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(90,538 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Im sure that when that impeachment is completed, they can find someone else equally deserving of the same from the Trump cabinet and keep the senators entertained for awhile.
marie999
(3,334 posts)If the House tries to impeach him without testimony it will backfire on them so while they are taking testimony the Senate is confirming her. And what difference does it make whether they confirm before the election or in the 21/2 months left in trumps presidency after the election?
Hekate
(90,538 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,034 posts)Boilerplate impeachment. Lots of scum to remove in 2021. Better get started.
OnDoutside
(19,945 posts)energy to the RW.
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)Its viewed as being a 'sore loser".
And once you start, the next time the GOP has the majority they'll just add a dozen of THEIR picks. And we'll end up looking like the Star Wars court.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wait-ginsburg-seat-opposing-packing-court/story?id=73239784
OnDoutside
(19,945 posts)stoke Republicans. McConnell has the numbers, it is as simple as that. Democrats can use Barrett's confirmation as justification for a comprehensive reorganisation of the SC, to de-politicize the court. Of course they can go ahead and appoint 10 or 12 new lifetime appointments, as well as taking the sting out of McConnell's efforts with the lower courts, by saying that he lied to the American people by blocking Obama's 150 picks.
The reality is that Biden will have to do something like this anyway, because Republicans will run to the current kangaroo Supreme Court to block anything Biden brings in. To not spank the GOP for doing what they have done over the last 5 years, means that they will take what they've done as the baseline, and then will push on further. Biden will have no choice but to expand the Court (and Courts), if you want the change that Democrats have wanted. There is no alternative.
And let's remember, Republicans have PACKED the court already.
usaf-vet
(6,161 posts)I'm tired of the repugs changing rules in the middle of the game.
The next time they gain power they will appoint more right-wing nut jobs to the court. Thomas is reportedly not well and could retire at any point after the election. If tRump wins they will appoint another young judge to keep the 6-3 unbalanced court.
The Dems better pay attention to those of us you have gone all out to get rid of tRump. My wife and I donated money we could not afford. We voted early. We have talked to independent undecided voters and know we have changed minds.
The repugs have nearly self-destructed with tRump. Let's first finish that job.
THEN TAKE POWER AND USE IT.
DO NOT slap your life long committed supporter in the face. That will give the right the gift they will need to regain power.
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)They didnt do it.
I'm looking forward. I believe Joe will win. But if the Senate gets rid of the filibuster, adds judges etc, then 2022 might be a drawback. Every time someone wins they think they've got a mandate. And the majority of people dont like huge changes like this. So then they vote the other way. We've seen this show before.
Get trump out.
Thats all that matters
Statistical
(19,264 posts)they were overwhelmingly against blocking Garland.
Guess what Mitch did both? Yeah voters didn't like it but it got him 2 supreme court justices and hundreds of federal judges.
If the Republicans try to re-expand the court then we reexpanding it whatever they did + 1. The Democrats are more likely to control the House in the future.
If the Democrats get power and don't use it then they have given up on this country. When the people give you power you use it. The Republicans sure as hell did and will again.
no_hypocrisy
(46,019 posts)then yeah, the House would have no choice but to impeach the USAG.
brooklynite
(94,325 posts)jaxexpat
(6,798 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,318 posts)Does it matter if she's confirmed before election day, or shortly after election day? Either way, we're stuck with her for decades.
dware
(12,249 posts)Moscow Mitch doesn't have to stop all Senate business for a trial in the Senate, he can set a date for it, or just table it until the vote is done.
BainsBane
(53,012 posts)This could stop the confirmation, and it would probably hurt Biden's electoral chances. That the Senate would have to take up conviction hearings (assuming it gets through the House, which is doubtful), does not preclude them confirming Barrett, which I guarantee you is McConnell's first priority.
The time to stop this confirmation was in 2016 when some worked assiduously to defeat Clinton in the GE.
onenote
(42,543 posts)It's October 21. These folks want to impeach Barr without any investigation, hearings, debate in the House -- without any due process. Biden cannot support that.
Retrograde
(10,128 posts)1) The House and the Senate are independent bodies
2) The House initiates impeachment. The Senate has nothing to do with impeachment until the Speaker of the House delivers the articles of impeachment to them
3) The Senate votes to confirm or deny presidential appointees, not the House
4) The Attorney General has nothing to do with the confirmation process officially. He can resign today and the confirmation vote could still be held.
5) Even if would make any difference, until the AG is removed by a 2/3 vote of the Senate he's still the AG: President Clinton kept working throughout his impeachment process
This is grasping at straws that aren't there. It's as effective as praying that McConnell will suddenly get struck by lightening or develop a sense of patriotism. Put your efforts into flipping the Senate while there's a chance.