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Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 01:10 PM Oct 2020

MUST SEE TWEET FOR ALL WHO FEAR TRUMP WILL "STEAL" THE ELECTION:

This is what I’ve been saying for months- Joe’s team is on top of this:


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600+ lawyers, 1000’s of volunteers.

(Sorry about the all caps title, but I wanted to get the attention of all the “talk me down” posters here)
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MUST SEE TWEET FOR ALL WHO FEAR TRUMP WILL "STEAL" THE ELECTION: (Original Post) Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 OP
Yep. Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #1
Yup, as posted elsewhere, the Trump campaign's own lawyers donated $90k to Biden, $50 to Trump nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #6
if that isn't a hearty FU, I don't know what is:) uriel1972 Oct 2020 #42
Yup, This is Trump's Guy in Charge of Stealing the Election: Skraxx Oct 2020 #16
Not only that DownriverDem Oct 2020 #49
god I hope this guy is right... nt mitch96 Oct 2020 #2
You're on it once again!! I saw that on twitter and really felt relieved Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #3
I'm actually volunteering on Ohio Voter Protection Hotline as we speak. we can do it Oct 2020 #4
Are you on the Trump-supporter printer who is delaying Sogo Oct 2020 #12
That's the thing. There are so many ways people as crooked as Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2020 #38
Good for you! SergeStorms Oct 2020 #15
Trump keeps sabotaging himself kurtcagle Oct 2020 #5
All caps is fine by me. Didn't even notice. demigoddess Oct 2020 #7
Hearing this made my day!... Illumination Oct 2020 #8
Mine too! Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #9
And mine! calimary Oct 2020 #26
I hope that includes emachine hacking from Russia, China, wherever judesedit Oct 2020 #10
No evidence to support vote switching, esp. w/large paper trail of absentees. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #18
Trump talks to Putie and he wouldn't be freaking about "the Ballots" if hacking was assured. Ligyron Oct 2020 #28
I hope Mr. Bauer hasn't forgotten... SergeStorms Oct 2020 #11
Bauer knows Federal agents don't want to go to jail or get shot by state police Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #20
While that's great at all, what good do 600 Marius25 Oct 2020 #13
SCOTUS has no jurisdiction over the initial counting of ballots, only process & rights issues Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #21
What about ballot stuffing? Russians have the names of voters and this is a mail-in election. ffr Oct 2020 #14
Signatures on mail in ballots volstork Oct 2020 #17
I believe those are stored on those hacked machines as well. ffr Oct 2020 #23
Highly unlikely Russians can successfully forge unique bar codes for ballots. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #22
They only have to change the totals. 58Sunliner Oct 2020 #44
That would be soooooo obvious... reACTIONary Oct 2020 #47
I have to say I have heard all of this before. I'm not predicting. Ford_Prefect Oct 2020 #19
Biden's campaign appears to be the best prepared campaign in history. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #24
Well, they're a LOT better on rapid response. calimary Oct 2020 #27
I will not relax until the electoral college certifies NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #32
Agreed. 58Sunliner Oct 2020 #46
Thanks, I needed that. 2naSalit Oct 2020 #25
I subscribed to Showtime for The Circus MontanaMama Oct 2020 #29
"HE WILL FAIL" seta1950 Oct 2020 #30
I mean, at minimum that is what I expect NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #31
K&R Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #33
K&R for the reassurance. Thanks for this! nt crickets Oct 2020 #34
There are two separate issues. PTWB Oct 2020 #35
Hoping he's right and bookmarking for later reference. Crunchy Frog Oct 2020 #36
K&R smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #37
Rt!!! TY! Cha Oct 2020 #39
"We are not appealing to him to mind his manners." niyad Oct 2020 #40
The judges who will rule edhopper Oct 2020 #41
It's very likely judges won't be ruling on anything Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #43
This is the hope edhopper Oct 2020 #45
This was reassuring. Especially the fact that Biden and Harris are taking PatrickforO Oct 2020 #48
These doom and gloom stories about 'stealing' the election etc. is exactly that, fabricated fantasy SWBTATTReg Oct 2020 #50

Turin_C3PO

(13,991 posts)
1. Yep.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 01:13 PM
Oct 2020

Bottom line is that Trump and his team aren't competent enough to steal an election. They're the biggest bunch of buffoons I've ever seen. Voter suppression is a real thing but Bidens going to win by at least 6 points, maybe even 10.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
38. That's the thing. There are so many ways people as crooked as
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 06:02 PM
Oct 2020

today's Rs can steal an election. They have a total disregard for truth & justice. No norm or rule they can thwart will stop them.

We need to get every possible voter for Biden's ballot submitted and do everything we can to make sure those votes count. Hopefully that will be enough.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
15. Good for you!
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 02:55 PM
Oct 2020

Thank you, and good luck. Right now, and through the election, you and your cohorts are just as important as any fighting force defending the United States of America. These bastards want to destroy the country from within using the "law" as their weapon. I hope all our worrying is for naught. Thanks again!

kurtcagle

(1,603 posts)
5. Trump keeps sabotaging himself
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 01:36 PM
Oct 2020

There's no operational security when your candidate is the one spilling your secrets, and the whole, vast infrastructure that the GOP had been planning to bring to bear in what amounts to a coup d'etat is compromised. In 2000, the Dems were caught flat-footed in Florida. Now, they are ready, and it's going to be much harder to throw this election into the courts.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
28. Trump talks to Putie and he wouldn't be freaking about "the Ballots" if hacking was assured.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:26 PM
Oct 2020

That tool would be told to keep his trap shut or else ... and he'd do it too.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
11. I hope Mr. Bauer hasn't forgotten...
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 02:46 PM
Oct 2020

about Bill Barr, Trump's Roy Cohn in the Justice Department? As much as I hate the SOB, he's still the Attorney General, and that carries a lot of weight with it, weight that Mr. Bauer doesn't have.

I certainly hope he's correct in his assumption that there will be a smooth transition of power.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
20. Bauer knows Federal agents don't want to go to jail or get shot by state police
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:05 PM
Oct 2020

Barr has been MIA for almost two weeks.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
13. While that's great at all, what good do 600
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 02:47 PM
Oct 2020

lawyers do if the new corrupt right-wing Supreme Court has the final say?

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
21. SCOTUS has no jurisdiction over the initial counting of ballots, only process & rights issues
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:10 PM
Oct 2020

For recounts. Bush v Gore was an equal protection dispute over recount procedures, not an initial count of ballots.

Unless Trump takes FL, and Biden’s margin in each of the Rust Belt States is less than 0.5% (current 538 Avg. is Biden +6-8%), SCOTUS won’t have a role, and only after state courts weigh in.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
14. What about ballot stuffing? Russians have the names of voters and this is a mail-in election.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 02:50 PM
Oct 2020

How many counterfeit ballots can they fudge up the system with? I wouldn't put it past them nor tRump in his desperate attempt to fulfill his loan obligations coming due.

volstork

(5,401 posts)
17. Signatures on mail in ballots
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:02 PM
Oct 2020

have to match those on the voter rolls. If they do not, the ballot is not valid.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
23. I believe those are stored on those hacked machines as well.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:13 PM
Oct 2020

I thought of that too. A good question for a journalist to investigate.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
47. That would be soooooo obvious...
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:53 AM
Oct 2020

... and easy to correct. There would be massive numbers of people "voting twice" and it would not be hard to determine the fakes once the problem was recognized.

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
19. I have to say I have heard all of this before. I'm not predicting.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:04 PM
Oct 2020

I have heard how the DNC had lawyers to protect the vote and then they never showed up in North Carolina.
I have heard that the militia warriors will face opposition and then I saw what happened to the Bundy gang, who are on the road as we speak.
I have seen the faces of my neighbors in Montana and the flags flying from the tailgates, up and down the valley with the gun racks loaded and the Full Camo on display. I do not doubt they are sincere and ready to react.

Whatever legal truths the guy in the video believes will stand on the day it will NOT be pretty and it may get very ugly.
Trump and the GOP may be disorganized criminals but they remain capable of more than minor mischief. I agree that Trump hasn't the power he claims. Barr and others seem able to bend enough of what's happened up to now to make the outcome difficult.

I'll believe it when it happens.

I have seen too often the promises evaporate or turn out to be much less effective than required. They refused to believe the warnings in 2000 and ever since they have denied it happened. I think they may be underestimating the Russian factor still.

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
29. I subscribed to Showtime for The Circus
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:30 PM
Oct 2020

and for the Comey rule. This particular episode of The Circus was excellent. I felt relief after watching it.

 

NorthOf270

(290 posts)
31. I mean, at minimum that is what I expect
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 03:51 PM
Oct 2020

Unfortunately, "But he CAN'T DO THAT!" has become a slogan for the last 4 years.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
35. There are two separate issues.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 04:37 PM
Oct 2020

Trump successfully stealing the election despite a convincing electoral win for Biden seems... unlikely.

Trump causing massive civil unrest by inciting violence amongst his most fervent supporters by denouncing the results of the election as illegitimate seems far more likely.

Do you think Trump is likely to tweet, “Congrats Joe you fought hard. I concede” or “RIGGED. DEEP STATE COUP. RESIST.”

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
43. It's very likely judges won't be ruling on anything
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:36 AM
Oct 2020

If the initial count shows a clear Biden win, with no recourse via recounts, no court would have any jurisdiction.

Secretaries of State would certify the results, governors would appoint slates of electors, and Biden would become president. The courts would have no role or authority.

Prove me wrong.

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
45. This is the hope
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:53 AM
Oct 2020

but IF Trump is able to move the decisions about vote counting to the Courts, the law will not matter. As we already see happening with rulings in places like Texas, Florida and Alabama.

A lot of this depends on mail in ballots vs votes at the polls.

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
48. This was reassuring. Especially the fact that Biden and Harris are taking
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 12:00 PM
Oct 2020

this so seriously, as they should.

But...he really needs to take a clipper with a #1 attachment to those eyebrows. I just had a hard time getting beyond that.

Seriously, though, this seems like the right guy to be heading this up.

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
50. These doom and gloom stories about 'stealing' the election etc. is exactly that, fabricated fantasy
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 12:53 PM
Oct 2020

stories out of nowhere, and propagated by worrywarts who literally sit around, worrying about anything and everything, and obsess endlessly about this or that, that the election is going to be stolen, etc. Get away from me. I don't want to participate in your fantasies of doom and gloom...and I suspect that the majority of people feel the same way I do.

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