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Rule of Claw

(500 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:30 PM Oct 2020

Mothereffing Mothership Of All Polls.

https://www.tableau.com/data-insights/us-election-2020/candidate-preference

618k plus participants. 53-45 Joe. Very close to the range. Joe is not winning by 15 points. I think 9-11, but perhaps 8. But it is a durable and solid 8. Not to this point a swingy race. Key number: Joe is winning 57-41 with union voters and that suggests the bounceback with white non-college is real.

The Morning Consult poll showed more typical numbers to be expected, 44 with whites vs. 47, 87-8 with AAs. Now it isn't that 618k vs. 1k is going to make that much difference in margin of error. Believe it or not it does not. But what it does allow us is a sizable oversampling of every demographic. Dig down into the state data to get PA plus 7 MI plus 7 WI plus 12. Winning back the union voters is always the key in these states.
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Mothereffing Mothership Of All Polls. (Original Post) Rule of Claw Oct 2020 OP
Interesting. That sounds about right. n/t Laelth Oct 2020 #1
I see impossible for trump to get over 44% of the national vote, beachbumbob Oct 2020 #2
14% is a pipe dream. nt Codeine Oct 2020 #4
actually I expect to be larger, you can acknowledge my prediction come Nov beachbumbob Oct 2020 #8
Dump only got 46 percent in 2016. roamer65 Oct 2020 #3
Survey Monkey????? BGBD Oct 2020 #5
Yeah they are rated D- by 538. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #7
I cringe every time MSNBC cite SM as their source. nt Kahuna Oct 2020 #9
Crossing my fingers! Karadeniz Oct 2020 #6
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. I see impossible for trump to get over 44% of the national vote,
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:39 PM
Oct 2020

and third parties will only take a total max of less than 2%. Doing the math, the national lead and final outcome should have biden at 14+ Pt blowout. This is where this will end up. Simple analysis that trump got 46% in 2016 and is 100% impossible he will get any where near that on Nov 3rd. To me a 14pt margin is the smallest margin to expect. Of course thisdepends on people voting as we expect. To think this is close is to sell ad time and get more donations.

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
3. Dump only got 46 percent in 2016.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:42 PM
Oct 2020

Those elections where it’s right around 48-48 cause us real problems, like in 1876, 1888, 2000 and 2016.

That is why we need a popular vote runoff system.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
5. Survey Monkey?????
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:45 PM
Oct 2020

A big sample doesn't mean the poll is better.

Survey Monkey is not reliable.

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