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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden should directly address this made up Hunter story
Kerry made the mistake of ignoring the swiftboaters and it cost him dearly. HRC did not address the source of the leaked emails. Or if she did, I don't remember.
Joe should go address the muck once and for all.
Nothing but a defiant rebuttal will work. Silence is not doing it, just encouraging the Q's more
BlueTsunami2018
(3,490 posts)Im sure the Orange Anus will bring it up at the debate. Joe can address it then.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)This would be like demanding Obama address the limo story from 2008 where he purportedly received oral from a man while doing coke.
This story isn't on anyone's radar. I suspect it'll be brought up in the debate, but only in passing and Biden should dismiss it and move on.
Kingofalldems
(38,449 posts)What the hell are you talking about?
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)If you're inclined to care, you're already voting for Trump. Anything but a simple quick denial of any wrongdoing elevates it--right now Rudy Giuliani is setting himself on fire, there's no way the chain of custody of the laptop evidence hasn't been compromised so that anything could have been inserted, changed, etc.--why do anything but deny it? Also, Hunter Biden isn't running for office.
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)Apples and oranges. Im comfortable with the Biden campaigns tactical approach to this (non) issue. Reality is voters dont seem to give a fuck.
karynnj
(59,501 posts)He put his entire Navy record, received from the Navy, on his website - with the exclusion of medical records, which he allowed legitimate media to see. He also did include an answer - that the media was alerted to - when he spoke to the Firefighters. He essentially referred to the NAVY record, which he said was true 30 years before and it still was. The Vietnam era Secretary of the Navy, Republican John Warner, backed Kerry on his war record. They ignored that the SBVT included many people who NEVER severed with Kerry. They ignored that Kerry had the support of all but 1 person who had been on any of his swiftboats. In addition, Kerry had the support of the Republican marine (then law officer) he saved in Vietnam.
In addition, several claims of the SBVT were proven lies - they just moved on to the next set of accusations. Even though they were caught in lies - sometimes because they were NEVER in the same place and same time as Kerry - they just moved onto the next set of accusations. The problem was the cable media continued to give them coverage - often more time than they gave Kerry and the men actually on his boat, all but one of whom were extremely loyal to Kerry.
DU or the Kerry blog actually led me to read his online fitness reports. Someone referred to them to definitively answer what color his eyes are - hazel. That was less interesting then reading what was written in the late 1960s. His superiors describe an intelligent, creative, mature officer who many noted earned intense loyalty from those reporting to him. One thing I thought then, was that as those records were there - and were written before politics entered, someone in the media should have used them to define who 25 year old Kerry was. The closest thing to that was Doug Brinkley's book, but in the heat of 2004, a short article or cable analysis could really have helped.
As it was the PRINT media was not bad -- the ratings chasing cable media was not helpful.
honest.abe
(8,677 posts)The only thing I would say its nonsense.
bigtree
(85,986 posts)...most everyone has seen through this ploy by now.
Trump was impeached for engaging in this.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Trump is fake-tough guy to the marrow. He is a classic bully and like all bullies he will collapse the second he is punched in the mouth.
Walk over towards him, tell him bluntly that made-up attacks on family is out of bounds and tell him that if he does it again, he's getting knocked the fuck out. Then feint a blow towards Trump and watch him flinch before the world. Trump is a complete coward. Make him show his ass to the world and he is finished for good.
Clearly fogged in
(1,896 posts)I can't place the venue or time, maybe a campaign rally before the 2016. Someone jumped on the platform and rushed into the wind, so to speak. Trump spun and cowered, his enforcers were also taken by surprise and reacted clumsily. Maybe someone remembers the details.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)I still think a man standing in front of him and calling him out would be more effective...
Clearly fogged in
(1,896 posts)At the end trump basically says it was all a set up. Either way, no one cares.
Check out this youtube clip with more reporting on his campaign. It's incredible in that he has learned nothing of tact, diplomacy, or leadership since.
https://m.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Furthermore, Hunter is an adult and can address the story about him if he wants to.
Hunter would know if he took his laptop to fix some guy in Delaware.
ScratchCat
(1,981 posts)About this story. Even though most of the media is not taking it seriously, Hunter Biden simply stating "I never took a laptop to a repair shop in Delaware" kills the story on the rest of the media that is covering it. Joe's camp saying "we checked our records and Joe never attended any such meeting" should have included a statement from Hunter about never going to a Delaware repair shop with a laptop. Its almost like Joe was hedging, and I don't know why(the stuff is clearly fake). A friend of mine opined that maybe the emails are partially real and likely edited, but they illegally acquired them and then invented the laptop story as a cover for how they got them.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)repair? Although, its totally unbelievable that someone who lives in California would leave his laptop in Delaware to be repaired or whatever
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)None of them are voting for Biden anyway and the story is not gaining any traction outside the foxnews Q-verse. There's no reason to address the nonsense that just will force mainstream media to cover it. Trump is frustrated because they are mostly ignoring the bullshit, why give it traction? The difference between this and the bullshit email story is that mainstream sources couldn't shut up about that one.
Mad Lib
(86 posts)Biden should use it as an opportunity discuss Trump's fetish for Russian disinformation and election interference. Just trace the source of all these bogus accusations. As I believe Nancy said, "all roads lead back to Putin." Pound that thought right through all the BS.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)I actually think that Biden's story is a Chinese operation, not Russian.
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Say that children should not be part of any administration and they then hammer Ivankas china deals, Jareds failure to pass a security clearance and beavis and butthead being laughing stocks.
But I agree that outside a response in the debate it doesnt deserve a response.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)That worked well last time, so I'm good if he doesn't again, but I don't think he needs to waste his time on what is just a nonsensical accusation.
BlueInPhilly
(870 posts)We all know it's from the 2016 playbook almost to the date of release and it's utter BS. But then we also experienced Comey's October surprise. If Barr were to announce that he's investigating the Bidens, it would be totally specious. But remember how much it cost us. We all knew it was bogus, but it totally contributed to HRC's loss.
PTSD from 2016.
I hope his team has a ready point-by-point rebuttal, complete with receipts.
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)hem and hall over it.
dware
(12,363 posts)Why give any credence to this Russian dis-information?
The Biden campaign knows what they're doing.
BlueInPhilly
(870 posts)That they knew what they were doing. They did not.
dware
(12,363 posts)it's Biden/Harris, and I fully trust them to have looked at the whole picture and concluded that giving any credence to obvious Russian interference would be foolish.
Turin_C3PO
(13,964 posts)It's a different issue. No one outside of right wing echo chambers is treating this as a real issue.
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)a well-regarded government figure in the Obama administration. Worlds of credibility and relevance away from Hunter Biden emails.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)I mean Fox News didn't even want the story because it is a dead fish.
clutterbox1830
(395 posts)No other networks are really covering it since they know it is false.
It will only bring more attention to it and force other networks to debate on it.
Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)I think Joe should have a statement ready, but keep focused on campaigning.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Does he need to come out every other day and say that? Should he continue to give this nonsense oxygen in hopes that it will suffocate?
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)They will say "His denial just proves that it's true". There's no cure-all strategy that will work with those idiots. These are the same people who believe that JFK, Jr. is still alive and will replace Pence as Trumps VP running mate.
budkin
(6,699 posts)It belongs in the dumpster where it came from.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,745 posts)Next Joe will have to deny he beats his wife. Responding to their bullshit would be a never ending job.
Alhena
(3,030 posts)it has nothing to do with this campaign. I mean, it's admitted that Hunter has had a crack addiction at age 50, and crack addicts aren't known for their good judgment.
So I'm not sure whether it's true or not, but, at any rate, Hunter isn't running for anything.