle is defined as: owning a home, having two kids, saving for retirement, saving for college, going on modest vacations several weeks a year, and retiring in one’s early 60s.” Ha ha ha, yeah, okay. In other words: “A middle-class lifestyle is defined as: a bunch of stuff out of reach for most people in this country who consider themselves middle-class, transferred to one of the 10 most expensive cities in the country. Middle-class, I tell you!”

Let’s take a look at the sample budget provided for a family with $400,000 in income in an expensive city. These highly representative imaginary people end the year with just $34 left over after all their budgeted expenses—really a hand-to-mouth existence all provided courtesy of CNBC wanting to argue that Biden’s proposal to tax the rich is mean to the middle class. So how does this family spend the $260,530 that’s left after taxes and $39,000 in 401(k) contributions? (Because they have to be able to retire in their early 60s or they won't count as middle-class, apparently.)

We’re starting with a family of four, which is a perfectly reasonable family size, but let’s not forget that poor people are often judged for having “more kids than they can afford.” So this “middle-class” family in the top 2% of earners is getting a pass on something that might be questioned if they were trying to scrape together a full-time schedule at McDonald’s.

Posted with permission from Daily Kos

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/10/cnbc-delivers-another-hot-take-why-people

Every fucking election cycle the public gets the whining self pity rich people not having anything left over BS...and screen capture headlines..........."Warning Signs From the Wealthy"......FU............

I lost my 401K when United went bankrupt under the ESOP program that Wall Street hated.
I pay more in taxes with my Social Security than the asshole presently sitting in the white house and these $400,000 a year assholes don't have enough for vacation, fuck that shit, and I pay more in taxes than lets say Wells Fargo, Amazon have paid in taxes which is fucking zero, and I don't make enough to hide in the Cayman Islands...............

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CNBC Delivers Another Hot Take On Why People Making $400,000 Are Barely Getting By (Original Post) turbinetree Oct 2020 OP
Fuck'em Cirque du So-What Oct 2020 #1
Yepper spot on................ turbinetree Oct 2020 #2
Yup -- FUCK 'EM Blue Owl Oct 2020 #8
In FL, that's a TAKE HOME PAY of $5,800 PER WEEK! Roland99 Oct 2020 #3
Tax them and their churches till their eyes bleed. nt Hotler Oct 2020 #4
People who make $400k usually live a $400k lifestyle. Buckeyeblue Oct 2020 #5
This is a self inflicted financial wound. RazzleCat Oct 2020 #6
We make less than that MissB Oct 2020 #7
If having so much money is so stressful... Hugin Oct 2020 #9
They can fuck off and try to live on $40,000 Wawannabe Oct 2020 #10
That's what I was going to say. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2020 #11

Blue Owl

(58,986 posts)
8. Yup -- FUCK 'EM
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:09 AM
Oct 2020

I'm so sick of "the system" and the wealthy not paying their share of taxes, which would solve so many poverty issues.

In the end it simply comes down to GREED. And I've had enough of the greedy fuckers and their GOP enablers.

Roland99

(53,345 posts)
3. In FL, that's a TAKE HOME PAY of $5,800 PER WEEK!
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 10:29 AM
Oct 2020

I'd have my mortgage paid off in about 4-5 years with that much extra what I make now

Or we could go on a 7-10 day cruise...every month. Or I could buy two new cars per year....in cash.

Buckeyeblue

(6,348 posts)
5. People who make $400k usually live a $400k lifestyle.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 10:35 AM
Oct 2020

When money goes. It goes. I don't make $400k but I try to live on less than what i make. Big, new houses and cars are a bad expenditures in my opinion.

MissB

(16,344 posts)
7. We make less than that
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 10:42 AM
Oct 2020

This year we may pop over that and if this tax is applied to 2020 income, DH and I will happily pay the extra, because we should pay more in taxes if we make that much.

People that earn under that amount - like anything over $200k- should be living a comfy life. If you can’t survive on 400k while putting a helluva a lot of it away and paying a higher tax rate then you’re doing something seriously wrong.

Hugin

(37,834 posts)
9. If having so much money is so stressful...
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:14 AM
Oct 2020

They can always give it to me. I'll shoulder the burden!

Wawannabe

(6,890 posts)
10. They can fuck off and try to live on $40,000
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:47 AM
Oct 2020

Like me and a million others!

$400,000 not enough??

MY FUCKING ASS !

leftyladyfrommo

(19,986 posts)
11. That's what I was going to say.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:53 AM
Oct 2020

Poor souls. If they can't make it how about all us $40,000 and under. And we make it.

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