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niyad

(131,834 posts)
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:07 AM Oct 2020

So the mass murdering orange traitor manages to flee, thinks he will be safe. Apparently he has

no clue about the long reach, not just of the law, but of Kharma. Idiot.

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kacekwl

(9,101 posts)
1. I hope someone is putting together a list
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:13 AM
Oct 2020

of trump criminals to put on a no fly list after November 3rd. And an asset freeze for them also.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
4. Does she get s.s. protection after they are divorced?
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:20 AM
Oct 2020

If he leaves the country we won't have to pay for his protection. And they already have guards in prisons so we'll save money there too.

niyad

(131,834 posts)
6. We have never had a former president flee the country. Nor had a divorce after, so how will that
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

work, do you suppose?

dalton99a

(93,760 posts)
8. This question came up before - Congress should remove the protection and make him get his own
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:17 PM
Oct 2020
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/would-a-former-president-get-secret-service-protection-in-prison.html
Would a Former President Get Secret Service Protection in Prison?
What about a former first lady?

By Daniel Engber
June 04, 2018 7:30 AM

A prison setting might be safe in some regards. An incarcerated former president or first lady wouldn’t have to worry too much about being kidnapped, for example, or blackmailed for information. But he or she would be at a heightened risk of violence. (Rapes and other assaults occur 15 to 30 times more often among prisoners than in the general population.) It’s possible the Secret Service would deploy a protective detail at the facility, with agents stationed in the cellblock, the prison yard, or otherwise in the vicinity of the VIP inmate.

In this scenario, agents wouldn’t have to be hanging out inside the former president or first lady’s cell—just close enough to keep an eye out. The situation might be analogous—loosely analogous—to how the Secret Service protects the president’s children while they’re in school. While Calvin Coolidge’s son, John, went to Amherst College in 1926, a Secret Service agent lived in the same house as him and remained by his side throughout the day—except when John was in class or hanging out with his buddies during recreation periods. Agents guarding Julie Nixon when she was enrolled at Smith College maintained a post outside her dorm room overnight and then joined up with her when she went out. They also took their meals in the college mess hall. Secret service agents deployed at Stanford University on behalf of Chelsea Clinton dressed like students in order to fit in. (Would Secret Service agents guarding an incarcerated former president dress in prison blues? No one knows.)

Another option for the Secret Service would be to hand off its protective responsibilities to the Bureau of Prisons or appropriate state-level Department of Corrections. When Hillary Clinton joined President Barack Obama’s Cabinet in 2009, the Secret Service turned over at least some of the work of protecting her to the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security. If a former president or first lady were locked up, the Secret Service might inspect the prison and its procedures to ensure everything was up to snuff, and then agree to let the warden handle things from there. Even then, the agency might choose to keep a modest presence in the prison, with an agent stationed in an administrative office, for example. It might also have a special plan for extracting the former president or first lady in case of prison riots.

It’s possible that Congress would pass a law that stripped the incarcerated former president or first lady of their protection. (Lawmakers have often tweaked the rules on who gets a Secret Service detail, and for how long. At the moment, former presidents get the perk for life, while their spouses lose it if they remarry.) A former president or first lady could also make the choice to forgo Secret Service protection. Pat Nixon asked for hers to be dropped in 1984; her husband followed suit in 1985.

mchill

(1,188 posts)
3. Secret Service will at least know where he is
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:17 AM
Oct 2020

When he starts selling State Secrets to his foreign debters.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
7. Where does he think he can go - who wants him? He owes money
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:15 PM
Oct 2020

if he is no longer president he has no worth or leverage to any country and he has no assets just debt. I don't know why people think he can flee to Russia... Putin has no use for him

lame54

(39,613 posts)
10. Plastic surgery...
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:22 PM
Oct 2020

You won't recognize him
Then he will open his mouth and it will all be over

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
12. Putin needs a new court jester. Steven Segal isn't cutting it and is heading for a 4th floor balcony
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:52 PM
Oct 2020

niyad

(131,834 posts)
13. One must have a sense of humour, and courage, to be a court jester, the one who could speak
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:55 PM
Oct 2020

truth to power.

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