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NRaleighLiberal

(61,696 posts)
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:06 AM Oct 2020

good read, NYT "I Spoke to a Scholar of Conspiracy Theories and I'm Scared for Us"

The big lesson of 2020 is that everything keeps getting more dishonest.

by Farhad Manjoo

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/21/opinion/q-anon-conspiracy.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

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This week, Donovan’s team published “The Media Manipulation Casebook,” a searchable online database of their research. It makes for grim reading — an accounting of the many failures of journalists, media companies, tech companies, policymakers, law enforcement officials and the national security establishment to anticipate and counteract the liars who seek to dupe us. Armed with these investigations, Donovan hopes we can all do better.

I hope she’s right. But studying her work also got me wondering whether we’re too late. Many Americans have become so deeply distrustful of one another that whatever happens on Nov. 3, they may refuse to accept the outcome. Every day I grow more fearful that the number of those Americans will be large enough to imperil our nation’s capacity to function as a cohesive society.

“I’m worried about political violence,” Donovan told me. America is heavily armed, and from Portland to Kenosha to the Michigan governor’s mansion, we have seen young men radicalized and organized online beginning to take the law into their own hands. Donovan told me she fears that “people who are armed are going to become dangerous, because they see no other way out.”

Media manipulation is a fairly novel area of research. It was only when Donald Trump won the White House by hitting it big with right-wing online subcultures — and after internet-mobilized authoritarians around the world pulled similar tricks — that serious scholars began to take notice.

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This is a common theme in disinformation research: What makes digital lies so difficult to combat is not just the technology used to spread them, but also the nature of the societies they’re targeting, including their political cultures. Donovan compares QAnon to the Rev. Charles Coughlin, the priest whose radio show spread anti-Semitism in the Depression-era United States. Stopping Coughlin’s hate took a concerted effort, involving new regulations for radio broadcasters and condemnation of Coughlin by the Catholic Church.

Stopping QAnon will be harder; Coughlin was one hatemonger with a big microphone, while QAnon is a complex, decentralized, deceptive network of hate. But the principle remains: Combating the deception that has overrun public discourse should be a primary goal of our society. Otherwise, America ends in lies.

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good read, NYT "I Spoke to a Scholar of Conspiracy Theories and I'm Scared for Us" (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Oct 2020 OP
Yup. Newest Reality Oct 2020 #1
Joan Donovan and her crew are doing the Lord's work greenjar_01 Oct 2020 #2
what happens to a conspiracy theory when 15% of the country believes it? 0rganism Oct 2020 #3

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. Yup.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:11 AM
Oct 2020

Keep in mind that, when compared, the Qanon agenda and conspiracies are just rebranded, repackaged propaganda used by the Nazis. It's based on the fictitious Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

And that was probably a part of the "joke" that it started as on 4-chan. I wonder if the poster(s) thought they could get this far?

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
2. Joan Donovan and her crew are doing the Lord's work
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:13 AM
Oct 2020

They are smart and brave as hell. When you go after the right wing and the nuts, they come back at you hard. Some of her best researchers are still vulnerable graduate students and junior faculty. The courage of their research is really commendable.

0rganism

(25,524 posts)
3. what happens to a conspiracy theory when 15% of the country believes it?
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:27 AM
Oct 2020

heard this morning on CNN - half of Trump's supporters are Q-fools
Trump has support from 90% of the Republican party which includes upwards of 30% of the population, last i checked
so that's 13-15%, maybe more when you toss in some randos who might somehow buy the Q stuff without supporting Trump

they walk among us

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