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Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:19 PM

Interesting. I just heard mention of a 'Corona Virus' on a 2003 episode of 'Law and Order'.

And mentioning SARS, coming from China. Something about a woman dying in an auto accident, and they discover she had vials of a corona virus in the trunk of her car.

Season 14, episode 3 - "Patient Zero".

(Sunday are my 'days off' from political television.)

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Reply Interesting. I just heard mention of a 'Corona Virus' on a 2003 episode of 'Law and Order'. (Original post)
Siwsan Sunday OP
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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:23 PM

1. SARS was a related Coronavirus. It was caused by SARS-COV-1. Covid-19 is caused by SARS-COV-2

The Middle Eastern Coronavirus (MERS-COV) is another.

The SARS outbreak occurred in 2002-2003, so it was a topical current reference at the time the show was made and SARS-COV-1 did originate in China.

None of this is new to those working in infectious diseases--many who saw the first indications of COVID-19 in a shared public health research global email in December at which time, CDC really began ramping up and spreading (an ignored) alarm.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:26 PM

8. I know they found an antibody in some SARS-CoV-1 patients that zaps CoV-2.

Very potent antibody.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

12. There is some cross-protection for sure. We shall see. As with SARS, COVID-19 is showing an

immune response more guided by activated t-cells than antibodies, which tend to be short-lived, but it may well be possible that they will be sufficiently stimulated by some of the current vaccines in testing.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #12)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:34 PM

18. There's even protection from common cold antibodies.

That is, if you still have them. I think the science
gave a five-year window.

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Response to ananda (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:37 PM

22. There are 7 known corona viruses that infect humans.

4 are of the common cold variety, then there is SARS-CoV-1, SARS-CoV-2 and MERS.

I would hope they are looking at how to genetically engineer a virus from one of the common cold ones to induce SARS-CoV-1 immunity.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

14. I think the episode has something to do with a Middle Eastern connection.

It's funny - when I first heard it mentioned I thought my ears were playing tricks on me. And I'm sure I've seen this episode before. Well, no doubt since I'm addicted to the repeats, but at one time that mention wouldn't have hit a nerve, at all.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #14)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:34 PM

17. Well, that may be a Hollywood addition, since MERS-COV did not emerge until 2012.

But, if the show had a terrorism aspect to the plot, I can see why they might have inferred.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #17)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:38 PM

23. It was just such a weird thing to hear on a 17 year old show!

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:23 PM

2. That's Weird!

But, CVs aren't rare. The common cold is a coronavirus illness.
Still, from 17 years ago...
And, you happened to watch that episode!
Weird, indeed.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:23 PM

3. I think there are many Corona viruses. n/t

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Response to napi21 (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:34 PM

16. There are. We've dealt with coronaviruses in cat rescue for decades.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:40 PM

25. I know there are - it was just a startle to hear. Kind of like the past becoming the present.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:25 PM

4. We have a rooster named Jack McCoy

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:25 PM

5. fiction thankfully. The family of Corona viruses includes several strains which cause the

common cold.

It's not a big stretch for a writer to use the idea of a pandemic (like Spanish Flu) and create a storyline like that.

Listen to the podcast "This Podcast Will Kill You", the first Coronavirus episode. It is a good listen

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:25 PM

6. There are 4 corona viruses.

. MERS, SARS , COVID IS SARS II I forgot the 4th. Some of them have limited immunity or cyclinical immunity which is why they come back every year. And why Fauci said ut might be cyclinal at those hearings.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:25 PM

7. Just more evidence Hollywood is part of "The Deep State"!

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

9. I also watched the episode.

Thought what a coincidence from over 15 years ago. Then I thought of all we have been through since then. It has to get better, right?

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

10. Movie from 1950 titled "The Killer that stalked New York"

I just saw it recently on TV. It’s about a case of smallpox coming into New York and the contact tracing they had to do, pretty interesting. Of course they already had a vaccine for when they found who had been exposed, unlike now.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

13. Slightly OT: I hope they reboot that show

I miss it.

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #13)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:35 PM

19. It would never be the same, without Jack McCoy

He's my fictional hero. When I was still working in a VERY toxic department, I was only sleeping 2 or 3 hours a night. I watched each and every Law and Order rerun, repeatedly. Then once I extracted myself from that nightmare of a job, I couldn't break the habit. BUT I found that if I was having trouble sleeping, watching it seemed to help me turn off my residual anxieties and fall back to sleep. I credit Jack with saving my sanity.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #19)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:39 PM

24. How about Jerry Orbach?

It was never the same after he left.

Having said that, I'd still like them to reboot the show.

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #24)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:44 PM

27. Ah, Lenny. I love how they did mention him, again, just before the show ended.

When Rey came back to bury his wife, and met up with VanBuren.

Actually, my favorite episodes are those last few seasons with Linus Roache playing Mike Cutter but they are my favorites by just a fraction because, once Jack McCoy came on the scene, it was love, love, love.

The earlier seasons with Michael Moriarty were 'ok'. He just wasn't Jack.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #27)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:49 PM

29. I'm annoyed that the entire duration of the series is currently unavailable for streaming

You can get select seasons via Peacock but you have to pay extra for it.

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:33 PM

15. Remember "Trackdown" TV show with the con man named "Trump"?

Trump wanted to sell the town a wall they didn’t need or want to prevent the end o’ the worl’.



“You’re under arrest, Trump.”

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #15)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:36 PM

20. I'd never seen that!!

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Response to Siwsan (Original post)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:37 PM

21. I believe it's due to being discovered in 2019, or this is the

19th version.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #21)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:42 PM

26. I know it's been around for ages. Just didn't expect to have it show up on Law and Order!

Another funny thing is how often trump* has been mentioned on a number of the episodes. At one time I would never have even noticed - much like with this Covid mention.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #26)

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:46 PM

28. That's ok lol. I can remember tons of people back in March

absolutely freaking about Clorox and Lysol bottles mentioning it from before.

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