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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI swear he DID NOT HAVE IT, HOW COULD HE HAVE????
Hes still jabbering and its been over an hour!!!!!! How was Chris Christie in ICU for 7 days and the orange piece of shit is out every damn day blabbing......how is that possible??? Oh right not a bad case and hes cured...... I TOTALLY DESPISE HIM.
JI7
(89,281 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,183 posts)bump in the polls, which if he was expecting anything, it backfired on him badly.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)but I'm not convinced he had it either. His doctors were required to lie for him.
Dlpger61
(40 posts)I dont believe he, his family, hope hicks, Chris Christie or any of the others had it, all of them have recovered with no side affects, you dont just get up out of a hospital bed with such an ailment as this virus and be as fancy free as they are.
ALL OF THEM ARE LIARS AND WILL ALWAYS BE
Takket
(21,652 posts)katmondoo
(6,457 posts)He is really pushing it!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)dem4decades
(11,310 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,644 posts)not be able to afford or even get since it is still not approved by the FDA. He is "special".
BannonsLiver
(16,531 posts)Meds you or I couldnt get and will likely never be able to get. Thats why hes alive.
ProfessorGAC
(65,289 posts)...was 100 grand per dose.
Then, PINO says everybody will get it for free.
No wonder he's not a real billionaire.
It's clear he doesn't understand how business works.
lpbk2713
(42,770 posts)If they go along with his line of bullshit.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)bluestarone
(17,091 posts)After the way his Dr. spoke, (LIED) I'm not sure if he did or not! BUT if not, We WILL find out!
Squinch
(51,059 posts)than he says he did because NO ONE gets over it that fast.
The drugs he was given were for people well into the virus process, not people just diagnosed.
And if he had it longer, he had it at the debate.
He's lying about something and lying big.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)2naSalit
(86,872 posts)crickets
(25,987 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)Or the folks whose mild to moderate symptoms respond well to treatment?
Do you honestly believe no one gets well quickly? That is... absurd.
Squinch
(51,059 posts)treatments usually reserved for people about to go on ventilators because he was asymptomatic? That's... absurd.
And no. Even people with mild symptoms don't test negative after three days.
dansolo
(5,376 posts)He could have forced them to give him the most aggressive treatment. My guess is that he had it, and when he had mild to moderate symptoms, they gave him everything they could.
Squinch
(51,059 posts)that day. He is reported to have had symptoms including shortness of breath serious enough to require oxygen.
Three days later, Oct 5, he leaves the hospital "cured."
Sorry. That's some bullshit somewhere. You don't get over a cold that fast.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)He also is clearly not symptomatic now. There is evidence of that, too.
The simplest explanation is most likely to be correct: he had mild to moderate symptoms and they threw every promising treatment at him to try to control those symptoms and promote an antibody response. The treatment worked.
Squinch
(51,059 posts)They are lying. If not about him having it at all, then about when he caught it, which had to be much earlier. And which means he went to the debate with Biden knowing he had it, and he yelled and yelled for 90 minutes.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)He wasnt cured in 3 days. Clearly he was still experiencing some symptoms several days after he was released from Walter Reed. But the symptoms were being managed and responded to treatment.
You can lead a horse to water...
Squinch
(51,059 posts)This is my point.
And as far as the possibility of the scam going the other way, that he didn't have it at all, do you think he is above faking shortness of breath to get us to stop talking about his taxes?
The Trump Circus is lying about this. We don't know what the truth is, but we can bet the house that what we have been told is a big, big lie.
FBaggins
(26,775 posts)Hes... like... a different person, right?
The virus impacts different people in different ways.
2naSalit
(86,872 posts)I think he checked himself in to the hospital for show.
crickets
(25,987 posts)There are people begging for help who can't get it and are sometimes sent home only to die, but he checks himself in. Flames. Flames on the side of my face.
robbob
(3,539 posts)I get a little amused at posts that basically say why did they do THIS for him? Hes scum; average Americans cant afford/get access to THAT.... You should know, if youve ever seen my posts, that I hate him with the fury of a thousands suns. Him and all that hypocritical, money grubbing GOP filth, but...but...
He IS the President and as such is afforded all kinds of considerations we plebes will never get. If this had happened during the Obama years dont you think we would want them to do everything possible to keep him safe and healthy?
Ok...enough on that point; here is what is really so scummy about tRump in this situation: having been afforded all these advantages, having been rushed to Walter Reed in a helicopter, having been given drugs unavailable and unaffordable to the rest of us, plus a whole team of medical professionals nursing him back to health, he turns around and says, basically; see? No big deal? Dont let it affect your life, etc. etc. He is truly incapable of learning or emphasizing in any situation.
crickets
(25,987 posts)He uses those words about checking himself into a hospital as though it's as simple as checking into a hotel. For him, I have no doubt it was. I don't think it's unreasonable to be angry at that.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/03/politics/chris-christie-coronavirus/index.html
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/10/christie-said-he-was-checking-himself-into-the-hospital-after-coronavirus-test-heres-how-doctors-say-the-system-works.html
robbob
(3,539 posts)Apologies. Yup, Christy is one privileged prick. Remember the private beach party?
crickets
(25,987 posts)Yes, Christie and his family seemed to be having a great time on that empty state beach that was closed just before the July 4th holiday. I knew he was on the beach when he shouldn't have been but only realized later it was a beach that he closed. What a piece of work!
I think he's a lobbyist now. Naturally.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Many folks are completely asymptomatic. Others experience mild symptoms requiring no treatment. Some people experience moderate symptoms briefly but respond well to treatment. Others still experience severe symptoms that do not respond to treatment.
It seems somewhat foolish to try to compare symptoms between two individuals.
Beachnutt
(7,349 posts)both were in on it and his wife and his kid.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)days. Trump considers getting sick a weakness and he hid it until he couldn't any longer.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)There is nothing he has said, at any time, that should be considered truthful without validation. There's a reason why he never completes a factual sentence, although I don't know what that is.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Thats the simplest explanation.
-Laelth
Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)right after the next debate.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I suspect that he has already been taking it too long but that his doctors made an exception for him due to the impending election.
-Laelth
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)❤️ ~✿~❧~🌿~❧~✿~ ❤️
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)a few DUers vehemently disagreed with me. I haven't changed my mind about it because he lies incessantly about everything.
Do you think he paid Ivanka $130,000 out of habit? (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)
Turin_C3PO
(14,099 posts)No way would such a conspiracy not get out by someone from Walter Reed. That's the problem with conspiracy theories. He recovered quickly because he got medicine no one else gets.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Everyone who comes within 50 feet of him signs an NDA. Trump has also always been "sue happy" by reputation.
I also look at his miraculous 2-day recovery for an obese inactive senior citizen.
Plus the incessant lies.
It would make sense if he got it due to his ridiculously careless lifestyle, but I never believe a word he (or Conley) says.
Zoonart
(11,890 posts)I was fully prepared to believe that he had the virus and has been treated accordingly....right up until I heard about the plan for the
BIG REVEAL- the discussion of a "Superman" stunt. The set up was for tRump to leave the hospital looking frail and then to rips shirt open to reveal a Superman tee shirt. That is pure television theater.
It was at that moment that I began to suspect that the entire thing had been theater and this was meant to be the grand finale.
The "Superman" story was the tell. The entire object of the play was the reveal. The glorious resurrection and stunt costuming or no... that is how they have played it. NO test dates... no details from doctors, no empathy, no masks,...It's a miracle I tell ya... a miracle.
TwilightZone
(25,505 posts)It's just typical Trump childishness and bravado.
Zoonart
(11,890 posts)TwilightZone
(25,505 posts)There's really no reason to believe he never had it. He's been mocking it for months, he hates being seen as weak, and it would be the last thing he'd want.
GoCubsGo
(32,098 posts)He's being pumped full of drugs that are masking how ill he really is. They're also using all kinds of tricks to make sure he doesn't have to exert himself too much, like using a smaller AF1, of which he enters and exits through the cargo hold. His COVID cough still makes multiple appearances, as does his COVID and drug-addled brain. He's really screwed when it all catches up to him. And, it will.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)Trump is too vain to admit that he could get sick, period. Both Mary Trump and Michael Cohen mentioned that Trump saw getting sick as a weakness. Once he did get sick he got the best medicines and immediately--versus having to wait until you're on your death bed as is the case for everyone else.
I don't believe for a minute that Trump didn't have COVID based on his ego, his denial that COVID was "big thing", and everyone else at the Super Spreader event who got sick (as well as Chris Christie from the debate prep).
BUT, once he did contract it all energy was on how to spin it in such a way as to feed his ego. Luckily for Trump he responded well to the cocktail he was given.
Cha
(297,864 posts)Million $$$ drugs including Steroids that have been noted in this thread.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Some of my coworkers have had it, almost all of them have shrugged it off easily except one guy he died and his wife nearly died with him.
A vast conspiracy involving his entire utterly-leaky administration and all the medical staff seems a lot less likely than a scenario where he caught a mild case and got the best medical care leading to a quick recovery.
Squinch
(51,059 posts)and negative test in 3 days?
Somewhere in there is a big, big lie. We don't know what the truth is, but we know that shit's a lie.
Ilsa
(61,709 posts)His campaign and debate schedule. I think he's taking it easier than usual all month, reserving his energy and breath. The pneumonia got bad enough that they had to admit him to WR where he got the best meds. He looked really weak and breathless on the balcony.
IcyPeas
(21,925 posts)Just sayin'
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)If he did get it, it was planned.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)... about his taxes in a hurry!
It was covered a lot by the media, then BOOM... another Trump distraction!
Of course, Trump was probably just playing 0-dimensional chess again. The chess of the void, and his infinitely DENSE mind, where the laws of logic break down and there's just randomness.
Squinch
(51,059 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,098 posts)He's jabbering for an hour because he is quite obviously as high as a kite. Steroids do that to you. You'll also notice that he is flying a 757, rather than the 747. Last night, he got off it from the rear cargo hatch. That wasn't the first time he got on and off through the belly of the plane. They're doing everything they can to make sure he doesn't have to climb or go down large numbers of stairs, from using a smaller plane, to entering and exiting it from an elevated platform. Because he can't. He still huffs and puffs and gasps for air. He had it. They are just covering up the fact that he is still affected by it.
I was skeptical when it first came out that he was infected. But, I have been watching every one of his stunts. And, the way they have been obfuscating and covering up. This is not going to end well for him
Earthshine2
(4,044 posts)Just picture him on Nov 4, when the rats are abandoning ship and the walls are closing in around him.
It is a set up to make him look strong and smarter than science.
Mr. Ected
(9,674 posts)Not everyone who gets it dies or even becomes seriously ill, even among the demographic most vulnerable to it. It's a nasty virus that seemingly picks its victims randomly. I honestly couldn't care less if Trump dies or is maimed for life because of it. I only want him out of power so that we the people can take back our government and prosecute every single criminal in this political syndicate.
Trump's continued shitty response to COVID as a public health disaster is what may end up enabling the above to materialize.