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Four years later and I'm still furious with James Comey. This is all his fucking fault. (Original Post) Happyhippychick Oct 2020 OP
Mostly true! edhopper Oct 2020 #1
Comey was partially responsible. But, had Democrats mad about primaries voted for Dems Hoyt Oct 2020 #2
I remember you arguing in support of TPP. LuvLoogie Oct 2020 #10
His, Putin's, and Trump's fault DonaldsRump Oct 2020 #3
absolutely, and when much of the media tries to bring up 2016 and compare it to 2020, which still_one Oct 2020 #4
not just his fault agingdem Oct 2020 #5
There was nothing wrong with the Clinton Foundation LuvLoogie Oct 2020 #11
you're right... agingdem Oct 2020 #14
Are you actually blaming Hillary for Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation, both of which... brush Oct 2020 #12
absolutely not... agingdem Oct 2020 #18
I Wonder If He Still Feels Nauseous Me. Oct 2020 #6
I Am As well, Ma'am The Magistrate Oct 2020 #7
I still remember the fury here at DU... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #8
Zip the lip occupant Oct 2020 #9
Comey as well as Wellstone ruled Oct 2020 #13
Oh the unwarranted hatred of Hillary was deep and far ranging. LakeArenal Oct 2020 #15
Can't blame it all on Comey. The 100 million registered voters who did NOT vote mnhtnbb Oct 2020 #16
I'm with you on this but I've been mad at them for the last 30 years for not voting which caused the chowder66 Oct 2020 #21
For all that it's easiest to zero in on a single cause... CBHagman Oct 2020 #17
Agree Kitchari Oct 2020 #20
I don't agree - media was complicit KentuckyWoman Oct 2020 #19
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Comey was partially responsible. But, had Democrats mad about primaries voted for Dems
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:12 PM
Oct 2020

anyway we would have won. Complacency played a part as did Democratic office holders who criticized Obama, and Clinton by association, over TPP -- essentially agreeing with trump on trade.

I hope to heck we don't do that junk again.

LuvLoogie

(8,910 posts)
10. I remember you arguing in support of TPP.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:37 PM
Oct 2020

I was opposed, due to the lack of transparency mostly. That I wanted changed. I wasn't opposed to the treaty, but to the process. But I do think it would have been better to pass it.

On the other hand, there seems to be no check left on corporate malfeasance. I think we will see more of the post industrial legislative remedies in America weakened or abolished by this Supreme Court.

Any new legislation will be challenged and defeated because it is part of a "socialist or gay agenda."

And the right will continue to blame the deterioration of our society on the least powerful.

I have young daughters. At times I have looked at them and thought, "What was I thinking?"

What will I leave them to cope with?

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
3. His, Putin's, and Trump's fault
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:12 PM
Oct 2020

I totally agree: none of this would have happened if HRC had been (rightfully) President.

Same with 2001-2009 with Al Gore and that other GOP stalwart, W.

Good Lord: Trump and W! What a pair. Throw in Mitch McConnell and Newt Gingrich, and it's no wonder we are on the edge of catastrophe.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
4. absolutely, and when much of the media tries to bring up 2016 and compare it to 2020, which
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:12 PM
Oct 2020

isn't comparable, they intentionally leave out Comey, and his releasing the emails 11 days before the election, where the illustrious media said that the email investigation had been reopened, which was a LIE

The reason they do not bring it up is because they were complacent in what happened


agingdem

(8,958 posts)
5. not just his fault
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:27 PM
Oct 2020

remember Hillary ran against Obama in the primaries and she was the wife of a former president...she knew she was going to run again and she had 8 years to "disappear" anything that could take her down...Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation were the two biggies..she had plenty of time to fix her soft spots and write the narrative so when Trump and his surrogates threw that crap at her she could swat it away...and she underestimated the Trump's degradation and the filth that surrounded him...but Comey, that self righteous prick, fired the shot that "killed"her


LuvLoogie

(8,910 posts)
11. There was nothing wrong with the Clinton Foundation
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:41 PM
Oct 2020

nor with Hillary's response to Benghazi.

agingdem

(8,958 posts)
14. you're right...
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:53 PM
Oct 2020

the Clinton Foundation is philanthropy at it's best.. and Benghazi just happened..not her fault...but she was still vulnerable..

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
12. Are you actually blaming Hillary for Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation, both of which...
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:47 PM
Oct 2020

were nothing but repug talking points? The foundation was faultless and the Benghazi dust up was certainly not her fault.

Sounds like you're repeating repug talking points from back then. Did you not turn in for the 11 hour grilling she sat through on Benghazi where the repugs didn't lay a glove on her?

agingdem

(8,958 posts)
18. absolutely not...
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:57 PM
Oct 2020

I admire her..I donated to her campaign, went door to door, drove people to the polls....I'm saying they were her soft spots..

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
7. I Am As well, Ma'am
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:28 PM
Oct 2020

Short of seppuku, or self-immolation on the National Mall, I cannot think of a thing he could do that might begin to atone for what he did to this country, and to Mrs. Clinton.

The worst of it is the shabbiness of his self-serving motivation. He didn't want to be criticized by Republicans, because that might make some people disagree with his view of himself, that he was the one honest non-partisan man in Washington DC.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,539 posts)
8. I still remember the fury here at DU...
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:31 PM
Oct 2020

... when it happened.

Lots of posters lost their optimism about an election victory after Comey did that, and they were right.

 

occupant

(166 posts)
9. Zip the lip
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:34 PM
Oct 2020

This country would have been a much better place if Comey just zipped his lip. Turned out to be nuthin as we had all expected. Hope he will feel like a complete asshole for the rest of his life...

Yea, I have been lurking at DU for years, I recall the rage...

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Comey as well as
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:48 PM
Oct 2020

a small amount of Clinton Fatigue, the later I picked up on when phone banking during the final weekend.

The last couple days of early voting told a story of People not showing up at the Polls which carried over on Election Day.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
15. Oh the unwarranted hatred of Hillary was deep and far ranging.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:53 PM
Oct 2020

Comey was just the final nail. Along with Russian interference, and emboldened trumpets.

mnhtnbb

(33,504 posts)
16. Can't blame it all on Comey. The 100 million registered voters who did NOT vote
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:54 PM
Oct 2020

definitely shoulder some blame. They are the ones I'm most angry with and I sure as hell hope are not going to stand on the side lines this year.

chowder66

(12,514 posts)
21. I'm with you on this but I've been mad at them for the last 30 years for not voting which caused the
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 03:20 PM
Oct 2020

republican party to gain power and move further to the right.

CBHagman

(17,532 posts)
17. For all that it's easiest to zero in on a single cause...
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:55 PM
Oct 2020

...the hideous tragedy that was the outcome of Election 2016 had multiple causes, including poor framing by some in the media, GOP efforts to disenfranchise voters, three (Three!) third-party candidates to split up the vote totals, nonparticipation by many voters who had cast a vote in 2012 and/or 2008, the effects of our electoral college system, and God knows how much interference from abroad. And that's just for starters.

We do know that millions more voters wanted Hillary Clinton to serve as president, but that was downplayed following the electoral college results. So were the worldwide protests against Trump on January 21, 2017.

KentuckyWoman

(7,417 posts)
19. I don't agree - media was complicit
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 02:58 PM
Oct 2020

In the grovel for ratings they catapulted the propaganda.

I mean TV - online - everything. They are all so busy "monitizing" every damn thing there's no room for stopping to put crap like Comey in the correct perspective.

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