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a kennedy

(29,728 posts)
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:29 PM Oct 2020

I swear he DID NOT HAVE IT, HOW COULD HE HAVE????

He’s still jabbering and it’s been over an hour!!!!!! How was Chris Christie in ICU for 7 days and the orange piece of shit is out every damn day blabbing......how is that possible??? Oh right not a bad case and he’s cured...... I TOTALLY DESPISE HIM.

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I swear he DID NOT HAVE IT, HOW COULD HE HAVE???? (Original Post) a kennedy Oct 2020 OP
He is on drugs and people have said his energy level is lower JI7 Oct 2020 #1
Some are speculating that he didn't have the CV and that he just faked it so he would get a ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2020 #2
I'm generally not one for conspiracy theories, Marius25 Oct 2020 #3
I am not convinced either Dlpger61 Oct 2020 #10
he had it. the ACB ceremony is a well documented superspreader event with multiple infections Takket Oct 2020 #40
I expect him to collapse at one of these rallies. katmondoo Oct 2020 #4
Hope springs eternal SheltieLover Oct 2020 #14
Now i want to watch them. Just kidding, i can catch it on the news. dem4decades Oct 2020 #22
They gave him a 3 drug cocktail that you and I would BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #5
Yep. Estimated cost $1.5 million BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #7
Just One Of The Treatments... ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #44
All the medical practitioners who saw him should be put under review. lpbk2713 Oct 2020 #6
Has Bill Barr been actually seen in public since he quarantined? Nt helpisontheway Oct 2020 #8
We will know one day! bluestarone Oct 2020 #9
Either he didn't have it OR he had it for weeks longer Squinch Oct 2020 #11
This!👆 SheltieLover Oct 2020 #15
Which is all he ever does. 2naSalit Oct 2020 #30
Yep. nt crickets Oct 2020 #36
What about the folks who are asymptomatic? PTWB Oct 2020 #41
So they bombed him with experimental treatments and Squinch Oct 2020 #43
Not that absurd dansolo Oct 2020 #45
He went into the hospital on Oct 2 after saying he tested positive Squinch Oct 2020 #50
He was clearly symptomatic. There is evidence of that. PTWB Oct 2020 #54
And he was cured - of Covid 19 - in 3 days. Sorry. Not buying it for a minute. Squinch Oct 2020 #57
What are you doing, man? PTWB Oct 2020 #58
But we were told he was cured. Yes, of course that was untrue. But that's what we were told. Squinch Oct 2020 #59
Agree NT bcbink Oct 2020 #55
Chris Christie? FBaggins Oct 2020 #12
He's showing no syptoms before or after... 2naSalit Oct 2020 #31
I'm furious he was able to do that. crickets Oct 2020 #37
Like it or not, he's the frickin' President... robbob Oct 2020 #63
I was talking about Chris Christie. crickets Oct 2020 #64
Oh, ok, I missed that... robbob Oct 2020 #66
No worries. Apologies for being a bit short myself. crickets Oct 2020 #67
Different people have different symptoms. PTWB Oct 2020 #13
I agree, it was a ploy to show how it is treatable, he and his mistress Beachnutt Oct 2020 #16
He had it but I think he had it for far longer than he said. It wasn't just a couple octoberlib Oct 2020 #17
Unfortunately, it's Trump. He lies. All the time. stillcool Oct 2020 #18
I suspect he's still taking Dexamethasone. Laelth Oct 2020 #19
This soothsayer Oct 2020 #27
But he can only take it for so long. I have estimated that they will have to take him off Boogiemack Oct 2020 #32
Agreed. Laelth Oct 2020 #35
+1 plus a bunch of other things Lucinda Oct 2020 #33
I stated he didn't have it the day of his victory lap around Walter Reed and CaptYossarian Oct 2020 #20
He had it. Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #60
Welllll... CaptYossarian Oct 2020 #65
I'm not one for CT either, however....... Zoonart Oct 2020 #21
Doesn't really prove anything either way. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #24
That's the whole point of gaslighting, no? Zoonart Oct 2020 #29
Lots of people get it and recover. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #23
Except that he really hasn't recovered. GoCubsGo Oct 2020 #49
He had it crimycarny Oct 2020 #25
trump Virus is Pumped Full of Cha Oct 2020 #26
Some folks have a very mild reaction. Codeine Oct 2020 #28
Any of your co-workers run the course, going from first symptoms and positive test to cure Squinch Oct 2020 #52
I think he had it and hid it because it was going to mess with Ilsa Oct 2020 #34
His doctors all had to sign an NDA (non disclosure agreement) IcyPeas Oct 2020 #38
It wouldn't matter because his privacy is protected regardless of an NDA PTWB Oct 2020 #42
He could have gotten Covid at any time... why now? Baked Potato Oct 2020 #39
Well, his purported infection sure ended the stories... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #46
Yep. And we never went back to that subject. Squinch Oct 2020 #51
Yes, he did. They are pumping him full of dexamethasone and other drugs. GoCubsGo Oct 2020 #47
He's totally pumped on drugs -- probably the best in the world -- and soon comes the crash. Earthshine2 Oct 2020 #48
Agree bcbink Oct 2020 #53
Because COVID is tricky and that's where its danger derives from Mr. Ected Oct 2020 #56
Regeneron. Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #61
Of which Trump owns stock. Squinch Oct 2020 #62

SWBTATTReg

(22,183 posts)
2. Some are speculating that he didn't have the CV and that he just faked it so he would get a ...
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:30 PM
Oct 2020

bump in the polls, which if he was expecting anything, it backfired on him badly.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
3. I'm generally not one for conspiracy theories,
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:32 PM
Oct 2020

but I'm not convinced he had it either. His doctors were required to lie for him.

Dlpger61

(40 posts)
10. I am not convinced either
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:39 PM
Oct 2020

I don’t believe he, his family, hope hicks, Chris Christie or any of the others had it, all of them have recovered with no side affects, you don’t just get up out of a hospital bed with such an ailment as this virus and be as fancy free as they are.

ALL OF THEM ARE LIARS AND WILL ALWAYS BE

BigmanPigman

(51,644 posts)
5. They gave him a 3 drug cocktail that you and I would
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:34 PM
Oct 2020

not be able to afford or even get since it is still not approved by the FDA. He is "special".

BannonsLiver

(16,531 posts)
7. Yep. Estimated cost $1.5 million
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:35 PM
Oct 2020

Meds you or I couldn’t get and will likely never be able to get. That’s why he’s alive.

ProfessorGAC

(65,289 posts)
44. Just One Of The Treatments...
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 07:12 AM
Oct 2020

...was 100 grand per dose.
Then, PINO says everybody will get it for free.
No wonder he's not a real billionaire.
It's clear he doesn't understand how business works.

lpbk2713

(42,770 posts)
6. All the medical practitioners who saw him should be put under review.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:35 PM
Oct 2020


If they go along with his line of bullshit.

bluestarone

(17,091 posts)
9. We will know one day!
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:37 PM
Oct 2020

After the way his Dr. spoke, (LIED) I'm not sure if he did or not! BUT if not, We WILL find out!

Squinch

(51,059 posts)
11. Either he didn't have it OR he had it for weeks longer
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:41 PM
Oct 2020

than he says he did because NO ONE gets over it that fast.

The drugs he was given were for people well into the virus process, not people just diagnosed.

And if he had it longer, he had it at the debate.

He's lying about something and lying big.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
41. What about the folks who are asymptomatic?
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 10:17 PM
Oct 2020

Or the folks whose mild to moderate symptoms respond well to treatment?

Do you honestly believe “no one” gets well quickly? That is... absurd.

Squinch

(51,059 posts)
43. So they bombed him with experimental treatments and
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 06:03 AM
Oct 2020

treatments usually reserved for people about to go on ventilators because he was asymptomatic? That's... absurd.

And no. Even people with mild symptoms don't test negative after three days.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
45. Not that absurd
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 07:23 AM
Oct 2020

He could have forced them to give him the most aggressive treatment. My guess is that he had it, and when he had mild to moderate symptoms, they gave him everything they could.

Squinch

(51,059 posts)
50. He went into the hospital on Oct 2 after saying he tested positive
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 07:42 AM
Oct 2020

that day. He is reported to have had symptoms including shortness of breath serious enough to require oxygen.

Three days later, Oct 5, he leaves the hospital "cured."

Sorry. That's some bullshit somewhere. You don't get over a cold that fast.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
54. He was clearly symptomatic. There is evidence of that.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:12 AM
Oct 2020

He also is clearly not symptomatic now. There is evidence of that, too.

The simplest explanation is most likely to be correct: he had mild to moderate symptoms and they threw every promising treatment at him to try to control those symptoms and promote an antibody response. The treatment worked.

Squinch

(51,059 posts)
57. And he was cured - of Covid 19 - in 3 days. Sorry. Not buying it for a minute.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:47 AM
Oct 2020

They are lying. If not about him having it at all, then about when he caught it, which had to be much earlier. And which means he went to the debate with Biden knowing he had it, and he yelled and yelled for 90 minutes.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
58. What are you doing, man?
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:51 AM
Oct 2020

He wasn’t “cured” in 3 days. Clearly he was still experiencing some symptoms several days after he was released from Walter Reed. But the symptoms were being managed and responded to treatment.


You can lead a horse to water...

Squinch

(51,059 posts)
59. But we were told he was cured. Yes, of course that was untrue. But that's what we were told.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:57 AM
Oct 2020
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-returns-oval-office-despite-being-treated-coronavirus-n1242460

This is my point.

And as far as the possibility of the scam going the other way, that he didn't have it at all, do you think he is above faking shortness of breath to get us to stop talking about his taxes?

The Trump Circus is lying about this. We don't know what the truth is, but we can bet the house that what we have been told is a big, big lie.

FBaggins

(26,775 posts)
12. Chris Christie?
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:41 PM
Oct 2020

He’s... like... a different person, right?

The virus impacts different people in different ways.

2naSalit

(86,872 posts)
31. He's showing no syptoms before or after...
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 09:14 PM
Oct 2020

I think he checked himself in to the hospital for show.

crickets

(25,987 posts)
37. I'm furious he was able to do that.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 09:52 PM
Oct 2020

There are people begging for help who can't get it and are sometimes sent home only to die, but he checks himself in. Flames. Flames on the side of my face.

robbob

(3,539 posts)
63. Like it or not, he's the frickin' President...
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:06 AM
Oct 2020

I get a little amused at posts that basically say “why did they do THIS for him? He’s scum; average Americans can’t afford/get access to THAT...”. You should know, if you’ve ever seen my posts, that I hate him with the fury of a thousands suns. Him and all that hypocritical, money grubbing GOP filth, but...but...

He IS the President and as such is afforded all kinds of considerations we plebes will never get. If this had happened during the Obama years don’t you think we would want them to do everything possible to keep him safe and healthy?

Ok...enough on that point; here is what is really so scummy about tRump in this situation: having been afforded all these advantages, having been rushed to Walter Reed in a helicopter, having been given drugs unavailable and unaffordable to the rest of us, plus a whole team of medical professionals nursing him back to health, he turns around and says, basically; see? No big deal? Don’t let it affect your life, etc. etc. He is truly incapable of learning or emphasizing in any situation.

robbob

(3,539 posts)
66. Oh, ok, I missed that...
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 07:48 PM
Oct 2020

Apologies. Yup, Christy is one privileged prick. Remember the private beach party?

crickets

(25,987 posts)
67. No worries. Apologies for being a bit short myself.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 11:12 AM
Oct 2020

Yes, Christie and his family seemed to be having a great time on that empty state beach that was closed just before the July 4th holiday. I knew he was on the beach when he shouldn't have been but only realized later it was a beach that he closed. What a piece of work!

I think he's a lobbyist now. Naturally.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
13. Different people have different symptoms.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:42 PM
Oct 2020

Many folks are completely asymptomatic. Others experience mild symptoms requiring no treatment. Some people experience moderate symptoms briefly but respond well to treatment. Others still experience severe symptoms that do not respond to treatment.


It seems somewhat foolish to try to compare symptoms between two individuals.

Beachnutt

(7,349 posts)
16. I agree, it was a ploy to show how it is treatable, he and his mistress
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:44 PM
Oct 2020

both were in on it and his wife and his kid.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
17. He had it but I think he had it for far longer than he said. It wasn't just a couple
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:45 PM
Oct 2020

days. Trump considers getting sick a weakness and he hid it until he couldn't any longer.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
18. Unfortunately, it's Trump. He lies. All the time.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:46 PM
Oct 2020

There is nothing he has said, at any time, that should be considered truthful without validation. There's a reason why he never completes a factual sentence, although I don't know what that is.

 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
32. But he can only take it for so long. I have estimated that they will have to take him off
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 09:16 PM
Oct 2020

right after the next debate.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
35. Agreed.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 09:43 PM
Oct 2020

I suspect that he has already been taking it too long but that his doctors made an exception for him due to the impending election.

-Laelth

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
20. I stated he didn't have it the day of his victory lap around Walter Reed and
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:52 PM
Oct 2020

a few DUers vehemently disagreed with me. I haven't changed my mind about it because he lies incessantly about everything.

Do you think he paid Ivanka $130,000 out of habit? (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

Turin_C3PO

(14,099 posts)
60. He had it.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:01 AM
Oct 2020

No way would such a conspiracy not get out by someone from Walter Reed. That's the problem with conspiracy theories. He recovered quickly because he got medicine no one else gets.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
65. Welllll...
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 05:31 PM
Oct 2020

Everyone who comes within 50 feet of him signs an NDA. Trump has also always been "sue happy" by reputation.

I also look at his miraculous 2-day recovery for an obese inactive senior citizen.

Plus the incessant lies.

It would make sense if he got it due to his ridiculously careless lifestyle, but I never believe a word he (or Conley) says.

Zoonart

(11,890 posts)
21. I'm not one for CT either, however.......
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 06:53 PM
Oct 2020

I was fully prepared to believe that he had the virus and has been treated accordingly....right up until I heard about the plan for the
BIG REVEAL- the discussion of a "Superman" stunt. The set up was for tRump to leave the hospital looking frail and then to rips shirt open to reveal a Superman tee shirt. That is pure television theater.

It was at that moment that I began to suspect that the entire thing had been theater and this was meant to be the grand finale.

The "Superman" story was the tell. The entire object of the play was the reveal. The glorious resurrection and stunt costuming or no... that is how they have played it. NO test dates... no details from doctors, no empathy, no masks,...It's a miracle I tell ya... a miracle.

TwilightZone

(25,505 posts)
23. Lots of people get it and recover.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:02 PM
Oct 2020

There's really no reason to believe he never had it. He's been mocking it for months, he hates being seen as weak, and it would be the last thing he'd want.

GoCubsGo

(32,098 posts)
49. Except that he really hasn't recovered.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 07:30 AM
Oct 2020

He's being pumped full of drugs that are masking how ill he really is. They're also using all kinds of tricks to make sure he doesn't have to exert himself too much, like using a smaller AF1, of which he enters and exits through the cargo hold. His COVID cough still makes multiple appearances, as does his COVID and drug-addled brain. He's really screwed when it all catches up to him. And, it will.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
25. He had it
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:06 PM
Oct 2020

Trump is too vain to admit that he could get sick, period. Both Mary Trump and Michael Cohen mentioned that Trump saw getting sick as a weakness. Once he did get sick he got the best medicines and immediately--versus having to wait until you're on your death bed as is the case for everyone else.

I don't believe for a minute that Trump didn't have COVID based on his ego, his denial that COVID was "big thing", and everyone else at the Super Spreader event who got sick (as well as Chris Christie from the debate prep).

BUT, once he did contract it all energy was on how to spin it in such a way as to feed his ego. Luckily for Trump he responded well to the cocktail he was given.

Cha

(297,864 posts)
26. trump Virus is Pumped Full of
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:06 PM
Oct 2020

Million $$$ drugs including Steroids that have been noted in this thread.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
28. Some folks have a very mild reaction.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:12 PM
Oct 2020

Some of my coworkers have had it, almost all of them have shrugged it off easily except one guy — he died and his wife nearly died with him.

A vast conspiracy involving his entire utterly-leaky administration and all the medical staff seems a lot less likely than a scenario where he caught a mild case and got the best medical care leading to a quick recovery.

Squinch

(51,059 posts)
52. Any of your co-workers run the course, going from first symptoms and positive test to cure
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 08:26 AM
Oct 2020

and negative test in 3 days?

Somewhere in there is a big, big lie. We don't know what the truth is, but we know that shit's a lie.

Ilsa

(61,709 posts)
34. I think he had it and hid it because it was going to mess with
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 09:27 PM
Oct 2020

His campaign and debate schedule. I think he's taking it easier than usual all month, reserving his energy and breath. The pneumonia got bad enough that they had to admit him to WR where he got the best meds. He looked really weak and breathless on the balcony.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
46. Well, his purported infection sure ended the stories...
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 07:25 AM
Oct 2020

... about his taxes in a hurry!

It was covered a lot by the media, then BOOM... another Trump distraction!

Of course, Trump was probably just playing 0-dimensional chess again. The chess of the void, and his infinitely DENSE mind, where the laws of logic break down and there's just randomness.

GoCubsGo

(32,098 posts)
47. Yes, he did. They are pumping him full of dexamethasone and other drugs.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 07:26 AM
Oct 2020

He's jabbering for an hour because he is quite obviously as high as a kite. Steroids do that to you. You'll also notice that he is flying a 757, rather than the 747. Last night, he got off it from the rear cargo hatch. That wasn't the first time he got on and off through the belly of the plane. They're doing everything they can to make sure he doesn't have to climb or go down large numbers of stairs, from using a smaller plane, to entering and exiting it from an elevated platform. Because he can't. He still huffs and puffs and gasps for air. He had it. They are just covering up the fact that he is still affected by it.

I was skeptical when it first came out that he was infected. But, I have been watching every one of his stunts. And, the way they have been obfuscating and covering up. This is not going to end well for him

 

Earthshine2

(4,044 posts)
48. He's totally pumped on drugs -- probably the best in the world -- and soon comes the crash.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 07:28 AM
Oct 2020

Just picture him on Nov 4, when the rats are abandoning ship and the walls are closing in around him.

Mr. Ected

(9,674 posts)
56. Because COVID is tricky and that's where its danger derives from
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:17 AM
Oct 2020

Not everyone who gets it dies or even becomes seriously ill, even among the demographic most vulnerable to it. It's a nasty virus that seemingly picks its victims randomly. I honestly couldn't care less if Trump dies or is maimed for life because of it. I only want him out of power so that we the people can take back our government and prosecute every single criminal in this political syndicate.

Trump's continued shitty response to COVID as a public health disaster is what may end up enabling the above to materialize.

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