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PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 06:19 AM Oct 2020

I just found out that Savannah Guthrie

graduated from my old high school, Amphitheater HS in Tucson, AZ. Good for her. Great school. Heck, she might even have had some of the same teachers I had.

On a semi-related note, I was on a tour of Amphi on our 50th reunion (yeah, I'm old) and in one part of the school we saw some kids inside of one of the rooms. Some of us cheerfully invaded that room and told the kids the we (all of us obviously very old people) had graduated some fifty years earlier. We, the old people, knew those kids couldn't possibly relate to us, because we remember what it was like to be their age. But we made a point of telling them to remember us, and hopefully, some fifty years on, they will pass a similar message to young students at that high school. And the reach will then be 100 years to the past. Wow.

On a similar note, I was on the Mall in Washington DC on July 4, 1976, our nation's Bicentennial. It was fabulous, trust me. I have recently decided I will be on the Mall on July 4, 2026, our nation's 250th, whatever the correct name will be for that. I plan to tell every single person I see that I was there fifty years earlier. And I've already told my son that he will be there with me (you can see him rolling his eyes, can't you?). He has a good chance of being around in 2076. He'll only be 93 that year, and especially on his father's side, they live well into their 90s. I want him to be on the Mall on July 4, 2076, and tell everyone he sees that he was there fifty years earlier, and his parents were both there 100 years earlier. True. I was there and so was his dad. We didn't meet until about three years later. What is especially cool about this is that none of his 8 great grandparents (my four grandparents, his father's four grandparents) had even been born in 1876, during the nation's Centennial. It's just a happenstance of when people were born that he can be on the Mall 100 years after his parents were there. I'm only sorry I won't be around to see him then.

I love these kinds of connections.

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I just found out that Savannah Guthrie (Original Post) PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 OP
July 4 1976 Maggiemayhem Oct 2020 #1
Hudson River, NYC, amazing fireworks 💥! 7-4-76 secondwind Oct 2020 #2
---- The Parade of Sails on the Hudson. 3Hotdogs Oct 2020 #3
Yes I remember the tall ships in the Boston Harbor in July 1976 FakeNoose Oct 2020 #7
I was living in Fort Lee, NJ that year, just a quarter mile from the GW Bridge..... George II Oct 2020 #13
I also was on the Mall July 4, 1976 escorting some French visitors through the Smithsonian erronis Oct 2020 #4
I was a docent at the Natural History Museum of the Smithsonian PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #15
I was 9 years old on July 4, 1976. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #5
1976 mac2766 Oct 2020 #6
Passing the baton. An important way to personalize history as we are living it. NT ALBliberal Oct 2020 #8
:). My grandmother, whom I knew, was born Hortensis Oct 2020 #9
Same TuxedoKat Oct 2020 #10
We had the best years the country had to offer... Hulk Oct 2020 #11
I was in Moscow on July 4, 1976, lol. I feel like a republican now. catbyte Oct 2020 #12
What a cool pic, catbyte! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #21
Yeah, I was a Political Science major in college and went there for 2 weeks. We went to catbyte Oct 2020 #23
What an amazing experience! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #25
That's interesting. To be honest I had no idea where she was from originally. It's always fun.... George II Oct 2020 #14
Semiquincentennial ...got curious and looked it up. DeeNice Oct 2020 #16
Thank you. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #17
Let's just use Roman numerals! csziggy Oct 2020 #18
That has possibilities. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #19
Yes, it has a noce ring to it. csziggy Oct 2020 #20
That is very cool. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #22
Connections...when I was six years old--1959--I met a very old man... First Speaker Oct 2020 #24
Wow. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #26

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. Hudson River, NYC, amazing fireworks 💥! 7-4-76
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:04 AM
Oct 2020

Daughter was seven. Thrilled to be able to stay up and see with her own eyes!

3Hotdogs

(15,369 posts)
3. ---- The Parade of Sails on the Hudson.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:11 AM
Oct 2020

Friend's wife worked in an office around 20 floor up on the World Trade Center, Twin Towers. Her company opened the floor for employees and friends to watch the ships from their windows.

=== and the '"electric, wonderful" party-like atmosphere on the streets in the time between the ships and the fireworks.

FakeNoose

(41,637 posts)
7. Yes I remember the tall ships in the Boston Harbor in July 1976
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:57 AM
Oct 2020

I brought my son who was just 6 at the time, and he still remembers that day. By the time the tall ships got to Boston, I believe it was about a week after the Bicentennial, but we didn't care. They were in the New York harbor for the 4th of July.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. I was living in Fort Lee, NJ that year, just a quarter mile from the GW Bridge.....
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:24 AM
Oct 2020

I rode my bicycle to the Palisades and watched the ships from cliffside. Somewhere in a box I have lots of pictures from that day.

July 4 was on Sunday that year. At the time I was working weekends in a hospital in Manhattan (midnight to 8AM), and on my way home that Saturday morning there were dozen of Navy ships lined up in the middle of the Hudson River. It almost looked like the Russian fleet had invaded and overtaken NYC overnight.

They were there as part of the show, several of them later docked at the piers on the West Side and were open for visitors and tours.

Hard to believe that was 45 years ago already.

erronis

(23,882 posts)
4. I also was on the Mall July 4, 1976 escorting some French visitors through the Smithsonian
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:17 AM
Oct 2020

We went first to the Air & Space Museum and marveled at the models of the satellites and space capsules on display. A lunar rover was also there - looked like it was made of plastics and tinfoil.

Then we went to the Bicentennial Exhibit in the Castle where many artifacts from 200 years ago were shown. Lots of brass and polished wood and meticulous handiwork. I remember saying something like "They don't make things like this, anymore." Then I thought of the plastics and tinfoil of the rover and realized that we do make incredible things still, just for different purposes.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
15. I was a docent at the Natural History Museum of the Smithsonian
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:54 PM
Oct 2020

in 1975 and 1976. I was supposed to give tours in French, because they thought with the Bicentennial coming up, there would be a demand for tours in other languages. I only ever gave one, but it was giant fun.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. I was 9 years old on July 4, 1976.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:37 AM
Oct 2020

Watched the events on my paternal grandparents old console TV in North Louisiana.

That afternoon we drove to my maternal grandparents farmhouse in South Arkansas for a fish fry and we shot off fireworks after dark. Remember it like yesterday. Simpler times for sure.

 

mac2766

(658 posts)
6. 1976
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:44 AM
Oct 2020

What a great summer that was. Festivals, carnivals, etc... It was a great time to be a young person. Who remembers the performances by Bruce (Caitlyn) Jenner and Nadia Comaneci in the Olympics that year?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. :). My grandmother, whom I knew, was born
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:02 AM
Oct 2020

in the early 1870s. Her grandparents were born in the napoleonic wars era in Europe, when almost all people were poor to desperately poor by our standards.

After all, although the birth of the Industrial Age is set as 1750 in England, by FAR most people then were still living the last of the Agricultural Age, very much as 20,000 years of their ancestors had.

My grandma’s grandma. SOOO share your marveling. If we could hop a bicycle into the past, we’d probably pedal back through another 50 years with each block or so. Long before we finished the first mile, the world we passed through would see almost no change in how people lived and struggled to subsist, except during periods of famine, major disease outbreak, war.



TuxedoKat

(3,843 posts)
10. Same
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:07 AM
Oct 2020

I love the story about the high school students, I hope you took photos with them for them to show the kids of the future!

I was also in DC on 7/4/1976, but hadn't thought about being there on the 250th anniversary. Something to think about and plan for possibly. If I decide to go -- I'll let you know!

I love historical connections too.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
11. We had the best years the country had to offer...
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:09 AM
Oct 2020

As we reach the twilight of our lives, we reminisce about old time and yearn for our youth again, I always remind myself....we had the best years for our time in life.
No regrets! Thanks to our parents, relatives and friends that made it all possible.

catbyte

(39,154 posts)
12. I was in Moscow on July 4, 1976, lol. I feel like a republican now.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:13 AM
Oct 2020


But the Tall Ships did look incredible when we flew past New York Harbor on our way to Kennedy.

Edited to add:

Me on July 4, 1976:

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. What a cool pic, catbyte!
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 06:52 PM
Oct 2020

What was it like there back then? Did you go as a student? I would love to hear more about your trip if you are so inclined.

I studied in Vienna through my university in 1983 and we took a school trip to Hungary and it was a bit of a shock to our young American eyes. We took a train through what was Yugoslavia at the time to get to Greece for our vacations, which was also another interesting experience. I can never hear enough about people's travels, especially in that part of the world before it opened up.

catbyte

(39,154 posts)
23. Yeah, I was a Political Science major in college and went there for 2 weeks. We went to
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:46 PM
Oct 2020

Moscow, Leningrad, and Kiev. It was fascinating. I went to college at a school near Grand Rapids, MI and we lucked out because we piggybacked with a group of Jerry Ford's friends who went on an art tour. Because the folks we teamed up with were friends of the President, we were treated like royalty. They pretty much did their thing while we did ours, meeting with Soviet journalists and politicians while they toured museums. We spent a lot of time with Vladimir Pozner Jr (the journalist/tv presenter, not his dad the writer) who was fascinating. Although we did see a really cool exhibit of Scythian Gold at the Hermitage in Leningrad and saw the Kirov Ballet perform Swan Lake at the Bolshoi. We toured a Young Pioneers camp outside of Kiev and visited the memorial at Babi Yar. It was really intense. To know you were standing at such a place was soul shaking. WWII was still so prevalent--bombed out buildings outside of Kiev that they refused to raze, T-34 tanks, memorials everywhere. There were even engraved little brass plates above bullet holes in buildings in all three cities. When you lose 20,000,000 people, it leaves a tremendous scar. And it had been only 30 years at the time. We were in Leningrad during the White Nights Festival. It was so strange to see daylight at 3 a.m. We got to see the Winter Palace outside of the city. It was wonderful. And the Moscow subway system looked like an art museum--so different than NYC, lol.

I could go on and on. It was such an experience. My late husband spent the summer in Yugoslavia in the late 1970s and he said it was a real trip. I've heard that Vienna is gorgeous.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
25. What an amazing experience!
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:08 PM
Oct 2020

It must have been thrilling! One of these days, you should start a post about this adventure and tell us everything. I can never get enough of it!

Vienna is absolutely beautiful. Such a romantic and charming city. You feel like you are living in a fairy tale when you are there. I loved every minute of it. We traveled most weekends to other Austrian towns such as Salzburg, Halstatt, Graz, Gmunden. Went skiing on the Dachstein glacier. Went to the Oktoberfest in Munich. We met people from all over the world. I could tell some amazing stories which opened my mind in ways I could have never imagined. It changed me as a person. For the better, I am sure.

And when we were in the city there were all these charming little wine towns on the outskirts of the city that were postcard perfect, where you would sit outside under a grapevine and have "sturm" which is a young wine - kind of like a cider - and dine on Viennese salads and other specialties. It was such a wonderful time. I hope to go back again. I am suddenly getting very nostalgic.

In some ways, I think that all young people should be given a chance to travel since I think it is one of the best educations that one could have. It broadens your horizons in ways people can't understand and I think that most people who have traveled extensively are almost always liberal (unless they are strictly business travelers). But unfortunately, there are too many people who are just not curious or open. It's unfortunate, because they are missing out on one of life's greatest experiences.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. That's interesting. To be honest I had no idea where she was from originally. It's always fun....
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:31 AM
Oct 2020

....to learn that famous people attended our schools.

I'd completely forgotten about it until 15-20 years ago, but Jerry Nadler was in my home room class in High School. Eric Holder and I overlapped one year, and a couple of years later David Axelrod came along. Axelrod grew up right across the street from our High School.

Two other students of note, WAY before me, were James Cagney and Robert Alda.

Obviously at the time Nadler was unremarkable, just another face in the crowd - back then classes had about 40 students, and we were too busy struggling to get through the courses and hours of homework to do much socializing. Plus it was a city-wide school, my trip was about 90 minutes each way (a bus and two subway trains to lower Manhattan)

I had some interesting, famous, and infamous people go to my college too. In my freshman class was a guy who ultimately became a famous astronomer who won the Nobel Prize for Physics in the 1990s. It was pretty exciting to hear that he won. The classes were much smaller and we got to know the other students more than in High School.

Another famous alumni was Thomas Edison (no, I didn't know him) and an infamous alumni was Jeffrey Epstein.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
17. Thank you.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:05 PM
Oct 2020

It is a bit of a mouthful. It means half five hundred years. I have a feeling that it won't become common usage.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
18. Let's just use Roman numerals!
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:03 PM
Oct 2020

CCL - and make it stand for something.

Country
Continuity
Legacy

There is probably something better, this was just off the top of my head. People are used to using acronyms so we can make something that uses the acronym CCL

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
20. Yes, it has a noce ring to it.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 06:25 PM
Oct 2020

I won't be in DC for the CCL - never gone anywhere for the Fourth. Being in Florida the only reasonable place to go in July is the beach - or a sinkhole - to swim, but too many others think of that so I don't go.

1976 I was finishing college and rooting for my mother who made the Bicentennial Quilt for Polk County, Florida. I'm not sure where that quilt ended up, it might be in the county archives or it might have been raffled off. She left a band around the outside and people paid to sign it. Some of the volunteers embroidered the signatures, others actually quilted the pieced work top. Mom designed and sewed the piecework.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
22. That is very cool.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:04 PM
Oct 2020

Quilting had a huge revival in the mid-70s, and I saw lots of wonderful Bicentennial Quilts at the time.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
24. Connections...when I was six years old--1959--I met a very old man...
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:03 PM
Oct 2020

...who remembered Lincoln's assassination. And who talked himself to a very old man, who was an eyewitness to the Battle of Concord. We're all part of history...

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
26. Wow.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:54 PM
Oct 2020

You talked to a man who had talked to a man who was an eyewitness to the Battle of Concord. That's amazing. And how lucky you have been.

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