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Trump campaign Bill Stepien has suggested to colleagues that President Trump is no longer competitive in either Wisconsin or Minnesota, according to Axios.
But he believes Trump will still win Ohio, Florida, Georgia, Iowa and Maines second congressional district.
If so and thats a big if since Joe Biden is currently leading in the polling averages in every one of those states.
Stepien sees three alternative paths to victory:
The most likely is for Trump to win Arizona, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
The second most likely would be for Trump to win Arizona, North Carolina and Michigan.
And the third pathway has Trump winning North Carolina, Michigan and Nevada.
Once again, Biden is leading in the polling averages in every one of these states.
And if Trump loses Florida, Ohio or Georgia, then none of the paths above are viable. If he loses Iowa, then the last two paths will be out of reach.
That doesnt mean Trump cant win, but every one of his viable paths is currently blocked.
https://politicalwire.com/2020/10/16/trump-gives-up-on-wisconsin-and-minnesota/
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Not one.
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Ohio
Florida
Georgia
Iowa
Maines second congressional district.
Arizona
North Carolina
Pennsylvania
Michigan
Nevada.
He will lose them all.
underpants
(196,504 posts)Marking to give you credit if you are right.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)because of Trumps crazy trade deals
Statistical
(19,264 posts)Of course it doesn't really matter with the rest of the list Biden is on 350 EV even without IA and OH. Adding them just makes it a bit more bitter for Trump.
OldManTarHeel
(435 posts)Georgia looks better than NC, Iowa is still a 50-50 tossup IMHO.
exboyfil
(18,359 posts)That doesn't sound right.
AleksS
(1,718 posts)The Senate race there is also looking rough. That would be a kick in the teeth to lose.
roamer65
(37,957 posts)It will get called for Biden very quickly on Election eve.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)James48
(5,215 posts)Especially on Youtube and Facebook.
Getting 2 or 3 Trump ads for every Biden ad, and getting perhaps six Trump ads per hour now.
I click on them a lot. It costs them more every time I click.
James48
(5,215 posts)Especially on Youtube and Facebook.
Getting 2 or 3 Trump ads for every Biden ad, and getting perhaps six Trump ads per hour now.
I click on them a lot. It costs them more every time I click.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,240 posts)And FL and NC are in doubt.
Wounded Bear
(64,328 posts)Burnt toast.
Burnt toast with shit smear.
StClone
(11,869 posts)Politicub
(12,328 posts)The wait in line was about an hour. They were moving people through pretty quickly.
It felt so good to cast that vote!
Different Drummer
(9,083 posts)Tracked my ballot and it was received and accepted yesterday.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)At one time VA, NC, SC, GA, and FL were all solidly Red. FL became more purple (although frustrating) then VA flipped. We could see GA and NC do it as well this year. Then it is just SC.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)They would not be having a rally in a state they have given up in.
Different Drummer
(9,083 posts)Fortunately, it's about two hours from where I live, so I'll be missing it.
roamer65
(37,957 posts)Any thought of it is pure folly.
qazplm135
(7,654 posts)there's no way he's winning Michigan or Nevada so three is out.
There's no way he's winning Michigan so two is out.
In theory he could win these three states, but I don't see how if he's also lost Michigan and Wisconsin.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)In fact, I think he should give up altogether and resign. That would please me a great deal, indeed.
Different Drummer
(9,083 posts)Hopefully, he'll take you up on it.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)And if he loses Florida thats out too.
helpisontheway
(5,378 posts)he had a narrow path. They said he needed an inside straight. Well, he won.. 😕
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Keeping 200,000 voters disenfranchised in WI didn't help either. The folks responsible for that are now killing us here by suing Governor Evers every other week.
They were Gerry-Koch-mandered in office.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)four years ago.
gopiscrap
(24,734 posts)OH and FL are crap shoots, specially FL because I don't they have had a clean election in decades if ever
bucolic_frolic
(55,144 posts)Thought she'd bring the magic to Georgia
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)Beto always says that Texas is a low turnout state. Now they have counties with 95% registered to vote. 2.6M have already voted after in person voting started two days ago. 2M+ of that was done in person.
https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/TX.html
The TOTAL votes in 2016 was 8.5M
kskiska
(27,165 posts)and has been said to be in the running for Governor in the near future.
Baitball Blogger
(52,350 posts)Baby needs new shoes!
yellowcanine
(36,793 posts)So what happens in Ohio, Iowa and North Carolina won't matter, though I think he is going to win at least one of these three and he has a shot at winning all of them. I also still think he is going to get one of the traditionally red states like Texas, maybe Alaska. And Arkansas could be a sleeper win for Biden.
OldManTarHeel
(435 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)It ain't a secret anymore. Now millions more know it from the last 2 or 3 weeks. He has proved that in
many ways..
...He spent little time dealing with the Covid-19 crisis. He didn't care. Trump only cares about himself.
...The problem with, ......"Trump only cares about himself. is..................
that idea is supposed to be a secret...and it is supposed to be that Trump "appears to care about others, families, women, children.. etc."...but it has not been what was presented. ...
The show that Trump sold is....."Trump only cares about himself."
and most people will not buy that show, and they will not go to the movie either. Trump thought he could get away with selling the show, but he failed, and we will see the failure on November 3rd in the eve. Trump thinks he can get away with anything...but he won't. ???Why???
Trump is a buffoon that is why, and now, everyone knows it...(except his cult, and they have been downsized somewhat)
DFW
(60,189 posts)That is sort of like a sprinter giving up on his left foot and still hoping to win the 100 yard dash.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)oasis
(53,695 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,144 posts)I mean we do have momentum, issues, voters. This is not 2016, 2004. Dems also have the cash they need. That's a first.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)paleotn
(22,218 posts)NV is out of reach as is ME 2. He's pissed off older people in FL (20 point swing in over 65's vs. 2016) and as the retired vote goes, so goes FL. He's in real trouble in NC. GA could be in play. They're grasping at straws. It won't work.
GoCubsGo
(34,915 posts)Just as he's doing for all these other swing states he will eventually give up on. He needs to be put on trial at The Hague.
C Moon
(13,643 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:28 PM - Edit history (1)
...in "Creative Speculation" forum..Hit the link below to see my prediction on April 11, this year.....
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113512426
Also....I need you to know that.................................................................
"I have felt a great disturbance in the force"
.................................in favor of Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!................
C Moon
(13,643 posts)Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)nt
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)....BUT.........there is one place where the DUMB IS DEEPEST OF ALL...........................................
..........................."IN DONALD TRUMP'S BRAIN".....................................................
.....Donald thinks he has a very smart brain, but he treats people like sh** all the time......
That is not the sign of someone who is "smart" but the sign of someone who is not smart.
Further, Donald thinks he can get away with treating people like that......"ALL THE TIME"
BUT......he isn't smart enough to realize that the show is over, and he has to leave the theater...
Donald thinks the show goes on as long as he desires....But his time is up, he needs to go now..
There is nothing on the screen, and all the actors and show assistants have gone home... And,
most important, Donnie doesn't have a clue..He is lost in a sea of ego mania .....
........Yes, .... "Donnie hasn't a clue, and you can take that from Stu.
Hassler
(4,924 posts)And Alabamastan.