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RandySF

(84,329 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:15 PM Oct 2020

Trump Gives Up on Wisconsin and Minnesota

Trump campaign Bill Stepien has suggested to colleagues that President Trump is no longer competitive in either Wisconsin or Minnesota, according to Axios.

But he believes Trump will still win Ohio, Florida, Georgia, Iowa and Maine’s second congressional district.

If so — and that’s a big “if” since Joe Biden is currently leading in the polling averages in every one of those states.

Stepien sees three alternative paths to victory:

The most likely is for Trump to win Arizona, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
The second most likely would be for Trump to win Arizona, North Carolina and Michigan.
And the third pathway has Trump winning North Carolina, Michigan and Nevada.
Once again, Biden is leading in the polling averages in every one of these states.

And if Trump loses Florida, Ohio or Georgia, then none of the paths above are viable. If he loses Iowa, then the last two paths will be out of reach.

That doesn’t mean Trump can’t win, but every one of his viable paths is currently blocked.



https://politicalwire.com/2020/10/16/trump-gives-up-on-wisconsin-and-minnesota/

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Trump Gives Up on Wisconsin and Minnesota (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2020 OP
K&R Blue Owl Oct 2020 #1
I predict trump won't win any state listed in your post. SoonerPride Oct 2020 #2
Ohio? underpants Oct 2020 #3
I think Biden pulls out Ohio too. SoonerPride Oct 2020 #7
Me too. They are struggling financially there Rice4VP Oct 2020 #39
Not sure about Ohio and Iowa. Biden could win them but I think it will be very close. A coin flip. Statistical Oct 2020 #26
I wouldn't trust Ohio or Flor-a-duh Ever OldManTarHeel Oct 2020 #30
Wisconsin out of reach but Michigan still in play? exboyfil Oct 2020 #4
I do wonder what's up with Michigan AleksS Oct 2020 #8
Michigan isn't in play. roamer65 Oct 2020 #14
they pulled ad buys in both states a few weeks ago, right? beachbumbob Oct 2020 #5
I'm in Michigan and getting a ton of Trump ads James48 Oct 2020 #28
I'm in Michigan and getting a ton of Trump ads James48 Oct 2020 #35
Trump isn't going to win PA, NV, AZ, or MI Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #6
Texas. Win Texas and Trump is toast... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #9
Bidens takes Florida and it's Lights out for the Loser StClone Oct 2020 #16
I added another vote for Biden in Georgia today Politicub Oct 2020 #10
I'm in Georgia as well and voted for Biden by mail. Different Drummer Oct 2020 #21
It will be cool to see blue extend down the east coast. Statistical Oct 2020 #29
Trump is having a rally in Wisconsin Saturday. former9thward Oct 2020 #11
He has one in Macon, Georgia sometime later today. Different Drummer Oct 2020 #22
Dump will NOT win MI. roamer65 Oct 2020 #12
So in reverse order qazplm135 Oct 2020 #13
As well he might. MineralMan Oct 2020 #15
That's a nice thought. Different Drummer Oct 2020 #23
Looks to me like WI and MI are out for Trump, he has one path thats through Pennsylvania jcgoldie Oct 2020 #17
We were told the same thing in 2020. Hillary had so many options and helpisontheway Oct 2020 #18
He also had James Comey. CaptYossarian Oct 2020 #34
Hillary was never this far ahead at this point PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #43
I have the feeling Biden will win in Iowa but Georgia I think is a stretch gopiscrap Oct 2020 #19
Stacy Abrams has been quiet bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #37
I think he can win in Texas with the record turnout Rice4VP Oct 2020 #42
Mr. My Pillow is his campaign chairman in Minnesota kskiska Oct 2020 #20
C'mon Florida! Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #24
I think Biden is going to win Florida, Arizonan Michigan and Pennsylvania. yellowcanine Oct 2020 #25
Though I don't trust Fl, the other 3 I strongly agree with OldManTarHeel Oct 2020 #31
I agree completely ..Biden could win them all...Trump is a buffoon Stuart G Oct 2020 #45
A Republican presidential candidate giving up on Minnesota AND Wisconsin and still hoping to win DFW Oct 2020 #27
K&R Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #32
Wisky&Minny. I'll take it. oasis Oct 2020 #33
Well that's today. Wait until Biden steps on the gas bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #36
He's going to Wisconsin this weekend. Rice4VP Oct 2020 #38
He's doing worse in PA and MI than WI... paleotn Oct 2020 #40
Not before he dropped a load of COVID-19 on them. GoCubsGo Oct 2020 #41
I'm just speechless that Trump can win ANY state. C Moon Oct 2020 #44
I agree, I don't think that Trump will win any state...none...& I predicted that Stuart G Oct 2020 #46
I hope you are and were right! C Moon Oct 2020 #47
Trump will win Indiana. The Dumb is deep here. Captain Zero Oct 2020 #48
Trump will NOT WIN Indiana....Yes, .."The Dumb is deep here" The DUMB IS DEEP EVERYWHERE....... Stuart G Oct 2020 #50
By election day, Chump will only be campaigning in Oklahomastan, West Virginia Hassler Oct 2020 #49
I like that new word....."OKLAHOMASTAN." Great new word....K and R that word!!!! Stuart G Oct 2020 #51

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
2. I predict trump won't win any state listed in your post.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:19 PM
Oct 2020

Not one.

Wisconsin
Minnesota
Ohio
Florida
Georgia
Iowa
Maine’s second congressional district.
Arizona
North Carolina
Pennsylvania
Michigan
Nevada.

He will lose them all.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
26. Not sure about Ohio and Iowa. Biden could win them but I think it will be very close. A coin flip.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:48 PM
Oct 2020

Of course it doesn't really matter with the rest of the list Biden is on 350 EV even without IA and OH. Adding them just makes it a bit more bitter for Trump.

OldManTarHeel

(435 posts)
30. I wouldn't trust Ohio or Flor-a-duh Ever
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:21 PM
Oct 2020

Georgia looks better than NC, Iowa is still a 50-50 tossup IMHO.

AleksS

(1,718 posts)
8. I do wonder what's up with Michigan
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:25 PM
Oct 2020

The Senate race there is also looking rough. That would be a kick in the teeth to lose.

James48

(5,215 posts)
28. I'm in Michigan and getting a ton of Trump ads
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:17 PM
Oct 2020

Especially on Youtube and Facebook.

Getting 2 or 3 Trump ads for every Biden ad, and getting perhaps six Trump ads per hour now.

I click on them a lot. It costs them more every time I click.

James48

(5,215 posts)
35. I'm in Michigan and getting a ton of Trump ads
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:32 PM
Oct 2020

Especially on Youtube and Facebook.

Getting 2 or 3 Trump ads for every Biden ad, and getting perhaps six Trump ads per hour now.

I click on them a lot. It costs them more every time I click.

Politicub

(12,328 posts)
10. I added another vote for Biden in Georgia today
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:27 PM
Oct 2020

The wait in line was about an hour. They were moving people through pretty quickly.

It felt so good to cast that vote!



Different Drummer

(9,083 posts)
21. I'm in Georgia as well and voted for Biden by mail.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:33 PM
Oct 2020

Tracked my ballot and it was received and accepted yesterday.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
29. It will be cool to see blue extend down the east coast.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:20 PM
Oct 2020

At one time VA, NC, SC, GA, and FL were all solidly Red. FL became more purple (although frustrating) then VA flipped. We could see GA and NC do it as well this year. Then it is just SC.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
11. Trump is having a rally in Wisconsin Saturday.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:31 PM
Oct 2020

They would not be having a rally in a state they have given up in.

Different Drummer

(9,083 posts)
22. He has one in Macon, Georgia sometime later today.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:35 PM
Oct 2020

Fortunately, it's about two hours from where I live, so I'll be missing it.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
13. So in reverse order
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:33 PM
Oct 2020

there's no way he's winning Michigan or Nevada so three is out.

There's no way he's winning Michigan so two is out.

In theory he could win these three states, but I don't see how if he's also lost Michigan and Wisconsin.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
15. As well he might.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:38 PM
Oct 2020

In fact, I think he should give up altogether and resign. That would please me a great deal, indeed.

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
17. Looks to me like WI and MI are out for Trump, he has one path thats through Pennsylvania
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:42 PM
Oct 2020

And if he loses Florida thats out too.

helpisontheway

(5,378 posts)
18. We were told the same thing in 2020. Hillary had so many options and
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:44 PM
Oct 2020

he had a narrow path. They said he needed an inside straight. Well, he won.. 😕

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
34. He also had James Comey.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:32 PM
Oct 2020

Keeping 200,000 voters disenfranchised in WI didn't help either. The folks responsible for that are now killing us here by suing Governor Evers every other week.

They were Gerry-Koch-mandered in office.

gopiscrap

(24,734 posts)
19. I have the feeling Biden will win in Iowa but Georgia I think is a stretch
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:14 PM
Oct 2020

OH and FL are crap shoots, specially FL because I don't they have had a clean election in decades if ever

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
42. I think he can win in Texas with the record turnout
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:52 PM
Oct 2020

Beto always says that Texas is a low turnout state. Now they have counties with 95% registered to vote. 2.6M have already voted after in person voting started two days ago. 2M+ of that was done in person.

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/TX.html

The TOTAL votes in 2016 was 8.5M

kskiska

(27,165 posts)
20. Mr. My Pillow is his campaign chairman in Minnesota
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:17 PM
Oct 2020

and has been said to be in the running for Governor in the near future.

yellowcanine

(36,793 posts)
25. I think Biden is going to win Florida, Arizonan Michigan and Pennsylvania.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:42 PM
Oct 2020

So what happens in Ohio, Iowa and North Carolina won't matter, though I think he is going to win at least one of these three and he has a shot at winning all of them. I also still think he is going to get one of the traditionally red states like Texas, maybe Alaska. And Arkansas could be a sleeper win for Biden.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
45. I agree completely ..Biden could win them all...Trump is a buffoon
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 06:26 PM
Oct 2020

It ain't a secret anymore. Now millions more know it from the last 2 or 3 weeks. He has proved that in
many ways..
...He spent little time dealing with the Covid-19 crisis. He didn't care. Trump only cares about himself.
...The problem with, ......"Trump only cares about himself. is..................

that idea is supposed to be a secret...and it is supposed to be that Trump "appears to care about others, families, women, children.. etc."...but it has not been what was presented. ...

The show that Trump sold is....."Trump only cares about himself."

and most people will not buy that show, and they will not go to the movie either. Trump thought he could get away with selling the show, but he failed, and we will see the failure on November 3rd in the eve. Trump thinks he can get away with anything...but he won't. ???Why???
Trump is a buffoon that is why, and now, everyone knows it...(except his cult, and they have been downsized somewhat)

DFW

(60,189 posts)
27. A Republican presidential candidate giving up on Minnesota AND Wisconsin and still hoping to win
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 04:52 PM
Oct 2020

That is sort of like a sprinter giving up on his left foot and still hoping to win the 100 yard dash.

bucolic_frolic

(55,144 posts)
36. Well that's today. Wait until Biden steps on the gas
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:39 PM
Oct 2020

I mean we do have momentum, issues, voters. This is not 2016, 2004. Dems also have the cash they need. That's a first.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
40. He's doing worse in PA and MI than WI...
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:45 PM
Oct 2020

NV is out of reach as is ME 2. He's pissed off older people in FL (20 point swing in over 65's vs. 2016) and as the retired vote goes, so goes FL. He's in real trouble in NC. GA could be in play. They're grasping at straws. It won't work.

GoCubsGo

(34,915 posts)
41. Not before he dropped a load of COVID-19 on them.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 05:46 PM
Oct 2020

Just as he's doing for all these other swing states he will eventually give up on. He needs to be put on trial at The Hague.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
46. I agree, I don't think that Trump will win any state...none...& I predicted that
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 06:32 PM
Oct 2020

Last edited Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:28 PM - Edit history (1)

...in "Creative Speculation" forum..Hit the link below to see my prediction on April 11, this year.....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/113512426

Also....I need you to know that.................................................................

"I have felt a great disturbance in the force"


.................................in favor of Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!................

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
50. Trump will NOT WIN Indiana....Yes, .."The Dumb is deep here" The DUMB IS DEEP EVERYWHERE.......
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 12:42 PM
Oct 2020

....BUT.........there is one place where the DUMB IS DEEPEST OF ALL...........................................

..........................."IN DONALD TRUMP'S BRAIN".....................................................

.....Donald thinks he has a very smart brain, but he treats people like sh** all the time......

That is not the sign of someone who is "smart" but the sign of someone who is not smart.
Further, Donald thinks he can get away with treating people like that......"ALL THE TIME"

BUT......he isn't smart enough to realize that the show is over, and he has to leave the theater...
Donald thinks the show goes on as long as he desires....But his time is up, he needs to go now..
There is nothing on the screen, and all the actors and show assistants have gone home... And,
most important, Donnie doesn't have a clue..He is lost in a sea of ego mania .....

........Yes, .... "Donnie hasn't a clue, and you can take that from Stu.

Hassler

(4,924 posts)
49. By election day, Chump will only be campaigning in Oklahomastan, West Virginia
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:06 PM
Oct 2020

And Alabamastan.

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