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DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 06:14 PM Oct 2020

Schumer will force a vote tonight to adjourn the Senate until after the election

I am forcing a vote tonight to adjourn the Senate until after the November election.

The GOP in the middle of a national election is using an illegitimate process to jam through a Supreme Court nominee to rip away health care from millions.

Democrats are fighting to stop it.


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Schumer will force a vote tonight to adjourn the Senate until after the election (Original Post) DesertRat Oct 2020 OP
Good! SheltieLover Oct 2020 #1
Can he do that? BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #2
Of Course He Doesn't Have The Votes sfstaxprep Oct 2020 #3
Yeah, but it might be a way Bettie Oct 2020 #7
It Forces A Recorded Vote DallasNE Oct 2020 #22
I see. Thanks! BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #25
He can do it, but I doubt he'll have the votes. nt DesertRat Oct 2020 #5
Moral victory often goes to the minority. jaxexpat Oct 2020 #23
Good! Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #4
FYI Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #11
Good luck, Chuck...sure hope it works! Totally Tunsie Oct 2020 #6
I appreciate his effort but DesertRat Oct 2020 #10
there won't be a COVID relief bill SoCalNative Oct 2020 #12
That won't stop the lying rethugs from blaming it on us flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #17
Tell them once they come up with an acceptable bill that the house has already passed Sucha NastyWoman Oct 2020 #29
I predict there won't be a Covid relief bill James48 Oct 2020 #26
Not really much of a solution. onenote Oct 2020 #8
The only thing that I can see would be wnylib Oct 2020 #14
+ 1 nt pazzyanne Oct 2020 #24
Re: Point 3, recess appointment would only be until end of Senate session flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #19
Nope. Theoretically she could be in office until January 2022 (end of "next" session). onenote Oct 2020 #20
I thought that the newly elected senators are sworn in on 1/3/2021? n/t aggiesal Oct 2020 #28
The Arizona Senate race is a special election to finish McCain's term. DesertRat Oct 2020 #31
Kelly being sworn in won't stop Barrett's confirmation onenote Oct 2020 #36
Good! Stall any way you can! Hekate Oct 2020 #9
Another sure loser move. Hoyt Oct 2020 #13
Is there a winner move for Senate Dems to make? n/t Mister Ed Oct 2020 #15
Nope, but why fail at shutting down Senate too? Hoyt Oct 2020 #16
Dunno. I keep hoping he knows more about the Senate than I do. Mister Ed Oct 2020 #21
There is literally nothing we can do. PTWB Oct 2020 #33
McConnell killed the Covid bill bigtree Oct 2020 #18
I wonder how many other things he can force a vote on? NotASurfer Oct 2020 #27
Whether he gets it done or not, AT LEAST he tried. I'll give him props for that. Vivienne235729 Oct 2020 #30
Don't talk about, pull the fucking trigger and see.. Hotler Oct 2020 #32
Kick mcar Oct 2020 #34
Not successful Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2020 #35
I've already voted straight Dem, but what good did this do us? Hoyt Oct 2020 #37
Why are the democrats not using a filibuster? Why are they not boycotting? BComplex Oct 2020 #38

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
2. Can he do that?
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 06:26 PM
Oct 2020

Does he have the votes? Does he need votes or is this something he can do alone? Why didn't he do this earlier?

Bettie

(16,120 posts)
7. Yeah, but it might be a way
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 06:42 PM
Oct 2020

for a few of them who are in...tenuous positions to kick the can down the road until after the election.

Yeah, that's probably a futile hope, but I'll hold on to it for a moment.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
22. It Forces A Recorded Vote
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:42 PM
Oct 2020

Last edited Mon Oct 19, 2020, 10:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Susan Collins is a likely yes vote. Need 3 more. And the way Trump is tanking and possibly taking others down with them, who knows what might happen. Aren't most of the Senators back home, many campaigning for re-election. Having to go back to D.C. cramps their campaigning so even if it is not successful, as I suspect, it serves a useful purpose.

The Senate has now taken a vote. "Republicans in a 48-42 vote pigeonholed Schumer's request."

If this was a party line vote there were 5 Republicans and 5 Democrats not voting. Since there are only 47 Democrats it would not have matter if they all voted because it would still have failed 48-47. The 5 Republicans not voting were most likely those in tough re-election battles, like Collins, Tillis and Gardner.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
6. Good luck, Chuck...sure hope it works!
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 06:35 PM
Oct 2020

Sounds like this would be a great time for the Senate to take a little vacation!

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
17. That won't stop the lying rethugs from blaming it on us
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:09 PM
Oct 2020

...which actually might give them something of an incentive to vote to adjourn. The jig is up for Hair Presidente and they all know it.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,749 posts)
29. Tell them once they come up with an acceptable bill that the house has already passed
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 09:09 PM
Oct 2020

Then the Senate can come back in session

James48

(4,438 posts)
26. I predict there won't be a Covid relief bill
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:55 PM
Oct 2020

Until there is a new President in office.

The ONLY motivator the President has now is to have something to bribe people before voting.

That’s not going to happen, and once he loses, he’s going to be throwing a tantrum nonstop until he’s physically removed in January. He will refuse to sign ANYTHING after the election. In fact, he may even try and make a run for it to Russia, and get Pence to give him a pardon.

Do not expect ANYTHING from Trump that doesn’t directly help Trump personally.

onenote

(42,748 posts)
8. Not really much of a solution.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 07:06 PM
Oct 2020

Even assuming Schumer has the votes to adjourn the Senate -- and he almost certainly does not -- I'm not sure why this is a good idea.

First, it would guarantee that there can be no COVID relief bill before the election, which isn't a good look
Second, when the Senate reconvened after election day, McConnell would bring the nomination to the floor and it will pass.
Third, even before the Senate reconvened, Trump could put Barrett on the court immediately via a recess appointment.

wnylib

(21,575 posts)
14. The only thing that I can see would be
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:03 PM
Oct 2020

accomplished is to put all the Senators' votes on record so people can see which ones want to confirm Barrett before the election. The ones whose seats are up for a vote will risk alienating their constituents if they are perceived as pushing through a justice who will remove health care.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
19. Re: Point 3, recess appointment would only be until end of Senate session
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:19 PM
Oct 2020

If tRump loses, he'll still be in office for the 2021 Senate that's sworn in on 1/3/21, but it's looking like Democrats will have the majority.

We can then pull a "McConnell" and not allow a vote until Biden takes office.

onenote

(42,748 posts)
20. Nope. Theoretically she could be in office until January 2022 (end of "next" session).
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:28 PM
Oct 2020

Last edited Mon Oct 19, 2020, 10:36 PM - Edit history (1)



Article II, Section 2, Clause 3, commonly known as the Recess Appointment Clause, provides that "The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."

Of course, if Biden is elected and the Democrats take the Senate, Biden could immediately nominate someone and as soon as they get confirmed they would replace Barrett. If Trump is reelected and the Repubs hold the Senate, she'd be confirmed. Interesting scenario: Trump reelected and Democrats hold the Senate and refuse to confirm her.

But, again, even under Schumer's proposal the Senate wouldn't be adjourned until January 3, so the republican senate would confirm her as soon as they reconvened.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
31. The Arizona Senate race is a special election to finish McCain's term.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 09:44 PM
Oct 2020

If Mark Kelly defeats Trump sycophant Martha McSally, he could be sworn-in in November

onenote

(42,748 posts)
36. Kelly being sworn in won't stop Barrett's confirmation
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 11:03 PM
Oct 2020

Kelly being sworn in would leave the republicans with a the 52-48 majority in the senate. If either Collins or Murkowski abstain rather than vote no on Barrett, the nomination is approved. And even if they both vote no, Pence would be the tie breaker.

Mister Ed

(5,943 posts)
21. Dunno. I keep hoping he knows more about the Senate than I do.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:34 PM
Oct 2020

Probably does, but it wouldn't take much.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
33. There is literally nothing we can do.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 10:26 PM
Oct 2020

Either McConnell has 51 votes or he doesn’t. Anyone telling you we have “arrows in the quiver” is blowing smoke. Our recourse is to expand the Supreme Court or wait until Republican appointees die / retire and hope we have a Democratic president and senate at that time.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
18. McConnell killed the Covid bill
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:17 PM
Oct 2020

...Muchin, Speaker Pelosi, even Trump was talking more money this morning, but McConnell said no.

NotASurfer

(2,153 posts)
27. I wonder how many other things he can force a vote on?
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:58 PM
Oct 2020

What's the tolerance level for chaos in the Senate these days?

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,170 posts)
35. Not successful
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 10:46 PM
Oct 2020

Schumer moved to adjourn the Senate until Nov. 9, with the caveat that if a coronavirus relief deal was reached by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin that they would return to vote.

"This is the most rushed, most partisan, least legitimate Supreme Court nomination process in our nation's history ... and it should not proceed," Schumer said.

But Republicans in a 48-42 vote pigeonholed Schumer's request. The Senate is expected to come back into session on Tuesday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-blocks-schumer-effort-to-adjourn-senate-until-after-election/ar-BB1abMFI?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=DELLDHP

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
37. I've already voted straight Dem, but what good did this do us?
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:11 AM
Oct 2020

I know you are just reporting what happened.

BComplex

(8,060 posts)
38. Why are the democrats not using a filibuster? Why are they not boycotting?
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:51 PM
Oct 2020

There are things they CAN do to stop this. Why aren't they doing them?

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