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NYT: A tRump supporting Cleveland printing company is 10 days late sending ballots out (Original Post) yaesu Oct 2020 OP
They should be sued and run out of business kimbutgar Oct 2020 #1
They should be prosecuted after Biden takes office. Crunchy Frog Oct 2020 #2
"they over promised and under delivered," Yonnie3 Oct 2020 #3
Incompetents hiring incompetents gratuitous Oct 2020 #4
Sounds like Trump's standard busness plan... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #13
Purposely? Me. Oct 2020 #5
Who knows? LisaL Oct 2020 #6
You can vote in person early, even if you have received absentee ballot. we can do it Oct 2020 #8
Not everybody can vote in person, early or otherwise. LisaL Oct 2020 #10
Yes, as I said, if at all possible. we can do it Oct 2020 #17
Not all physically disabled persons can even get into the vehicle. LisaL Oct 2020 #20
Lighten up Francis. we can do it Oct 2020 #21
I am talking about a particular disabled person who can't actually get into a vehicle LisaL Oct 2020 #22
My county, run by incompetent Republicans hired this company. PA Democrat Oct 2020 #7
As I understand it, PA now has in person early voting, which they call absentee voting. LisaL Oct 2020 #11
If you requested a mail in ballot, they will NOT let you vote PA Democrat Oct 2020 #15
So basically you are screwed if your ballot is lost in the mail? LisaL Oct 2020 #18
So OH has: LisaL Oct 2020 #9
This is why polls edhopper Oct 2020 #12
They can still vote, but they will have to jump trough some hoops, if they don't get their absentee LisaL Oct 2020 #14
Making it harder for people to vote edhopper Oct 2020 #16
Exactly. And of course it's harder for people to vote in large urban counties. LisaL Oct 2020 #19

Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
2. They should be prosecuted after Biden takes office.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:29 PM
Oct 2020

This kind of election interference CANNOT be allowed to stand.

Yonnie3

(17,420 posts)
3. "they over promised and under delivered,"
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:32 PM
Oct 2020

certainly sounds like trumpsters, taking their cue from their cult leader.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
6. Who knows?
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:49 PM
Oct 2020

And in OH, they won't let you vote in a general election on a regular ballot if your ballot never shows up. You will have to vote provisional.
However you can vote on a regular ballot during early voting period.

we can do it

(12,169 posts)
8. You can vote in person early, even if you have received absentee ballot.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:10 PM
Oct 2020

Everyone who hasn’t got theirs yet should do this if at all possible.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
10. Not everybody can vote in person, early or otherwise.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:16 PM
Oct 2020

There are disabled voters, voters stuck in nursing homes (which they can't leave to vote because of pandemic), and so on.

we can do it

(12,169 posts)
17. Yes, as I said, if at all possible.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:34 PM
Oct 2020

Disabled persons can have ballot brought out to them in vehicle if they request it.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
22. I am talking about a particular disabled person who can't actually get into a vehicle
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:42 PM
Oct 2020

and is still waiting for ballot in OH.
So thank you for your advice.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
7. My county, run by incompetent Republicans hired this company.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:55 PM
Oct 2020

They didn't even know (or care?) that ZERO ballots had been mailed as of last Thursday until people started to call to complain. We finally got ours on Wednesday.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
11. As I understand it, PA now has in person early voting, which they call absentee voting.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:26 PM
Oct 2020

You go somewhere, request absentee ballot, is given one on the spot, and vote and turn it in.
Would they let people who didn't get their absentees in a mail to vote that way?

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
15. If you requested a mail in ballot, they will NOT let you vote
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:31 PM
Oct 2020

early in person. Additionally, if you show up at the polls on election day to vote, you ,must turn in your mail in ballot or else you will be forced to vote with a provisional ballot.

Local paper reported on a man who was leaving to visit his son in Africa and had not gotten his ballot. He tried to vote in person and was refused.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
18. So basically you are screwed if your ballot is lost in the mail?
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:34 PM
Oct 2020

In OH they will let you vote provisional on election day if you requested an absentee but didn't receive it. It doesn't matter if you bring in your absentee ballot, they will only let you vote provisional, not regular.
I believe they will also be able to cancel your ballot if you asked for it by mail, and let you vote in person early. I don't think you have to present your absentee ballot, but you should bring it with you if you change your mind and decide to vote early in person (of course you have to have it to begin with).

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
9. So OH has:
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:14 PM
Oct 2020

1) only one early voting place per county, doesn't matter how many people reside in the county
2) one drop box per county, doesn't matter how many people reside in the county

All of that means that it's impossible to do a lot of volume during early voting, unless voting by mail.

They were surprised by the number of mail absentee requests? I call bullshit. There is a pandemic going on. It was obvious that absentee requests were going to go way up.

Company should not accept orders it couldn't full fill.

Is it any surprise OH is red? Small rural counties can vote just fine with their one voting place per county and one drop box per county.
Large urban counties can't easily early vote, unless by mail, and now there are issues with getting absentee ballots by mail?

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
14. They can still vote, but they will have to jump trough some hoops, if they don't get their absentee
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:30 PM
Oct 2020

ballots by mail.
One option is to vote early - not easy in large counties with one early voting place.
Other option is to vote provisional on election day. Should be easier than voting early, as many places will be open, but provisional ballots aren't counted until 10 days after the election.
And obviously not everybody wants to be in crowds during a pandemic (which is why absentee applications were through the roof to begin with).

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
19. Exactly. And of course it's harder for people to vote in large urban counties.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:37 PM
Oct 2020

Because in a small county, one early voting place is just fine.
But in a large county, how many people can vote in that one early voting place? Our county can do 3,300 people per day, and that's with long lines.
So basically no way our large county can do more than 100,000 people early voting in person.
Not because people don't want to early vote, but because there is only one early voting place per county of over a million people.

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