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Nevilledog

(55,080 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:59 AM Oct 2020

Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested



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Donald Trump suggested last night that he has $400 million in debt. He does not. He owes more than $1 billion. We have the documents, and you can see them here.

Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested
The president’s liabilities are spelled out in dozens of documents, published here.
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Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2020 OP
And his supporters think because they have $4000 in debt they can't pay, LakeArenal Oct 2020 #1
So, over twice as many lenders did him "a favor"??? Rorey Oct 2020 #2
When their child hits eighteen Harker Oct 2020 #13
I doubt she'll wait that long. MoonRiver Oct 2020 #34
she sure wouldn't wanna be responsible for 1B dept should trump die AlexSFCA Oct 2020 #38
Depends on how smart she was with the prenup. MoonRiver Oct 2020 #53
Could well be... Harker Oct 2020 #55
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Oct 2020 #3
Has anyone ever told you you are wonderful? My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #29
LOL malaise Oct 2020 #42
I guess Melania's Pre-Nup is on the line. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2020 #4
Tuff luck, Malaria, half of SFA is still SFA ironflange Oct 2020 #23
This is where the Missing Inagural money went bottomofthehill Oct 2020 #37
More proof that the Steele Dossier is true. Botany Oct 2020 #5
Trump seldom pays off his debts, from what I understand. When you have someone's BComplex Oct 2020 #8
There's a huge problem with that theory jmowreader Oct 2020 #17
What's the problem with the Mafia doing him in? Saves us money from prosecuting him. KS Toronado Oct 2020 #27
Go back to what you first said... jmowreader Oct 2020 #44
Confusing me with someone else? KS Toronado Oct 2020 #52
Trump in the past has had debt in his COMPANIES. Statistical Oct 2020 #20
And, The Organization Has At Least... ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #41
He's not a billionaire, but he plays one on TV groundloop Oct 2020 #48
Literally! ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #51
trUmpie promised to produce all the documents to help his fellow country folk get a better grasp,... magicarpet Oct 2020 #6
I Must Have Missed That Part of the Curriculum COL Mustard Oct 2020 #46
k&r for the truth. n/t Laelth Oct 2020 #7
And thanks to his incompetence dealing with the CV-19 pandemic, OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2020 #9
SURPRISE! ...and October is barely half over...nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #10
The $400 million is just the debt that is due in the next few years. subterranean Oct 2020 #11
I think the $421,000,000 part is guaranteed by his word & his honesty, more or less. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #12
So when Don the Con said he's a billionaire.... mwooldri Oct 2020 #14
So he's not just getting kneecapped after getting booted out of the white house? ffr Oct 2020 #15
Trump would sell off Malignia to MBS to put in his harem, Ilsa Oct 2020 #24
High maintenance AND high mileage. LaMouffette Oct 2020 #30
LOL. nt Ilsa Oct 2020 #35
He might get more money selling off Barron. generalbetrayus Oct 2020 #43
Naw, she just needs a bit of discipline to aid in her adjustment. Ligyron Oct 2020 #47
Maybe his supporters will set up a GoFundMe. phylny Oct 2020 #45
k&r BSdetect Oct 2020 #16
But, but, but.. He's a grrreat businessman. Denvermosaic Oct 2020 #18
Don the Con - broke as conman milking the benefits of American presidency.. nt iluvtennis Oct 2020 #19
Kick dalton99a Oct 2020 #21
He's a conman. Put him in jail, marble falls Oct 2020 #22
There go state secrets and monitizing intelligence moonscape Oct 2020 #25
I've tried to make this same point before too ScratchCat Oct 2020 #31
And it's not just him but the whole family. Jared, Ivanka, moonscape Oct 2020 #54
And to think DENVERPOPS Oct 2020 #26
Just a tiny amount liberal N proud Oct 2020 #28
$433M comes due in 2020 and $2,321M comes due in 2021, that's $2.3 billion dollars ffr Oct 2020 #32
That's a lot of golf courses. Kid Berwyn Oct 2020 #36
Donald TRUMP - I'm your Puppet Celerity Oct 2020 #33
1 billion in debts but what about his net worth? I always thought he had a negative net worth. Now I Pepsidog Oct 2020 #39
Fore's has to guess... reACTIONary Oct 2020 #50
I can't wait ouija Oct 2020 #40
Financial whiz kid Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2020 #49
Why the hell have lenders never gone after Trump for these debts? Tyfairbanks600 Oct 2020 #56
Donald is the biggest conman in world history Tyfairbanks600 Oct 2020 #57
That is why Trump moved his residency to Florida Dirty Socialist Oct 2020 #58
Trump's never personally gone bankrupt Tyfairbanks600 Oct 2020 #59
Rt.. & trump is STEALING from US Taxpayers NOW. Cha Oct 2020 #60

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
1. And his supporters think because they have $4000 in debt they can't pay,
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:00 AM
Oct 2020

Think Trump is great.

MoonRiver

(36,975 posts)
34. I doubt she'll wait that long.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:17 PM
Oct 2020

As soon as Biden is sworn in, she and Barron are outta there (wherever that is).

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
38. she sure wouldn't wanna be responsible for 1B dept should trump die
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:27 PM
Oct 2020

better divorce asap.

My Pet Orangutan

(12,598 posts)
29. Has anyone ever told you you are wonderful?
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:02 PM
Oct 2020

OK. Yes. Ten thousand times.

Make this, ten thousand and 1.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,897 posts)
4. I guess Melania's Pre-Nup is on the line.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:03 AM
Oct 2020

For she had better have a few hundred million socked away because she is going to need it to keep her in the lifestyle she has been accustomed to . She loves the glitz and glamour with little effort on her part.

bottomofthehill

(9,390 posts)
37. This is where the Missing Inagural money went
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:25 PM
Oct 2020

Into Melonimas Rainey Day fund. Washed through her friends events company.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
5. More proof that the Steele Dossier is true.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:07 AM
Oct 2020

It said that Trump owes money to Russia (Deutsche Bank), China, and Saudi Arabia
and Trump has been using the Presidency to try to pay off those debts.

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
8. Trump seldom pays off his debts, from what I understand. When you have someone's
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:27 AM
Oct 2020

hundreds of millions of dollars, you own THEM, as much as they own you. They can't beat it out of him. All trump has to do is declare bankruptcy again, and poof! There goes their money altogether.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
17. There's a huge problem with that theory
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:25 PM
Oct 2020

He owes money to Russian organized crime syndicates. Probably also to American ones. You do NOT stiff the Mafia. They will kill you.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
44. Go back to what you first said...
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:45 PM
Oct 2020

...about the banks not being able to beat their money out of Trump.

The Mob isn’t so constrained. I figure if Trump is defeated he’ll be killed before the end of the week, his whole family will be killed in front of him, and no one will ever find the bodies.

To me that’s not a problem, but it may be to Trump.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
20. Trump in the past has had debt in his COMPANIES.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:29 PM
Oct 2020

So he could declare the company bankrupt and leave creditors with nothing. The problem is his credit rating has become such shit that he had to personally guarantee more recent loans. It isn't Trump's companies which owe $1B+ it is Trump who personally owes $1B+.

There is no bankruptcy process where if Donald declares bankruptcy say having $300M in assets and $1B in debts that the debts just magically go away and he walks away with the $300M. We are talking liquidation. Like the judge would appoint a trustee and that trustee would sell off his properties to raise funds to repay creditors. The creditors will never get the full amount because he is insolvent (more debts than assets) but they will take their pound of flesh.

That is the scenario Trump has been desperate to avoid. If he could have just declared BK and magiced all his debts away without losing anything he would have done that in 2016.

ProfessorGAC

(76,705 posts)
41. And, The Organization Has At Least...
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:37 PM
Oct 2020

...$6.5 billion in debt. At least! Might be over $7 billion.
And asset value has been adjusted down twice. He's not a billionaire. He might be totally underwater.

magicarpet

(18,511 posts)
6. trUmpie promised to produce all the documents to help his fellow country folk get a better grasp,...
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:07 AM
Oct 2020

... of these bank loan matters.

Don't you trust our great pResident ?

OAITW r.2.0

(32,133 posts)
9. And thanks to his incompetence dealing with the CV-19 pandemic,
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:28 AM
Oct 2020

his collateral - commercial real estate and golf resort holdings - are tanking. When the bill comes do, what will he do? Probably flip on Putin and spill the beans. Then he'll need to enter a witness protection program. ....

subterranean

(3,762 posts)
11. The $400 million is just the debt that is due in the next few years.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:40 AM
Oct 2020

He probably has more debt than that.

ffr

(23,398 posts)
15. So he's not just getting kneecapped after getting booted out of the white house?
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:55 AM
Oct 2020

No wonder he says he won't leave. For A BILLION DOLLARS I can only envision a lot of coincidental tRump family members falling into wood chippers.

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
24. Trump would sell off Malignia to MBS to put in his harem,
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:38 PM
Oct 2020

but MBS might want a refund after experiencing how high maintenance she is.

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
47. Naw, she just needs a bit of discipline to aid in her adjustment.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:02 PM
Oct 2020

The biggest problem for both of them would be she's approaching her expiration date. But that's what happens when you only asset is your looks.

phylny

(8,818 posts)
45. Maybe his supporters will set up a GoFundMe.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:50 PM
Oct 2020

They're stupid enough to want to bail him out.

moonscape

(5,722 posts)
25. There go state secrets and monitizing intelligence
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:40 PM
Oct 2020

once he leaves office. Super duper spy. The terror will continue after Biden's inauguration.

ScratchCat

(2,740 posts)
31. I've tried to make this same point before too
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

Its almost certain that once he is out of office, he will blurt out on Twitter - at minimum - something that is classified. Obviously, as you point out, he could sell off State secrets to the highest bidder as well. I've tried to explain this to my Republican friends and you just can't get through to them completely. Its always this "deer in the headlights" look you get when you explain simple things that they would be starting a civil war over if this guy had a (D) next to his name.

moonscape

(5,722 posts)
54. And it's not just him but the whole family. Jared, Ivanka,
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:57 PM
Oct 2020

Don Jr, Eric - they are all money-hungry grubbers without morals.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
26. And to think
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:47 PM
Oct 2020

that for a mere billion dollars (+ or -) , Putin has been able to bring down our Democracy and the entire U.S.

The Russian people are laughing at how easily Putin played Trump and the Republican Senators to bring down the U.S.

Without a war, without firing a single missile or rocket............

ffr

(23,398 posts)
32. $433M comes due in 2020 and $2,321M comes due in 2021, that's $2.3 billion dollars
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

In total he has roughly $6 billion in loans coming due in the next 4 years.
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Pepsidog

(6,365 posts)
39. 1 billion in debts but what about his net worth? I always thought he had a negative net worth. Now I
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:32 PM
Oct 2020

understand he maybe cash poor but here Forbe’s is saying his net worth is over 2 billion. That’s shocking to me

ouija

(465 posts)
40. I can't wait
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 01:35 PM
Oct 2020

To see those big gold letters being peeled of Trump Tower. That’s going to happen. Now if we can just keep him away from the nukes until January 20.

 

Tyfairbanks600

(51 posts)
56. Why the hell have lenders never gone after Trump for these debts?
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:15 PM
Oct 2020

Heck, why the hell do they even lend to him at this point, with his record of never repaying?

To be honest, the lenders seem even more irresponsible than Trump himself does.

 

Tyfairbanks600

(51 posts)
57. Donald is the biggest conman in world history
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:26 PM
Oct 2020

To be honest, I don’t think that most people would act that much differently than Trump if they got billion dollar loans that they would never have to repay, unless they felt like it.

However, most people would never get such ridiculous loans.

The main thing I want to know here is why the hell Trump keeps getting these loans.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
58. That is why Trump moved his residency to Florida
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:39 PM
Oct 2020

If and when he goes bankrupt again, he gets to keep his assets.
Florida politics is a shitshow.

 

Tyfairbanks600

(51 posts)
59. Trump's never personally gone bankrupt
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 06:28 PM
Oct 2020

He should have gone bankrupt in the early 90s, but somehow he negotiated his $900 million debt down to $150 million. And I doubt he even ended up paying that much.

To the extent Trump has business ability, it’s his ability to keep getting ridiculous loans, and never having to pay them back.

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