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niyad

(113,731 posts)
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:06 PM Oct 2020

"The King's Speech". If you have not seen it, look for it. Hearing about lara mocking Joe's stutter

Earlier today brought this movie to mind. For those unfamiliar with it, about King George VI, who became (unwillingly) king after his nazi-sympathizing brother david abdicated. He had a serious stuttering problem. The movie focuses on his most unconventional speech therapy, and the friendship that grew between HRM and the therapist.



Utterly fascinating, and an object lesson for today.

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"The King's Speech". If you have not seen it, look for it. Hearing about lara mocking Joe's stutter (Original Post) niyad Oct 2020 OP
That is a wonderful film. Siwsan Oct 2020 #1
I will watch it again, as well. niyad Oct 2020 #7
Such a good movie. dewsgirl Oct 2020 #2
Indeed. niyad Oct 2020 #8
I love that movie... Spazito Oct 2020 #3
Nor did I. niyad Oct 2020 #6
Excellent film! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #4
You are most welcome! niyad Oct 2020 #5
I had forgotten this movie "The Kings Speech"..the RWNJs can eat shit... asiliveandbreathe Oct 2020 #9
Sadly, they seem to think it makes them look strong, at least in the perverse realm they niyad Oct 2020 #12
It's a wonderful movie, elleng Oct 2020 #10
Just caught it again a few nights ago. Now I want the dvd. niyad Oct 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Oct 2020 #11
I am guessing that you forgot the sarcasm icon? niyad Oct 2020 #13
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Stupid history? Seriously? What, exactly, was stupid about the inter-war years, the rise of the niyad Oct 2020 #17
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Wow. You clearly missed the entire movie.it wasn't about "A" speech, it was about HIS speech, niyad Oct 2020 #32
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Radio was still fairly new. Cracklin Charlie Oct 2020 #20
Agreed Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #16
Because those headphones would be a crutch Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2020 #19
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One of the best films I've ever seen. Cracklin Charlie Oct 2020 #18
I adore Colin Firth in whatever role he plays, but this was truly amazing. niyad Oct 2020 #21
My favorite bit is when Mrs Logue, who does not know that her husband has been working with the king Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2020 #22
"Would you care to stay for dinner?" The end of the movie talks about the award, and how Logue niyad Oct 2020 #23
That was my favorite scene as well. NutmegYankee Oct 2020 #25
The best part of that scene? Chichiri Oct 2020 #28
So very true. niyad Oct 2020 #33
It was also a very cute Easter Egg between the actors obamanut2012 Oct 2020 #38
Love that movie! Hadn't thought of it regarding Biden but that is a great thought LymphocyteLover Oct 2020 #24
I knew we would see the rise of the nazi ilk again. I just never imagined that the person in the niyad Oct 2020 #26
It's wild... and let's just hope the Nazis lose again! LymphocyteLover Oct 2020 #37
Perhaps Lara will relate more to the life story of George III. Marcuse Oct 2020 #27
I doubt she knows that history. niyad Oct 2020 #34
LOL!!! Early on in the Trump presidency there were several pieces comparing him to Mad King George LymphocyteLover Oct 2020 #39
Brilliant movie, pushed all my emotional buttons. Paladin Oct 2020 #30
May they all end up in prison where they belong. niyad Oct 2020 #35
Just as soon as possible. (nt) Paladin Oct 2020 #42
Excellent movie Hekate Oct 2020 #40
It was, indeed. niyad Oct 2020 #41
The King's Speech is one of Joe's favorite movies LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #43
Thank you for sharing this deeply touching moment with our President. I was niyad Mar 2022 #44
If you listen carefully, you can tell when Joe is relying on breaks/pauses in his speech LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #45
Once I knew about the stuttering, the pauses, etc., were completely niyad Mar 2022 #46
Putin will continue to attack Ukraine and NATO until he is removed from power LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #47

Spazito

(50,559 posts)
3. I love that movie...
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

I didn't know King George VI, Queen Elizabeth's father, had a bad stutter until this movie came out.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. Excellent film!
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:10 PM
Oct 2020

Also going back to the top of my queue for a re-watch. Thanks for the reminder, Niyad!

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
9. I had forgotten this movie "The Kings Speech"..the RWNJs can eat shit...
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:16 PM
Oct 2020

They will continue to swing and fling their disgusting rhetoric and vile personal attacks..and the more they do, the more they are exposed....

object lesson for today, INDEED!

niyad

(113,731 posts)
12. Sadly, they seem to think it makes them look strong, at least in the perverse realm they
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:23 PM
Oct 2020

Pollute. Has never made sense to me.

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niyad

(113,731 posts)
17. Stupid history? Seriously? What, exactly, was stupid about the inter-war years, the rise of the
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:42 PM
Oct 2020

nazis, a pro-nazi sympathizer on the throne of GB, and WWII??

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niyad

(113,731 posts)
32. Wow. You clearly missed the entire movie.it wasn't about "A" speech, it was about HIS speech,
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 03:00 PM
Oct 2020

Throughout his entire life! Perhaps you might watch it again, all the way through, including the very informative credits, after doing some reading in history.

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Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
20. Radio was still fairly new.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:47 PM
Oct 2020

He had to give many speeches in public.

Best to train him to speak without headphones.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
19. Because those headphones would be a crutch
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:47 PM
Oct 2020

The king would have to deliver speeches when headphones wouldn't be available. He had to learn to deal with his stutter.

I had a stutter when I was a boy. A speech therapist trained me how to get over it.

Response to Fortinbras Armstrong (Reply #19)

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
18. One of the best films I've ever seen.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:45 PM
Oct 2020

The actor playing the king is amazing.

His face literally goes red when his brother mocks his stutter.

I could watch it again and again.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
22. My favorite bit is when Mrs Logue, who does not know that her husband has been working with the king
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:53 PM
Oct 2020

Comes home to find the queen sitting at her dining room table, drinking a cup of tea and reading a newspaper. And the bit where her husband tells her, "Dear, this is King George VI". "How do you do, Mrs Logue."

I looked it up, and while Logue didn't get a knighthood, he was made a Companion of the Royal Victorian Order, which is given for personal services to the monarch.

niyad

(113,731 posts)
23. "Would you care to stay for dinner?" The end of the movie talks about the award, and how Logue
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:59 PM
Oct 2020

was beside him for every speech, and how they remained friends.

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
28. The best part of that scene?
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 02:33 PM
Oct 2020

Colin Firth, who played the King, and Jennifer Ehle, who played Mrs Logue, were the stars of the 1995 Pride and Prejudice, one of the grea romantic pairings of all time. Watching them meet like that 15 years later was just hilarious and great.

obamanut2012

(26,179 posts)
38. It was also a very cute Easter Egg between the actors
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 03:29 PM
Oct 2020

Jennifer Ehle, who played Mrs. Logue, was Elizabeth Bennet to Colin Firth's Fitzwillian Darcy in the very famous BBC miniseries of Pride & Prejudice.

Rewatch that scene, and watch how Ehle is like, wait...... is that......

LymphocyteLover

(5,662 posts)
24. Love that movie! Hadn't thought of it regarding Biden but that is a great thought
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 02:02 PM
Oct 2020

Makes me emotional thinking about Biden leading us against Nazis

niyad

(113,731 posts)
26. I knew we would see the rise of the nazi ilk again. I just never imagined that the person in the
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 02:10 PM
Oct 2020

Oval Ofice would be their cheerleader. Biden and George VI really have some very important things in common.

LymphocyteLover

(5,662 posts)
39. LOL!!! Early on in the Trump presidency there were several pieces comparing him to Mad King George
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 03:40 PM
Oct 2020

not so much lately

Paladin

(28,281 posts)
30. Brilliant movie, pushed all my emotional buttons.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 02:40 PM
Oct 2020

And I guess Lara decided there weren't quite enough assholes in her family, and felt the need to contribute. Bad decision, Ms. trump; judgment awaits, just days away.....

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,778 posts)
43. The King's Speech is one of Joe's favorite movies
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 01:31 AM
Mar 2022



In Biden’s office, the first time I bring up his current stuttering, he asks me whether I’ve seen The King’s Speech. He speaks almost mystically about the award-winning 2010 film. “When King George VI, when he stood up in 1939, everyone knew he stuttered, and they knew what courage it took for him to stand up at that stadium and try to speak—and it gave them courage … I could feel that. It was that sinking feeling, like—oh my God, I remember how you felt. You feel like, I don’t know … almost like you’re being sucked into a black hole.”

Presidential candidates usually don’t speak about their bleakest moments, certainly not this viscerally. It resembles the way Biden writes in his memoir about the aftermath of the 1972 car accident that killed his first wife and young daughter and critically injured his two sons, Beau and Hunter: “I could not speak, only felt this hollow core grow in my chest, like I was going to be sucked inside a black hole.”

A few weeks later, I ask Jill Biden what she remembers about sitting next to her husband during the movie. “It was one of those moments in a marriage where you just sort of understand without words being spoken,” she says.

As he watched The King’s Speech, Biden accurately guessed that the screenwriter, David Seidler, was a stutterer. “He showed me a copy of a speech they found in an attic that the king had actually used, where he marks his—it’s exactly what I do!” Biden tells me, his voice lifting. “My staff, when I have them put something on a prompter—I wish I had something to show you.”

niyad

(113,731 posts)
44. Thank you for sharing this deeply touching moment with our President. I was
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 08:16 AM
Mar 2022

thinking about the movie with the latest nonsense over his speech in Poland. Just sickening.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,778 posts)
45. If you listen carefully, you can tell when Joe is relying on breaks/pauses in his speech
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 01:59 PM
Mar 2022

I stuttered until fourth grade. I got to discuss stuttering with Joe at a fund raiser during the private meet and greet portion of the event. During this greet and meet, Joe told me about the children who stutter he keeps in touch with. This clip discusses the children Joe tries to help and discusses the King's Speech



Joe's comment about Putin in yesterdays' truly great speech reflect what a great many people believe about Putin






Putin will not stop with Ukraine and must be stopped

niyad

(113,731 posts)
46. Once I knew about the stuttering, the pauses, etc., were completely
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 06:04 PM
Mar 2022

understandable. It is such a kind and loving thing that he does for the young people.

His comment about Putin was no gaffe, no accident.

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