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Miami Police Officer Wears Trump Mask To Polling Location (Original Post) FelineOverlord Oct 2020 OP
He'll probably get suspended. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #1
I'll believe it when I see it. nt. Mariana Oct 2020 #11
Nah, this one's a little too remarkably stupid to ignore. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #19
Yeah, he'll be "disciplined". Mariana Oct 2020 #21
Arrogant piece of shit should know better-- this is the sort of electioneering he is paid to stop. TreasonousBastard Oct 2020 #2
+10000000 Nevilledog Oct 2020 #14
He knew better, and he decided to break the law anyway. nt. Mariana Oct 2020 #22
👆👆👆 crickets Oct 2020 #28
He doesn't know better. The cult mentality overrides any normal thinking he has. Like auto pilot in demosincebirth Oct 2020 #48
His knowledge is irrelevant, plimsoll Oct 2020 #68
yep Demovictory9 Oct 2020 #80
The overwhelming majority of Police aren't just White Trash. olegramps Oct 2020 #56
Earth to City of Miami: dalton99a Oct 2020 #3
"No more bullshit"? PatSeg Oct 2020 #23
His mask should say "More Bullshit Please", given he's a Magat. Bubs55 Oct 2020 #45
All Dumpy boy has peddled is bullshit. Stupid nazi cop. Get rid of him. judesedit Oct 2020 #46
Which word has you stumped, Officer? gratuitous Oct 2020 #4
Fired, not suspended. Lars39 Oct 2020 #5
Miami Police Officer Wears Trump Mask To Polling Location FelineOverlord Oct 2020 #6
Uniformed Miami cop spotted wearing pro-Trump mask near voting site will be disciplined Cha Oct 2020 #78
+1 dalton99a Oct 2020 #82
The clown obviously doesn't know the law. lpbk2713 Oct 2020 #7
He knows the law. He also knows it doesn't apply to him. Mariana Oct 2020 #15
You forget this is Florida. Wearing campaign logo apparel to vote is not prohibited. onenote Oct 2020 #53
He a Trump cultist. He know the law. The laws just don't apply to him and his kind. I suspect..... usaf-vet Oct 2020 #58
He's probably a cop who thinks he makes the rules... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #8
Orders of magnitude worse... dchill Oct 2020 #9
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Oct 2020 #10
Miami Police Officer Wears Trump Mask To Polling Location FelineOverlord Oct 2020 #12
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Oct 2020 #32
a gun on an officer is one thing, but a gun on a officer willing to violate the rules is another. unblock Oct 2020 #13
Slight correction: Mariana Oct 2020 #17
yes, even more so. unblock Oct 2020 #18
Cannot display campaign paraphernalia at a polling place Takket Oct 2020 #16
yes, but it would be a minor incident if it were an ordinary person unblock Oct 2020 #20
Actually, in Florida you can. onenote Oct 2020 #55
And, Irony Is Dead ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #24
Not to mention the message TwilightZone Oct 2020 #25
Thought Of That, Too ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #39
Its actually rather ambiguous? No more BS from trump BSdetect Oct 2020 #26
Wonder if he wears that mask when he shows up to calls Bettie Oct 2020 #27
It makes me wonder how often he stops someone for driving while black? lpbk2713 Oct 2020 #35
Probably as often as he can Bettie Oct 2020 #74
It's his Halloween costume? mjvpi Oct 2020 #29
Of course the mask is illegal, but are guns allowed? panader0 Oct 2020 #30
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Oct 2020 #31
Can you decipher your post ornotna Oct 2020 #72
So, I guess that's MYOB non-reply ornotna Oct 2020 #84
He needs some time off Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #33
IF nothing is done, THIS bluestarone Oct 2020 #34
"NO MORE BULLSHIT" LiberalLovinLug Oct 2020 #36
U be da dumbass for Donald GeorgeGist Oct 2020 #37
He should be immediately fired Dreampuff Oct 2020 #38
He Also BROKE THE LAW! ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #40
It is not illegal to wear campaign logo attire to a polling place in Florida. onenote Oct 2020 #57
Did Not Know That! ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #65
It's Florida -- only one of a handful of states that allow campaign insignia at polling places. onenote Oct 2020 #69
Here In Illinois... ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #75
Miami Herald Article, October 20, 2020 11:56 AM EDT: Towlie Oct 2020 #41
They quit hiring thugs Cryptoad Oct 2020 #42
Not a good look & not a smart move... Illumination Oct 2020 #43
Miami Police Officer Wears Trump Mask To Polling Location FelineOverlord Oct 2020 #44
If I were an honest Miami cop, this is where I would draw the line, and my weapon DFW Oct 2020 #59
"The police department has not stated whether or not the officer will face any discipline." dalton99a Oct 2020 #47
Fire this fucker AND bluestarone Oct 2020 #54
Here's an Update.. Post #78.. link.. Cha Oct 2020 #79
assrocket BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2020 #49
He is 100% breakin FL law. lark Oct 2020 #50
which florida law? onenote Oct 2020 #60
FL law disallows any electioneering, clothing, tags, anything - within 100 ft of a polling place. lark Oct 2020 #62
Do you have a cite. Because this Broward County website says otherwise. onenote Oct 2020 #70
No, that was from my poll monitor training in 2018. lark Oct 2020 #83
Call the FBI James48 Oct 2020 #51
What's so wrong about wanting to MAGA? /sarcasm budkin Oct 2020 #52
Shouldn't he just wear a swastika armband? Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #61
Response by the Mayor brooklynite Oct 2020 #63
good rockfordfile Oct 2020 #73
Glad to see this response. However, not sure I believe it will happen. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2020 #76
It's actually a crime matt819 Oct 2020 #64
what a frikkin' idiot RussBLib Oct 2020 #66
gEEZE....This officer should have been told to remove it yuiyoshida Oct 2020 #67
In Florida, unlike most places, it is not illegal to wear campaign logo attire onenote Oct 2020 #71
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2020 #77
MPD ALERT Cha Oct 2020 #81

TwilightZone

(25,418 posts)
19. Nah, this one's a little too remarkably stupid to ignore.
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:39 PM
Oct 2020

The backlash has already started and the police chief has chimed in about multiple violations of department policy. This was monumentally dumb and I suspect he's going to pay for it with a suspension. He really should be fired, but that's unlikely.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
21. Yeah, he'll be "disciplined".
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:42 PM
Oct 2020

"No donut for you today. Now, don't do that again."

I hope you're right and it's more serious than that.

demosincebirth

(12,529 posts)
48. He doesn't know better. The cult mentality overrides any normal thinking he has. Like auto pilot in
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:09 PM
Oct 2020

a airliner...it over rides everything.

plimsoll

(1,666 posts)
68. His knowledge is irrelevant,
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:52 PM
Oct 2020

His belief that there will be no consequences is of more importance. 4 years+ of tacit support for illegal behavior and blanket support for any pro trump actions by the police say he isn’t wrong in that belief.

PatSeg

(47,213 posts)
23. "No more bullshit"?
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:43 PM
Oct 2020

Well, that's a nice message for a police officer. I have five year old grandsons who can read pretty much everything and I expect better from a public servant. Its bad enough that I can never have the news on when they're here because we have a president who thinks it is alright to swear on national television.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Which word has you stumped, Officer?
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:19 PM
Oct 2020

"No" or "electioneering"? Maybe a 30 day suspension without pay is in order, so you can do some research?

Cha

(296,701 posts)
78. Uniformed Miami cop spotted wearing pro-Trump mask near voting site will be disciplined
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:42 AM
Oct 2020
The person who happened to spot Ubeda was the chairman of the Miami-Dade Democratic party, Steve Simeonidis.

Simeonidis, an attorney who works downtown, said he was passing through Government Center when he spotted Ubeda “well within” the 150-foot barrier that police and campaigners are not permitted under state statute during an election if they are endorsing a candidate. He photographed the officer and tweeted about the encounter.

“He may have been going to vote. But he was in full uniform with the mask and a gun. That’s voter intimidation,” Simeonidis said.

Simeonidis said Ubeda “laughed it off” after he was questioned about the mask.

Deputy Police Chief Ron Papier said he spoke with Chief Jorge Colina and that the “appropriate disciplinary action” will be taken against Ubeda

Yuck it up, police Lawbreaker.

TY for the tweet!

lpbk2713

(42,734 posts)
7. The clown obviously doesn't know the law.
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:24 PM
Oct 2020



NO advertising material endorsing candidates is allowed on or near the premises.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
15. He knows the law. He also knows it doesn't apply to him.
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:34 PM
Oct 2020

He's supposedly going to be "disciplined" by the department, which probably just means he'll be told not to do that again.

onenote

(42,509 posts)
53. You forget this is Florida. Wearing campaign logo apparel to vote is not prohibited.
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:16 PM
Oct 2020

Now, this cop violated Police Department policy and should be punished. But he did not violate any law against electioneering at a polling place.

https://www.browardsoe.org/Voter-Information/Election-Myths-vs-Facts

Whether it constitutes voter intimidation (and arguably it does) is a separate question.

usaf-vet

(6,161 posts)
58. He a Trump cultist. He know the law. The laws just don't apply to him and his kind. I suspect.....
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:19 PM
Oct 2020

.....if you had a BIDEN bumper sticker you would be pulled over for swerving in the lane. Failing to use proper signals. Possible DUI. Required to take a field sobriety test. All the things that would be your word against his.

Ticketed, fined, and a court date.

Hopefully not BLACK and face being shot.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
8. He's probably a cop who thinks he makes the rules...
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:25 PM
Oct 2020

... but doesn't need to follow them.

I'd like to see him fired! I wouldn't want any cop with that kind of personality.

unblock

(52,095 posts)
13. a gun on an officer is one thing, but a gun on a officer willing to violate the rules is another.
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:32 PM
Oct 2020

voter intimidation indeed.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
17. Slight correction:
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:36 PM
Oct 2020

A gun on an officer is one thing, but a gun on a officer willing to break the law is another.

unblock

(52,095 posts)
20. yes, but it would be a minor incident if it were an ordinary person
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:42 PM
Oct 2020

people try to do that, or don't realize it's illegal and do it, all the time. poll workers tell people they have to cover up their political t-shirt or take their hat off. it happens everywhere, every election.

but it's orders of magnitude worse when it's a police officer (agent of the government) and when he's carrying a gun.

very different situation than when a civilian does it, or even if this same guy had done it in plain clothes and off duty and not carrying a gun.

onenote

(42,509 posts)
55. Actually, in Florida you can.
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:17 PM
Oct 2020
https://www.browardsoe.org/Voter-Information/Election-Myths-vs-Facts

But he did violate Police Department policy and should be punished.

And whether it constitutes voter intimidation (and arguably it does) is a separate question.

ProfessorGAC

(64,801 posts)
24. And, Irony Is Dead
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:43 PM
Oct 2020

There is a mask to prevent the "no big deal" disease that "masks do not help", supporting the guy who said those things. And, this tool is wearing one!

TwilightZone

(25,418 posts)
25. Not to mention the message
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:51 PM
Oct 2020

Trump is the one generating the bullshit. More projection.

He's probably wearing it because the department requires him to. He's thumbing his nose at his own department, which isn't going to go over well.

Bettie

(16,053 posts)
27. Wonder if he wears that mask when he shows up to calls
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 12:55 PM
Oct 2020

just to ensure that no one makes the mistake of thinking he is there to help.

Bettie

(16,053 posts)
74. Probably as often as he can
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:30 PM
Oct 2020

do it. It's probably the highlight of his day when he can hassle a black or brown person.

Hey, remember when one could reasonably believe that there were more good cops than bad ones?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
30. Of course the mask is illegal, but are guns allowed?
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 01:13 PM
Oct 2020

I don't have one, but I have a real nice Louisville Slugger.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
36. "NO MORE BULLSHIT"
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 01:24 PM
Oct 2020

really?
The guy you support has told over 25,000 verifiable lies in 4 years. He lies as much as he breathes.

And then lets discuss WHERE you put this message. On a fucking mask! The kind he scoffs at. The kind he encouraged Americans NOT to wear because it was all a Democratic hoax. And has caused untold deaths because of that dereliction of duty. The irony is over the top.

The biggest problem we will have with ex-Trumpers after the election is realizing that there are so many out there who can leap to opinions that based on the OPPOSITE of reality. They will be just waiting for the next, smarter, Trump.

Dreampuff

(778 posts)
38. He should be immediately fired
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 01:35 PM
Oct 2020

If he is willing to do something this ignorant, I'm scared of what he will do out on the street.

I've only recently noticed the Maga hats that include that phrase. I take it to mean people want no more BS about the pandemic since most of the people who seem to have them as bumper stickers or shirts, think this whole pandemic is a hoax in order to prevent Trump from having his big riots and getting the Adoration he feels he deserves.

ProfessorGAC

(64,801 posts)
40. He Also BROKE THE LAW!
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 01:43 PM
Oct 2020

It is illegal to electioneer at a voting place.
So, his idiotic statement also involved breaking the law. By a cop!

onenote

(42,509 posts)
57. It is not illegal to wear campaign logo attire to a polling place in Florida.
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:18 PM
Oct 2020
https://www.browardsoe.org/Voter-Information/Election-Myths-vs-Facts

He violated Police Department policy and should be punished. He did not violate any electioneering law.
And whether it constitutes voter intimidation (and arguably it does) is a separate question.

ProfessorGAC

(64,801 posts)
65. Did Not Know That!
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:44 PM
Oct 2020

It's illegal here. I just saw the warnings on a sign yesterday when we went to vote.
But, someone above posted a federal statute. He may be in violation of federal law, if not Florida law.

ProfessorGAC

(64,801 posts)
75. Here In Illinois...
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:41 PM
Oct 2020

...that sign said that willful repeat offenses are a felony.
Once must be a misdemeanor, but the sign said repeat, willful violations.
I didn't know that before yesterday. But, I was leaning on the wall right across from the sign, so I read the whole thing.
They must be pretty serious about it here.

Towlie

(5,318 posts)
41. Miami Herald Article, October 20, 2020 11:56 AM EDT:
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 01:44 PM
Oct 2020
Uniformed Miami cop spotted wearing pro-Trump mask near voting site will be disciplined

A uniformed Miami police officer was photographed sporting a protective mask with a pro-Trump slogan at a voting site in Government Center Tuesday morning.

The backlash from his department was swift. Miami’s police chief, shown the photo posted on social media, said Officer Daniel Ubeda would be disciplined, though exactly how had not been determined.

Whether Ubeda was working or on his way to vote himself wasn’t immediately clear. But this was: His timing was particularly bad. The person who saw and photographed him was Steve Simeonidis, chairman of the Miami-Dade Democratic party.

Simeonidis, an attorney who works downtown, said he was passing through Government Center when he spotted Ubeda “well within” the 150-foot barrier that police and non-voters are not permitted under state statute during an election.

“He may have been going to vote. But he was in full uniform with the mask and a gun. That’s voter intimidation,” Simeonidis said.

FelineOverlord

(3,571 posts)
44. Miami Police Officer Wears Trump Mask To Polling Location
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 01:52 PM
Oct 2020

"Officer Ubeda" is now trending at #16 on Twitter.

Rick Wilson from The Lincoln Project is now interested in him:


DFW

(54,267 posts)
59. If I were an honest Miami cop, this is where I would draw the line, and my weapon
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:21 PM
Oct 2020

The moment Ubeda crossed the 150 foot perimeter, he is no longer a cop on duty, but an armed thug intent on intimidation. He should be confronted by armed law enforcement as such. If he doesn't back off immediately, he should be taken down by any means necessary. When he crosses that perimeter, he is no longer law enforcement, but a law-breaker.

dalton99a

(81,372 posts)
47. "The police department has not stated whether or not the officer will face any discipline."
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:09 PM
Oct 2020
In a statement, City of Miami Police said they were aware of the photograph, calling the officer's behavior unacceptable.

"This behavior is unacceptable, a violation of departmental policy, and is being addressed immediately," City of Miami Police said.

The police department has not stated whether or not the officer will face any discipline.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/city-of-miami-officer-photographed-wearing-trump-mask-inside-polling-location/2309350/

lark

(23,058 posts)
50. He is 100% breakin FL law.
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:12 PM
Oct 2020

Will anyone do anything about it or do we just accept that all drumpf supporters are criminals and above the law?

onenote

(42,509 posts)
60. which florida law?
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:23 PM
Oct 2020

He definitely violated Police Department policy. But Florida doesn't prohibit voters from wearing campaign logo attire at a polling location.

lark

(23,058 posts)
62. FL law disallows any electioneering, clothing, tags, anything - within 100 ft of a polling place.
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:31 PM
Oct 2020

Wearing that drumpf mask within 100 ft of a polling place is a crime - and he was actually inside the polling place - fire him!

lark

(23,058 posts)
83. No, that was from my poll monitor training in 2018.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:54 AM
Oct 2020

Guess it's possible things have changed but that's what was told to us and was written in the training materials as well.

James48

(4,424 posts)
51. Call the FBI
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:13 PM
Oct 2020

Ask them to come.
And report him - a violation of 18 USC 594, and 595.



18 U.S. Code § 594. Intimidation of voters

(General intimidation statute)

And

§595. Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
This section shall not prohibit or make unlawful any act by any officer or employee of any educational or research institution, establishment, agency, or system which is supported in whole or in part by any state or political subdivision thereof, or by the District of Columbia or by any Territory or Possession of the United States; or by any recognized religious, philanthropic or cultural organization.


(In short, simply wearing that can be a violation as a State employee attempting to influence the election, which makes the officer guilty of a federal offense. Call the FBI and they should either call his department and get it fixed immediately, or they will go investigate. I’m serious- call the FBI).

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
76. Glad to see this response. However, not sure I believe it will happen.
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:45 PM
Oct 2020

When the specific disciplinary measures are taken and reported to the public, we'll see how seriously they take this. My guess is, Not very.

yuiyoshida

(41,817 posts)
67. gEEZE....This officer should have been told to remove it
Tue Oct 20, 2020, 02:46 PM
Oct 2020

Isn't it Illegal to have stuff like that in Voting Place?? Asshole.

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