Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:01 AM

Atticus (13,574 posts)

I guess someone needs to say it: astrology is in the same category as alchemy, palm reading

and TV psychics, i.e., horseshit.

Traditional religion is criticized here, but we actually have posts predicting future events based on the position of the stars? I thought we were past "The Age Of Aquarius".

Yeah, I know---freedom of religion, freedom of speech----. Silliness is silliness no matter what you call it.

Go for it.

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I guess someone needs to say it: astrology is in the same category as alchemy, palm reading (Original post)	Atticus	Oct 2020	OP
So what's your sign?	Deb	Oct 2020	#1
I'm thinking...	Hugin	Oct 2020	#14
Fesces	KatyMan	Oct 2020	#17
I like that! Hopefully next month we'll be saying that Trump's astrological sign is Feces.	Towlie	Oct 2020	#108
Exit.	lagomorph777	Oct 2020	#20
I used to be a Virgo, until I got Pisces.	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#103
"So what's your sign?" (says sign) "That figures, (sign) people never believe in astrology."	Towlie	Oct 2020	#107
'Slippery When Wet'	zackymilly	Oct 2020	#129
I just cast some bones, and man oh man are you gonna get it now!	ret5hd	Oct 2020	#2
I believe in tolerance on this because I've never heard astrology used to attack or otherwise harm	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#3
An adult can believe in Santa Claus, and that's not going to harm anyone	Silent3	Oct 2020	#35
Yes it is and extremely derisive. Shame on you	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#37
What part of that exactly am I supposed to feel shame about?	Silent3	Oct 2020	#39
..	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#40
Where did I call all others insane?	Silent3	Oct 2020	#41
Well, there ya go again--tryin' to muddy up the discussion with facts and relevance! ---sigh--- nt	Atticus	Oct 2020	#47
Feel the same about anti-vaxers? nt	USALiberal	Oct 2020	#67
Poppycock!!	PTWB	Oct 2020	#60
My issue is with attacking other DUers for participating in a belief you (and I) do not share	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#71
You're mistaken.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#76
Civil debate is not belittling nor calling those w beliefs/interests differing from yours "insane"	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#77
He claims he did not.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#79
Insanity is based on a clinical definition, specific criteria & pattern of behavior--not a single	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#83
So you do not think that someone who holds such views is insane?	PTWB	Oct 2020	#85
I am a clinician. I already told you how an insanity diagnosis is made.	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#86
I see this often.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#87
Nor do they take patient's self-diagnoses--physical or mental-- as fact.	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#88
Who would take self-diagnosis as fact?	PTWB	Oct 2020	#91
you, apparently.	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#92
Nope, not me. I value the opinions of experts.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#98
Okay, hang on, this is important:	snort	Oct 2020	#111
True believers know the moon is made of green cheese.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#118
I'm a great believer at pointing and laughing at people who believe nonsense.	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#104
Can you believe it?	PTWB	Oct 2020	#106
Flat Earthers are another "harmless" belief	flotsam	Oct 2020	#114
+1	cwydro	Oct 2020	#116
If someone tells you that they sincerely believe the earth is flat...	PTWB	Oct 2020	#119
I can honestly say that no one has never made such a statement to me.	cwydro	Oct 2020	#135
It seems to give them the opportunity	PatSeg	Oct 2020	#157
I think you've hit the nail on the head.	cwydro	Oct 2020	#158
I encountered it here at DU	PatSeg	Oct 2020	#160
Shame on YOU!	MicaelS	Oct 2020	#126
Tolerance of other's beliefs that do not harm others is a progessive value. I am a scientist, but I	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#128
I agree with you	rusty fender	Oct 2020	#51
And scene. Well said.	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#101
Mahalo, hlthe2b! It does seem a litte	Cha	Oct 2020	#150
Sorry to have to say it, but astrology is just as anti-science crap as tRump crap. . . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Oct 2020	#4
Still fun though	DeminPennswoods	Oct 2020	#5
Fun for some, perhaps.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#64
Why not just put that forum on ignore?	Siwsan	Oct 2020	#6
+1	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#7
Good answer	Kitchari	Oct 2020	#19
Characterizing nonsense as "beliefs" does not elevate it to some sacred status. I criticize those	Atticus	Oct 2020	#24
I just don't understand the need. Their beliefs aren't harmful. trump* cultist's are.	Siwsan	Oct 2020	#25
I don't understand it either	PatSeg	Oct 2020	#34
There's nothing innocuous about charging real people real money to tell their futures.	Act_of_Reparation	Oct 2020	#73
Real people pay real money	PatSeg	Oct 2020	#93
Violent video games isn't much different than violent movies	JonLP24	Oct 2020	#105
Oh, I'm not dissing video games in general	PatSeg	Oct 2020	#113
I like the open world games	JonLP24	Oct 2020	#117
There you go	PatSeg	Oct 2020	#123
How is it "entertainment" if people actually think it works?	Act_of_Reparation	Oct 2020	#155
I want intelligent people on the DU! Nt	USALiberal	Oct 2020	#56
That's so generalizing and harsh! I'm actually a little shocked.	Siwsan	Oct 2020	#75
If you had an acquaintance who held illogical beliefs..	PTWB	Oct 2020	#78
I think we're wandering a bit off the path, here	Siwsan	Oct 2020	#82
Flat Earthers ok? Anti-Vacs ok? Covid is a Hoax ok? Mind readers ok?	USALiberal	Oct 2020	#80
"---valid to them---"? Isn't that saying they are entitled to have their chosen set of	Atticus	Oct 2020	#62
And I believe they do have rights to their own beliefs - they're not maliciously impacting others.	Siwsan	Oct 2020	#68
"Their beliefs aren't harmful"?	Act_of_Reparation	Oct 2020	#72
I think you are digging way to far into this. I'm referring to the people on DU	Siwsan	Oct 2020	#74
You talk about them like they exist in a vacuum.	Act_of_Reparation	Oct 2020	#81
I'm talking about not being rude and insulting to fellow DUers	Siwsan	Oct 2020	#84
As long as we're just making assertions, neither does sanctimonious finger-wagging.	Act_of_Reparation	Oct 2020	#156
I hope that let's you feel better.	Siwsan	Oct 2020	#159
Lol!	USALiberal	Oct 2020	#55
I've notice there are several here who enjoy lecturing the rest of us.	cwydro	Oct 2020	#69
Because some people need something to be upset over.	EllieBC	Oct 2020	#124
We are of the same mindset	Siwsan	Oct 2020	#125
Well said, EllieBC. boom.	Cha	Oct 2020	#144
Yes, master	bobnicewander	Oct 2020	#8
lol... not really.	Cha	Oct 2020	#145
Are you talking about posts in General Discussion, or posts in the Astrology group? n/t	sl8	Oct 2020	#9
It doesn't pick my pocket	Cirque du So-What	Oct 2020	#10
Can I get a...	Hugin	Oct 2020	#18
My three fav takes on the whole 'astrology, homeopathy, religion, psychic,' horseshit bandwagon:	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#11
These were terrific! Thanks for sharing. nt	chowder66	Oct 2020	#94
Glad you enjoyed them. Here in France we're plagued with the homeopathy people.	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#97
I get that. I'm in California.nt	chowder66	Oct 2020	#99
Well, at least you're close to lots of water.	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#100
lol.	chowder66	Oct 2020	#102
I prefer belief systems that make me think (and laugh).	Duncan Grant	Oct 2020	#132
It's always interesting to me that English, Irish, Scottish, and Australian comedians have a better	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#133
Pyramid power is my favorite tale	BSdetect	Oct 2020	#12
Oh, yeah!	Hugin	Oct 2020	#16
Is this something that people -- here -- didn't realize?	brooklynite	Oct 2020	#13
Some posts appear regularly in general discussion so, apparently, yes. See the defensive posts	Atticus	Oct 2020	#43
"Defensive"? Oh because they don't	Cha	Oct 2020	#146
A "different belief system"? Uh, ok. I guess that is one way to describe it. Disingenuous, but	Atticus	Oct 2020	#147
you don't know what you're talking about	Cha	Oct 2020	#149
Where was all this righteous indignation when Christian's were being mocked for believing	Atticus	Oct 2020	#152
Of course you "stand by" attacking another Forum on DU.	Cha	Oct 2020	#153
That is a forum. As explained above, I did not attack it. I regret that you disagree. nt	Atticus	Oct 2020	#154
it's all pseudoscience. just ignore it.	NRaleighLiberal	Oct 2020	#15
Gravity is overrated too.	panader0	Oct 2020	#21
Tides Are A Daily Prank	ProfessorGAC	Oct 2020	#142
I'm a Taurus so I don't believe in astrology...	uriel1972	Oct 2020	#22
When my puppy dumps his food and water bowls over, I can predict how the day will go	milestogo	Oct 2020	#23
ahhh, EVERY day is a good day with a new puppy.	hlthe2b	Oct 2020	#27
What we call astrology is a bastardization of	LuvNewcastle	Oct 2020	#26
Astrology is usually based on the Zodiac as it was 130 BCE	Klaralven	Oct 2020	#28
there you go, bringing science and stuff	uriel1972	Oct 2020	#29
Many people say Trump is the worst Gemini ever	dalton99a	Oct 2020	#30
Fun fact: most white collar criminals are Gemini	soothsayer	Oct 2020	#48
The stars and planets (other than earth) have zero effect on anyone's life	Johnny2X2X	Oct 2020	#31
buttery males O.o?	uriel1972	Oct 2020	#32
But her emails.	Johnny2X2X	Oct 2020	#36
ah I understand now.	uriel1972	Oct 2020	#38
Meteors, on the other hand, can really wreck your day...	Klaralven	Oct 2020	#33
Meteors, schmeteors!	Silent3	Oct 2020	#53
It's all part of a continuum too	Silent3	Oct 2020	#50
and Tarot	eShirl	Oct 2020	#42
I have fun with tarot cards sometimes...	uriel1972	Oct 2020	#44
and some decks have amazing artwork	eShirl	Oct 2020	#45
yeah I have a few sets...	uriel1972	Oct 2020	#46
Try ordering an Astrology profile from Astrodienst by Liz Greene	Beringia	Oct 2020	#49
Better yet, order two or more...	Silent3	Oct 2020	#52
Why in the hell would anyone do this??? Nt	USALiberal	Oct 2020	#58
"Please throw away $65."	Codeine	Oct 2020	#89
Interesting take.	2naSalit	Oct 2020	#54
Yeah, that's it.	Act_of_Reparation	Oct 2020	#57
LMFAO	Casual User	Oct 2020	#61
astrology is to astronomy	uriel1972	Oct 2020	#63
Whatever.	2naSalit	Oct 2020	#65
Bingo - And scene.	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#127
LOL, parody post I assume. Almost fooled me! nt	USALiberal	Oct 2020	#66
observing where the sun is astronomical observation	eShirl	Oct 2020	#110
You do know that astronomy and astrology aren't the same thing, right?	PTWB	Oct 2020	#121
This message was self-deleted by its author	GoneOffShore	Oct 2020	#130
Did you watch the entire sky? If not I suggest you do	LanternWaste	Oct 2020	#136
You're replying to the wrong person.	PTWB	Oct 2020	#138
I'm kinda glad	Casual User	Oct 2020	#59
The Whole Idea of Keeping Time Based...	jayfish	Oct 2020	#70
Calling Miss Cleo	malaise	Oct 2020	#90
We need a White House astrologer	dalton99a	Oct 2020	#112
Hehehehehhe	malaise	Oct 2020	#115
The only difference between a cult and a religion	AnyFunctioningAdult	Oct 2020	#95
I enjoy talking about karma jokingly, but unfortunately the universe...	Silent3	Oct 2020	#120
Uh oh	KatyMan	Oct 2020	#96
Fresh new perspective you have here	ornotna	Oct 2020	#109
What?	PTWB	Oct 2020	#122
Lol.	cwydro	Oct 2020	#140
I just watched Hair for the first time the other night...	lame54	Oct 2020	#131
I feel the same way about money. Worst cult EVER!	hunter	Oct 2020	#134
in a large complex society barter economics	uriel1972	Oct 2020	#137
All you have to do is believe in it.	hunter	Oct 2020	#139
it's as real as borders and units of measurement	uriel1972	Oct 2020	#141
Just because we can't imagine something doesn't mean it's impossible.	hunter	Oct 2020	#143
star trek tng's economy is based on being able	uriel1972	Oct 2020	#151
Not going to crap on anyone's belief systems after all..	HipChick	Oct 2020	#148

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:05 AM

Deb (3,663 posts)

I guess someone needs to say it: astrology is in the same category as alchemy, palm reading

1. So what's your sign?

14. I'm thinking...

17. Fesces

108. I like that! Hopefully next month we'll be saying that Trump's astrological sign is Feces.

20. Exit.

103. I used to be a Virgo, until I got Pisces.

107. "So what's your sign?" (says sign) "That figures, (sign) people never believe in astrology."

129. 'Slippery When Wet'

2. I just cast some bones, and man oh man are you gonna get it now!

3. I believe in tolerance on this because I've never heard astrology used to attack or otherwise harm

35. An adult can believe in Santa Claus, and that's not going to harm anyone

37. Yes it is and extremely derisive. Shame on you

39. What part of that exactly am I supposed to feel shame about?

40. ..

41. Where did I call all others insane?

47. Well, there ya go again--tryin' to muddy up the discussion with facts and relevance! ---sigh--- nt

67. Feel the same about anti-vaxers? nt

60. Poppycock!!

71. My issue is with attacking other DUers for participating in a belief you (and I) do not share

76. You're mistaken.

77. Civil debate is not belittling nor calling those w beliefs/interests differing from yours "insane"

79. He claims he did not.

83. Insanity is based on a clinical definition, specific criteria & pattern of behavior--not a single

85. So you do not think that someone who holds such views is insane?

86. I am a clinician. I already told you how an insanity diagnosis is made.

87. I see this often.

88. Nor do they take patient's self-diagnoses--physical or mental-- as fact.

91. Who would take self-diagnosis as fact?

92. you, apparently.

98. Nope, not me. I value the opinions of experts.

111. Okay, hang on, this is important:

118. True believers know the moon is made of green cheese.

104. I'm a great believer at pointing and laughing at people who believe nonsense.

106. Can you believe it?

114. Flat Earthers are another "harmless" belief

116. +1

119. If someone tells you that they sincerely believe the earth is flat...

135. I can honestly say that no one has never made such a statement to me.

157. It seems to give them the opportunity

158. I think you've hit the nail on the head.

160. I encountered it here at DU

126. Shame on YOU!

128. Tolerance of other's beliefs that do not harm others is a progessive value. I am a scientist, but I

51. I agree with you

101. And scene. Well said.

150. Mahalo, hlthe2b! It does seem a litte

4. Sorry to have to say it, but astrology is just as anti-science crap as tRump crap. . . . nt

5. Still fun though

64. Fun for some, perhaps.

6. Why not just put that forum on ignore?

7. +1

19. Good answer

24. Characterizing nonsense as "beliefs" does not elevate it to some sacred status. I criticize those

25. I just don't understand the need. Their beliefs aren't harmful. trump* cultist's are.

34. I don't understand it either

73. There's nothing innocuous about charging real people real money to tell their futures.

93. Real people pay real money

105. Violent video games isn't much different than violent movies

113. Oh, I'm not dissing video games in general

117. I like the open world games

123. There you go

155. How is it "entertainment" if people actually think it works?

56. I want intelligent people on the DU! Nt

75. That's so generalizing and harsh! I'm actually a little shocked.

78. If you had an acquaintance who held illogical beliefs..

82. I think we're wandering a bit off the path, here

80. Flat Earthers ok? Anti-Vacs ok? Covid is a Hoax ok? Mind readers ok?

62. "---valid to them---"? Isn't that saying they are entitled to have their chosen set of

68. And I believe they do have rights to their own beliefs - they're not maliciously impacting others.

72. "Their beliefs aren't harmful"?

74. I think you are digging way to far into this. I'm referring to the people on DU

81. You talk about them like they exist in a vacuum.

84. I'm talking about not being rude and insulting to fellow DUers

156. As long as we're just making assertions, neither does sanctimonious finger-wagging.

159. I hope that let's you feel better.

55. Lol!

69. I've notice there are several here who enjoy lecturing the rest of us.

124. Because some people need something to be upset over.

125. We are of the same mindset