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Biden extends lead over Trump to 17 points (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2020 OP
Not a real poll. GOTV PSPS Oct 2020 #1
It absolutely is a real poll Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #3
Online polls are not real polls. In any case, GOTV. That's the only poll that matters! PSPS Oct 2020 #4
Simply not true Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #5
Why argue? Less talky, more vote-y! Three weeks to the only poll that matters! PSPS Oct 2020 #9
I already voted Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #10
Polls help protect elections from being stolen Tom Rinaldo Oct 2020 #8
This is correct Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #13
Hillary Clinton lost by 80 thousand votes. joshcryer Oct 2020 #11
Not enough, don't let your guard down. GemDigger Oct 2020 #2
And Zogby has Joe up just 2.1 points krawhitham Oct 2020 #6
Hmmm DeminPennswoods Oct 2020 #12
Zogby. roamer65 Oct 2020 #15
Wow! So happy to see this! tormadjax Oct 2020 #7
Online poll Polybius Oct 2020 #14
GOTV BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 #16

Johnny2X2X

(24,435 posts)
3. It absolutely is a real poll
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 12:00 PM
Oct 2020

They have a good sample and then adjust for known demographics. Is it an outlier? Probably a bit, but +17 is probably closer to the truth than +5 right now.

538 includes it in their average even thought they don't rate it. Average is now Biden +10.6.

PSPS

(15,376 posts)
4. Online polls are not real polls. In any case, GOTV. That's the only poll that matters!
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 12:02 PM
Oct 2020

Johnny2X2X

(24,435 posts)
5. Simply not true
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 12:06 PM
Oct 2020

AS long as they are live and bot proof they are valid. This isn't like some Twitter poll where anyone can click a button, change their IP address and then click it again.

These are online interviews conducted in real time, then adjusted for demographics like every other poll.

PSPS

(15,376 posts)
9. Why argue? Less talky, more vote-y! Three weeks to the only poll that matters!
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 01:11 PM
Oct 2020

It's a horrible mistake to take an outlier poll like this (or any poll, for that matter) seriously. It only fosters complacency.

Johnny2X2X

(24,435 posts)
10. I already voted
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 01:17 PM
Oct 2020

Understanding reality is not a bad thing, ever. Biden is way ahead, people knowing this will not depress voter turnout for Dems, but it may for Reps.

The USC Dorn life polls were the only polls that had Trump winning in 2016, right now they have Biden by 13 or 14. So 17 is not that far of.

2020 is not 2016.

Tom Rinaldo

(23,195 posts)
8. Polls help protect elections from being stolen
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

If polls show Biden winning in a landslide it makes it much more dangerous and unlikely to work out the way Trump wants if he attempts to steal the election anyway.

Johnny2X2X

(24,435 posts)
13. This is correct
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 01:45 PM
Oct 2020

Polls are valuable. People are just shell shocked from 2016 still, this is a blowout right now and the clock is running out. Also, 11 million people have already voted!

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
11. Hillary Clinton lost by 80 thousand votes.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 01:22 PM
Oct 2020

The Electoral College is rigged in favor of Republicans. It gives them a 3+ point advantage. Depress the vote and make anyone think it is a foregone conclusion, and you have a Trump presidency. Everyone, must, fucking, vote.

DeminPennswoods

(17,580 posts)
12. Hmmm
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 01:24 PM
Oct 2020
Using information based on census data, voter registration figures, CIA fact books and exit polls, we use complex weighting techniques to best represent the demographics of the population being surveyed. Weighted variables may include age, race, gender, region, party, education, and religion.


Never seen a poll that used "CIA fact books" or "exit polls" in its weighting algorithm.

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