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BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:27 PM Oct 2020

Biden should directly address this made up Hunter story

Kerry made the mistake of ignoring the swiftboaters and it cost him dearly. HRC did not address the source of the leaked emails. Or if she did, I don't remember.

Joe should go address the muck once and for all.

Nothing but a defiant rebuttal will work. Silence is not doing it, just encouraging the Q's more

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Biden should directly address this made up Hunter story (Original Post) BlueInPhilly Oct 2020 OP
No one cares except the idiots. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2020 #1
Joe can pull out photos. Trump has his own hunter offspring problem. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #35
no obamanut2012 Oct 2020 #2
No. This isn't getting anywhere near the traction as those other stories. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #3
He doesn't have to respond to anything from the ghoul. Kingofalldems Oct 2020 #4
I don't think so. If you're inclined to believe it, you're already voting for Trump. BusyBeingBest Oct 2020 #5
Except that Kerry was running for President and Hunter Biden isn't BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #6
Not to mention, Kerry did NOT ignore the SBVT karynnj Oct 2020 #28
No. Addressing it gives it credibility. honest.abe Oct 2020 #7
no one cares bigtree Oct 2020 #8
I have suggested elsewhere that he stand up to the bully... Moostache Oct 2020 #9
It was shown. Clearly fogged in Oct 2020 #29
This one? Moostache Oct 2020 #31
Yes, May of 16 in Ohio Clearly fogged in Oct 2020 #33
Hunter isn't running for president. LisaL Oct 2020 #10
This is the only thing that slightly bothers me ScratchCat Oct 2020 #26
Since when is it illegal to take your laptop for Rice4VP Oct 2020 #38
uhm who cares if the Q are "encouraged"? jcgoldie Oct 2020 #11
If brought up at the debate.... Mad Lib Oct 2020 #12
Well said. OnDoutside Oct 2020 #14
And Trump's Chinese bank account. LisaL Oct 2020 #18
Bring up the nepotism Midnightwalk Oct 2020 #30
I'm cool if he uses the explanation as a way to show himself as a loving parent. Bleacher Creature Oct 2020 #13
I don't know... BlueInPhilly Oct 2020 #15
I don't know what he should do, but he should have a quick, witty response to move on and not themaguffin Oct 2020 #16
No, he shouldn't. dware Oct 2020 #17
We said the same thing about the HRC campaign BlueInPhilly Oct 2020 #21
This ain't 2016, and our candidate isn't HRC, dware Oct 2020 #22
This story is getting no traction. Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #23
That concerned Hillary herself and Comey was at the time BusyBeingBest Oct 2020 #34
Provide oxygen to a non-story is foolish. Statistical Oct 2020 #19
No. This is a bogus story that only Fox News is talking about. clutterbox1830 Oct 2020 #20
FOX News is all in on this story Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #24
Seven days ago, Joe Biden denied the story as "Russian disinformation" gratuitous Oct 2020 #25
No. If it's a question from the moderator, then answer it. LakeArenal Oct 2020 #27
They will say "His denial just proves that it's true". There's no cure-all strategy... NurseJackie Oct 2020 #32
No. It's already been completely discredited. budkin Oct 2020 #36
His son is a grown man, let him address it Rice4VP Oct 2020 #37
Let them run with this nonsense. If it's not this, they will just attack with something else. Midnight Writer Oct 2020 #39
If Biden has a troubled son, which it sounds like he does Alhena Oct 2020 #40

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
1. No one cares except the idiots.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:28 PM
Oct 2020

I’m sure the Orange Anus will bring it up at the debate. Joe can address it then.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
3. No. This isn't getting anywhere near the traction as those other stories.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:30 PM
Oct 2020

This would be like demanding Obama address the limo story from 2008 where he purportedly received oral from a man while doing coke.

This story isn't on anyone's radar. I suspect it'll be brought up in the debate, but only in passing and Biden should dismiss it and move on.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
5. I don't think so. If you're inclined to believe it, you're already voting for Trump.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:31 PM
Oct 2020

If you're inclined to care, you're already voting for Trump. Anything but a simple quick denial of any wrongdoing elevates it--right now Rudy Giuliani is setting himself on fire, there's no way the chain of custody of the laptop evidence hasn't been compromised so that anything could have been inserted, changed, etc.--why do anything but deny it? Also, Hunter Biden isn't running for office.

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
6. Except that Kerry was running for President and Hunter Biden isn't
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:31 PM
Oct 2020

Apples and oranges. I’m comfortable with the Biden campaign’s tactical approach to this (non) issue. Reality is voters don’t seem to give a fuck.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
28. Not to mention, Kerry did NOT ignore the SBVT
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 01:00 PM
Oct 2020

He put his entire Navy record, received from the Navy, on his website - with the exclusion of medical records, which he allowed legitimate media to see. He also did include an answer - that the media was alerted to - when he spoke to the Firefighters. He essentially referred to the NAVY record, which he said was true 30 years before and it still was. The Vietnam era Secretary of the Navy, Republican John Warner, backed Kerry on his war record. They ignored that the SBVT included many people who NEVER severed with Kerry. They ignored that Kerry had the support of all but 1 person who had been on any of his swiftboats. In addition, Kerry had the support of the Republican marine (then law officer) he saved in Vietnam.

In addition, several claims of the SBVT were proven lies - they just moved on to the next set of accusations. Even though they were caught in lies - sometimes because they were NEVER in the same place and same time as Kerry - they just moved onto the next set of accusations. The problem was the cable media continued to give them coverage - often more time than they gave Kerry and the men actually on his boat, all but one of whom were extremely loyal to Kerry.

DU or the Kerry blog actually led me to read his online fitness reports. Someone referred to them to definitively answer what color his eyes are - hazel. That was less interesting then reading what was written in the late 1960s. His superiors describe an intelligent, creative, mature officer who many noted earned intense loyalty from those reporting to him. One thing I thought then, was that as those records were there - and were written before politics entered, someone in the media should have used them to define who 25 year old Kerry was. The closest thing to that was Doug Brinkley's book, but in the heat of 2004, a short article or cable analysis could really have helped.

As it was the PRINT media was not bad -- the ratings chasing cable media was not helpful.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
8. no one cares
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:32 PM
Oct 2020

...most everyone has seen through this ploy by now.

Trump was impeached for engaging in this.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
9. I have suggested elsewhere that he stand up to the bully...
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:32 PM
Oct 2020

Trump is fake-tough guy to the marrow. He is a classic bully and like all bullies he will collapse the second he is punched in the mouth.

Walk over towards him, tell him bluntly that made-up attacks on family is out of bounds and tell him that if he does it again, he's getting knocked the fuck out. Then feint a blow towards Trump and watch him flinch before the world. Trump is a complete coward. Make him show his ass to the world and he is finished for good.

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
29. It was shown.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 01:05 PM
Oct 2020

I can't place the venue or time, maybe a campaign rally before the 2016. Someone jumped on the platform and rushed into the wind, so to speak. Trump spun and cowered, his enforcers were also taken by surprise and reacted clumsily. Maybe someone remembers the details.

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
33. Yes, May of 16 in Ohio
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 01:19 PM
Oct 2020

At the end trump basically says it was all a set up. Either way, no one cares.

Check out this youtube clip with more reporting on his campaign. It's incredible in that he has learned nothing of tact, diplomacy, or leadership since.

https://m.




LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. Hunter isn't running for president.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:34 PM
Oct 2020

Furthermore, Hunter is an adult and can address the story about him if he wants to.
Hunter would know if he took his laptop to fix some guy in Delaware.

ScratchCat

(1,981 posts)
26. This is the only thing that slightly bothers me
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:59 PM
Oct 2020

About this story. Even though most of the media is not taking it seriously, Hunter Biden simply stating "I never took a laptop to a repair shop in Delaware" kills the story on the rest of the media that is covering it. Joe's camp saying "we checked our records and Joe never attended any such meeting" should have included a statement from Hunter about never going to a Delaware repair shop with a laptop. Its almost like Joe was hedging, and I don't know why(the stuff is clearly fake). A friend of mine opined that maybe the emails are partially real and likely edited, but they illegally acquired them and then invented the laptop story as a cover for how they got them.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
38. Since when is it illegal to take your laptop for
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 02:36 PM
Oct 2020

repair? Although, it’s totally unbelievable that someone who lives in California would leave his laptop in Delaware to be repaired or whatever

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
11. uhm who cares if the Q are "encouraged"?
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:34 PM
Oct 2020

None of them are voting for Biden anyway and the story is not gaining any traction outside the foxnews Q-verse. There's no reason to address the nonsense that just will force mainstream media to cover it. Trump is frustrated because they are mostly ignoring the bullshit, why give it traction? The difference between this and the bullshit email story is that mainstream sources couldn't shut up about that one.

Mad Lib

(86 posts)
12. If brought up at the debate....
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:37 PM
Oct 2020

Biden should use it as an opportunity discuss Trump's fetish for Russian disinformation and election interference. Just trace the source of all these bogus accusations. As I believe Nancy said, "all roads lead back to Putin." Pound that thought right through all the BS.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
18. And Trump's Chinese bank account.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:42 PM
Oct 2020

I actually think that Biden's story is a Chinese operation, not Russian.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
30. Bring up the nepotism
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 01:06 PM
Oct 2020

Say that children should not be part of any administration and they then hammer Ivanka’s china deals, Jared’s failure to pass a security clearance and beavis and butthead being laughing stocks.

But I agree that outside a response in the debate it doesn’t deserve a response.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
13. I'm cool if he uses the explanation as a way to show himself as a loving parent.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:39 PM
Oct 2020

That worked well last time, so I'm good if he doesn't again, but I don't think he needs to waste his time on what is just a nonsensical accusation.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
15. I don't know...
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:40 PM
Oct 2020

We all know it's from the 2016 playbook almost to the date of release and it's utter BS. But then we also experienced Comey's October surprise. If Barr were to announce that he's investigating the Bidens, it would be totally specious. But remember how much it cost us. We all knew it was bogus, but it totally contributed to HRC's loss.

PTSD from 2016.

I hope his team has a ready point-by-point rebuttal, complete with receipts.

themaguffin

(3,826 posts)
16. I don't know what he should do, but he should have a quick, witty response to move on and not
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:40 PM
Oct 2020

hem and hall over it.

dware

(12,363 posts)
17. No, he shouldn't.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:41 PM
Oct 2020

Why give any credence to this Russian dis-information?

The Biden campaign knows what they're doing.

dware

(12,363 posts)
22. This ain't 2016, and our candidate isn't HRC,
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:54 PM
Oct 2020

it's Biden/Harris, and I fully trust them to have looked at the whole picture and concluded that giving any credence to obvious Russian interference would be foolish.

Turin_C3PO

(13,964 posts)
23. This story is getting no traction.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:55 PM
Oct 2020

It's a different issue. No one outside of right wing echo chambers is treating this as a real issue.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
34. That concerned Hillary herself and Comey was at the time
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 01:46 PM
Oct 2020

a well-regarded government figure in the Obama administration. Worlds of credibility and relevance away from Hunter Biden emails.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
19. Provide oxygen to a non-story is foolish.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:43 PM
Oct 2020

I mean Fox News didn't even want the story because it is a dead fish.

clutterbox1830

(395 posts)
20. No. This is a bogus story that only Fox News is talking about.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:45 PM
Oct 2020

No other networks are really covering it since they know it is false.

It will only bring more attention to it and force other networks to debate on it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
24. FOX News is all in on this story
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:56 PM
Oct 2020

I think Joe should have a statement ready, but keep focused on campaigning.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. Seven days ago, Joe Biden denied the story as "Russian disinformation"
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:57 PM
Oct 2020

Does he need to come out every other day and say that? Should he continue to give this nonsense oxygen in hopes that it will suffocate?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. They will say "His denial just proves that it's true". There's no cure-all strategy...
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 01:07 PM
Oct 2020

They will say "His denial just proves that it's true". There's no cure-all strategy that will work with those idiots. These are the same people who believe that JFK, Jr. is still alive and will replace Pence as Trumps VP running mate.

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
39. Let them run with this nonsense. If it's not this, they will just attack with something else.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:10 PM
Oct 2020

Next Joe will have to deny he beats his wife. Responding to their bullshit would be a never ending job.

Alhena

(3,030 posts)
40. If Biden has a troubled son, which it sounds like he does
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:16 PM
Oct 2020

it has nothing to do with this campaign. I mean, it's admitted that Hunter has had a crack addiction at age 50, and crack addicts aren't known for their good judgment.

So I'm not sure whether it's true or not, but, at any rate, Hunter isn't running for anything.

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